So was this an April Fool story?

Started by Unicorn, April 01, 2014, 09:58:58 PM

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nealeffendi

The cup and story are both real.
But it is one of 200 cups that are claimed to be the cup of the Last Supper.
Does anyone think Christ would have used such a cup? He was a carpenter and rejected wealth so the real cup would have been very modest.

Unicorn

Ah Nealeffendi ..... so you have watched the Last Crusade!

(If you haven't, that was the choice Jones had to make ..... selecting it from many others, the storyline is basically what you just said).


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Sapyx

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='45476' dateline='1396353547'The cup and story are both real.
But it is one of 200 cups that are claimed to be the cup of the Last Supper.
Does anyone think Christ would have used such a cup? He was a carpenter and rejected wealth so the real cup would have been very modest.

If you read the Bible story, the Last Supper (where the Cup was used) was held at Passover in a borrowed upper room, presumably with borrowed Passover utensils and equipment. It would not have belonged to Jesus or any of the other disciples.

From what we know of Jewish Passover traditions and rituals of the first century, nobody used ornate or elaborate silver cups back then (unlike today) - everybody used four fairly plain pottery cups in the ceremony, shaped rather like modern cereal bowls, or perhaps more like Chinese noodle bowls. Nobody at the time would have thought, "We should remember which cup Jesus was holding when he said that and try to keep that cup, maybe it's special or magical somehow". The early disciples had enough trouble simply remembering Jesus' words, they certainly had a lot more to worry about than identifying and perpetuating holy relics.

So what would have happened to the original cup or, rather, set of cups? Presumably they would have been washed and re-used by that house at various Passovers after being held by Jesus, until eventually they were lost and/or broken. Perhaps they were simply thrown out in the trash when one of the cups broke and the owner of the house went and bought a new matching set.
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Fulvio

Quote from: 'Sapyx' pid='45480' dateline='1396359106'Perhaps they were simply thrown out in the trash when one of the cups broke and the owner of the house went and bought a new matching set.

Heh, I like how scientific evidence proves its the right one... by pinning it down to a 300-year period!

Gotta wonder how many cups (bowls, etc) of various ilk were made in that time.. millions, certainly.

But for a true believer, there is never any doubt at all, is there? :dodgy:
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markn

Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='45484' dateline='1396386286'Heh, I like how scientific evidence proves its the right one... by pinning it down to a 300-year period!

Gotta wonder how many cups (bowls, etc) of various ilk were made in that time.. millions, certainly.

No, no.  There was only one cup extant in the entire world.  And that was it.
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