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Title: Any one want some 1.5x1.5 holders?
Post by: JeffH on April 22, 2013, 05:08:56 PM
I am running low on some sizes of 1½" x 1½" coin holders and they seem to be no longer available in Australia. I think I bought up all the remaining stock of the only dealer that had some a while back.

I like these for smaller coins as you can put them in 30 pocket album pages -50% more coins in an album without overloading it.
Biggest size is 30.5mm (at least with the ones I have now) which is big enough for florins and 20¢ coins [but not much room on the edge to staple].

Anyway, I am thinking of ordering a batch from the US. If you are interested in getting some, let me know and I will advise available sizes and likely costs.

Of course, if you know of a source for these locally; please tell me.

Jeff
PS. They are not made in sizes for Australian coins but enough size increments that a reasonable fit is available for any coin. For example; Closest size to our $1 coin (25mm) is 27.5mm which gives only 1.25mm (less than 1/16") space around the coin.
Title: RE: Any one want some 1.5x1.5 holders?
Post by: Fulvio on April 23, 2013, 09:22:08 AM
Got a pic and some pricing? I bought a ton of 2x2's direct from the distributor a few years back, and the bulk pricing was pretty good as I recall.
Title: RE: Any one want some 1.5x1.5 holders?
Post by: JeffH on April 23, 2013, 10:58:37 AM
I am still researching prices -postage tends to be the killer.
Looked at Wizard (comes recommended) but their postage charge is, frankly, ridiculous. http://Wizard Coin Supply (http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/) Don't want to pay 50¢+ per holder.
Now looking at some of the eBay sellers in US. Their prices may look higher but postage charges are more realistic. Cost is about 20¢ each but a big order should reduce that.
Some possibles;
•http://stores.ebay.com.au/Crews-General-Merchandise/Coin-Holders-/_i.html?_fsub=1480566012&_sid=52420192&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322
•http://stores.ebay.com.au/Pinnacle-Coin-and-Currency/1-5x1-5-Coin-Holders-Boxes-/_i.html?_fsub=425140619&_sid=1031001709&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

Recommendations for suitable sources would be appreciated. Nancy gave me one some time ago but I can't find in anymore.

Jeff
Title: RE: Any one want some 1.5x1.5 holders?
Post by: robbiegal on April 23, 2013, 11:07:40 AM
are these prices any good?
http://www.air-tites.com/Cardboard_2x2_Coin_Holders.htm#.UXXlhuB--Uk
Title: RE: Any one want some 1.5x1.5 holders?
Post by: Nevol on April 23, 2013, 12:48:04 PM
I bought mine from:
http://www.valleycoin.com/index.php?cPath=9_406_734_451

I bought 3000 holders all up, 800 were 2x2's, the rest were 1½ x 1½.
The 2x2's cost $31.73, the 1½ x 1½ were $99.00, Freight to Aust for the lot was $39.95.

I can't remember how much I saved, but I know it was cheaper to get them from the US than to buy 3000 2x2's, as the 1½ x 1½ aren't available in Australia, plus there was a further saving from being able to put 30 on a page instead of 20.

Their prices are still the same as they were in 2009, and those prices are in US$, so even less when converted.  

It might be time for me to see if I need any more, but I think if I do, I might just order them myself, as there would only be one lot of postage to pay then.
Title: RE: Any one want some 1.5x1.5 holders?
Post by: Australian coin on April 23, 2013, 01:09:23 PM
hmm interesting to know, I usually buy lighthouse boxes of 100, they cost anywhere from $10 - $15 a box, so you know you spend 10 - 15c a piece, but I only get them when I go to the coin fair once a year, and surprisingly I have run out of a few sizes, I think its the $1 size, cos you can substitute putting shillings in the same size, I think there are 4 or 5 sizes I buy that can cover most coins, I don't mind if they have a gap around them in the 2x2, so I have to hold on for a few more weeks till I can get back into putting coins away.
Title: RE: Any one want some 1.5x1.5 holders?
Post by: trout on April 23, 2013, 01:41:48 PM
I always use lighthouse self adhesive2x2  flips simply because they are easy to use and look sooooo much better than the staple types :ok:
These cost me about $25 per 100 landed .
If any of the dealers on the site can do better than $25 per 100 let me know and I will buy from here :good:
Might as well keep the money "In the Family" :dance2:
Title: RE: Any one want some 1.5x1.5 holders?
Post by: JeffH on April 23, 2013, 03:00:03 PM
Thanks Robbie and Nancy. I recognised the name of Nancy's suggestion as soon as I saw it.
I have rejected the eBay sellers -the prices aren't as good as the dealers.
I checked posted price for 10 bundles of 100 1.5x1.5, quarter size holders posted to Australia;
•Air-Tites is US$62.85 first class mail and $83.25 priority (includes tracking)
•Wizard is $78.43 priority [does not offer regular mail service]
•Valley coins is a little more expensive and can't get shipping cost without completing an order form. So, I have sent an enquiry.

2x2 holders are actually cheaper from all sellers.

So, that gives a price of around 6¢ to 8¢ per holder, delivered to Australia. Maybe a little less with a larger order. That's about half price of buying 2x2s locally.
Looks like it could be worth doing.

Jeff
Title: RE: Any one want some 1.5x1.5 holders?
Post by: robbiegal on April 23, 2013, 03:54:45 PM
if the aussie dollar is going well then it can work out a bit less
but then you get the various international charges for the currency change over bizzo

Quote from: 'trout' pid='12800' dateline='1366690308'I always use lighthouse self adhesive2x2  flips simply because they are easy to use and look sooooo much better than the staple types :ok:
These cost me about $25 per 100 landed .
If any of the dealers on the site can do better than $25 per 100 let me know and I will buy from here :good:
Might as well keep the money "In the Family" :dance2:

I have just finished removing about 800 coins from my numis albums
because of the talk of PVC ruining them (in Accum's thread). My husband thinks i'm nuts!

now I have to figure out where to put them!! I have just bagged most into cellophane bags with dates etc. as it was all getting a bit too much trying to do the lot all at once

Incidentally, I removed several coins that look as good as when I put them into the sleeves,  over 5 years ago or longer  i.e. full lustre etc
so I dunno about the talk of the PVC sleeve ruining the coins?

but I do know that I have several perfect silver coins that have been ruined by adhesive  2x2's as the coin has slipped into the sealer part
and they are now wreaked with black sooty marks

I wouldn't trust the adhesive holders with your best coins Trout
the glue doesn't hold up for a long time

I bought a 'gem' 1964 m penny recently in a Jaggard's 2x2 - same thing, the coin has slipped into the glued section, so the dealer sold the  coin to me for $10 against a holder that has $30 on it
Title: RE: Any one want some 1.5x1.5 holders?
Post by: enworb on April 23, 2013, 04:24:48 PM
Theres a genuine 1930 penny in the window of 'monetarium' in Adelaide which has slipped down into the holder as well. I cringe each time i see it. Im amazed they havent fixed it seeing as its been like it for a while now.
Title: RE: Any one want some 1.5x1.5 holders?
Post by: trout on April 23, 2013, 04:31:26 PM
QuoteI wouldn't trust the adhesive holders with your best coins Trout
 the glue doesn't hold up for a long time

I store ALL my albums flat, there is NO danger of the coins "Slipping down" that way :ok: :dance2:
Title: RE: Any one want some 1.5x1.5 holders?
Post by: Fulvio on April 23, 2013, 04:58:11 PM
I bought my 2x2's in bulk lots of 1,000 and from memory the price was single digits. I may have to go for a drive and see what I can renegotiate now.

As for pages, I only use Ultra-Pro pages which are archival quality. I do cheat however. Since I have boxes of 9-pocket card pages, I put two coins per pocket in. Two 2x2's fit snugly into a bank coin bag, which folds neatly into a package that slips right in. This works a treat for bulk items, like say double-bars, 3.5 claws, etc. And it keeps the mounts tight so they don't open up.

The only fly in the ointment is that the Australian Ultra-Pro Distributor is an arsehole. I worked for him, and he stole $30,000 from me. So once I run out, I won't be buying any more locally, for sure.
Title: RE: Any one want some 1.5x1.5 holders?
Post by: robbiegal on April 23, 2013, 06:02:33 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='12807' dateline='1366700486'
QuoteI wouldn't trust the adhesive holders with your best coins Trout
 the glue doesn't hold up for a long time

I store ALL my albums flat, there is NO danger of the coins "Slipping down" that way :ok: :dance2:

i'm wondering if that is why my numis albums haven't done any damage to my coins
cause I store mine upright, so the pages are sort of lose and not squashed on one another
maybe, anyways, I did wonder about that

don't happen t be after about 700 hundred or so old pennies by any chance?? ha ha
all bagged up nice and neat!!

Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='12812' dateline='1366702091'I bought my 2x2's in bulk lots of 1,000 and from memory the price was single digits. I may have to go for a drive and see what I can renegotiate now.

As for pages, I only use Ultra-Pro pages which are archival quality. I do cheat however. Since I have boxes of 9-pocket card pages, I put two coins per pocket in. Two 2x2's fit snugly into a bank coin bag, which folds neatly into a package that slips right in. This works a treat for bulk items, like say double-bars, 3.5 claws, etc. And it keeps the mounts tight so they don't open up.

The only fly in the ointment is that the Australian Ultra-Pro Distributor is an arsehole. I worked for him, and he stole $30,000 from me. So once I run out, I won't be buying any more locally, for sure.

fluvio
that sounds like it could be a long story
and sadly in the coin business there are a few too many of them
Title: RE: Any one want some 1.5x1.5 holders?
Post by: Fulvio on April 24, 2013, 01:25:28 PM
Yeah mate, a long story that took a very long year to write, and maybe longer to tell. No happy ending either. :(