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Numismatic Discussion => Coin Chit Chat => Topic started by: echidna on April 22, 2013, 01:30:24 PM

Title: Is it legal to reuse un-cancelled stamps ?
Post by: echidna on April 22, 2013, 01:30:24 PM
Sometimes I get a package with postage stamps not cancelled by Australia Post.
Another one came today with $17 worth.
Anyone know if it is legal to reuse them ?
Title: RE: Is it legal to reuse un-cancelled stamps ?
Post by: stevo1962 on April 22, 2013, 01:35:27 PM
Use them I always do,if they're too stupid to cancel them then they must
want you to re use them
Title: RE: Is it legal to reuse un-cancelled stamps ?
Post by: robbiegal on April 22, 2013, 01:37:15 PM
I never do it  anytime time, since I was a kid
that's why I haven't been arrested  ....... yet

ha ha
Title: RE: Is it legal to reuse un-cancelled stamps ?
Post by: triplewitch on April 22, 2013, 01:49:42 PM
It's a federal crime in the US to reuse an un-cancelled stamp.-John
Title: RE: Is it legal to reuse un-cancelled stamps ?
Post by: stevo1962 on April 22, 2013, 02:01:19 PM
Would be hard to detect if you can get them off clean
Title: RE: Is it legal to reuse un-cancelled stamps ?
Post by: Goldseeker on April 22, 2013, 02:03:51 PM
Tear off the paper containing the stamps.   Soak in cold water.   Peel off.   Air dry the stamps and use a glue stick to use on next leter.

Saves one a lot of postage costs.

I have been doing it for a long time and not arrested yet...............
Title: RE: Is it legal to reuse un-cancelled stamps ?
Post by: trout on April 22, 2013, 02:08:43 PM
WOOHOO go for it :good:
Nice to think someone is getting back at the rip off post office :dance2:
Title: RE: Is it legal to reuse un-cancelled stamps ?
Post by: Nevol on April 22, 2013, 02:25:22 PM
There was (still is) a particular seller in Aust who I believe was investigated several years ago by Aust Post for reusing used but un-cancelled stamps. I don't know if he was ever prosecuted though.  

He was always blaming AP for holding up his mail, and items were taking 6 - 7 weeks to get delivered.  AP were apparently holding his outgoing mail as evidence, so no wonder it was slow to arrive.  

 Section 471.5 of the Criminal Code Act (1995) (Commonwealth) states that "A person is guilty of an offence if the person dishonestly uses for postal services a postage stamp that has been previously used for postal services". A person found guilty of such an offence can face a maximum penalty of imprisonment for 12 months".

I thought I remembered reading somewhere that the fine for re-using stamps may be up to $20000, but can't remember where it was.

I have a feeling that some members here may have dealt with this seller who has also had several ID changes.
Title: RE: Is it legal to reuse un-cancelled stamps ?
Post by: robbiegal on April 22, 2013, 02:50:01 PM
OMG :@
I'm goanna change my post

I never knew
It's a bit of a tradition in my family

'waste not, want not'

and my father was a PMG when I was a little tyke!!


Edit done
ha ha


Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='12692' dateline='1366606522'There was (still is) a particular seller in Aust who I believe was investigated several years ago by Aust Post for reusing used but un-cancelled stamps. I don't know if he was ever prosecuted though.  

He was always blaming AP for holding up his mail, and items were taking 6 - 7 weeks to get delivered.  AP were apparently holding his outgoing mail as evidence, so no wonder it was slow to arrive.  

 Section 471.5 of the Criminal Code Act (1995) (Commonwealth) states that "A person is guilty of an offence if the person dishonestly uses for postal services a postage stamp that has been previously used for postal services". A person found guilty of such an offence can face a maximum penalty of imprisonment for 12 months".

I thought I remembered reading somewhere that the fine for re-using stamps may be up to $20000, but can't remember where it was.

I have a feeling that some members here may have dealt with this seller who has also had several ID changes.

there are a few old fellows here in the ACT
and they raise money for a charity ( I won't name it here)
anyways, they go to a heck of a lot of businesses each month and collect the unused stamps that the admin staff snip off and put aside for them to collect

they then take them home, ease the stamp/s from it's envelope fixture
re-secure the stamps somehow for future use
then they re-sell the stamps to the businesses for 50% less than retail
all profit goes back to the charity

these guys have been doing this re-cycling for years
and they told me that the same charity does it all over Australia
it's more blokely then knitting tea cosies for fund raising

I wonder of that seller was manipulating cancelled stamps? that would be very naughty
Title: RE: Is it legal to reuse un-cancelled stamps ?
Post by: Triggersmob on April 22, 2013, 06:33:39 PM
Over in the Stamp Community Forum we call them glue stick stamps.
I have used them in the past, but I don't think it is legal.
To prosecute you, they have to prove that the stamps were used previously,
and that would be difficult without a cancellation. you could tell them that you
new stamps got all wet. Watch out for spray on cancels though, they are harder to see.
Title: RE: Is it legal to reuse un-cancelled stamps ?
Post by: Fulvio on April 23, 2013, 07:53:35 AM
Way back when I was trying for the Post Office licence, I became an agent for them. There was no money in it at all, it was just a holding tactic. One fine day an elderly gentleman walked in and offered me stamps at 25% off. The story was that since Australia Post stopped buying back stamps, companies would be stuck with them, and would write them off and donate them to a charity he was involved with. They used a sheltered workshop to attach these stamps to labels, along with "make-up" stamps to bring them up to current postage rates. Some were "glue stick stamps", as they had previously been attached to envelopes, but not mailed out.

I ran this past the Postmaster the next time I was picking up stock, and he had no problem with it. There was no discussion by anyone as to whether any might have previously gone through the system, but there was certainly no evidence of cancellation on any of them, visible or UV. Over the next three or so years, we had absolutely no problems of any sort, and went through many, many thousands of them.

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Oh, and the Post Office did eventually come to town, sadly a few years after the bank pulled the pin on me and it all became moot. The guy who got it paid peanuts and is now raking in cash by the truckload. And just to rub salt in, I see there's a new Coles being built directly opposite my old shop... *Cry*