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Title: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fr45h3R on April 16, 2013, 05:58:50 PM
I've seen a number of coins recently where writing on the 2x2 puts aside any doubt of the coins authenticity and value.

Here is a few to start off! Let's keep it going if people find any good ones.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1930-PENNY-hole-has-been-made-at-the-top-of-this-coin-/140956819090?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item20d1ae5e92

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1951-Australian-Comm-Florin-Silver-Coin-chUNC-Already-Sold-for-145-in-Store-/121093426122?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item1c31bb0bca
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on April 16, 2013, 06:31:42 PM
"Don't buy fake, worn, damaged, tarnished or error coins" Avoid other sellers

What a wanker,the last 2 things in this sentence really pissed me off,i'm going to add this ID to my do not buy from list.:@:ireful:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: purplepennyhunter on April 16, 2013, 06:32:06 PM
Sure it has to be real because the 2x2 says so!
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: bellyflorin on April 16, 2013, 06:38:58 PM
Yes it must be true , as it is written so :dodgy: or just add a little note with coin

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1935-Rzeczpospolita-Polska-10-Zlotych-Silver-Coin-ITEM-564-NO-RESERVE-/380619714922?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item589eb3f16a
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fr45h3R on April 16, 2013, 06:40:13 PM
Quote from: 'accumulator' pid='12186' dateline='1366102902'"Don't buy fake, worn, damaged, tarnished or error coins" Avoid other sellers

What a wanker,the last 2 things in this sentence really pissed me off,i'm going to add this ID to my do not buy from list.:@:ireful:

Any grades mentioned are of a of a professional/personal:ok: opinion and before bidding on any auction you should always judge and grade yourself.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: keldaw on April 16, 2013, 07:29:04 PM
I do rob , and I am giving this one a big miss ..     ,, kel ,,
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: trout on April 16, 2013, 08:21:39 PM
It is absolute ---- heads like this that make it SO hard for the genuine sellers :dash1:
Especially the second link where the seller had absolutely NO IDEA about grading and the idiotic spiel about "Don't buy from other sellers and beware of error coins".
Quite frankly people like this are simply an embarrassment to dinkum sellers :dodgy:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on April 16, 2013, 09:40:00 PM
Where the hell does this bloke come up with a CV for this coin ?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/THREEPENCE-1914-AU-BROAD-STRIKE-ERROR-CV-1800-/221215058651?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item338171eadb&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1288

THREEPENCE 1914 AU+ BROAD STRIKE ERROR CV $1800++
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: trout on April 16, 2013, 09:46:05 PM
Quote from: 'accumulator' pid='12207' dateline='1366114200'Where the hell does this bloke come up with a CV for this coin ?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/THREEPENCE-1914-AU-BROAD-STRIKE-ERROR-CV-1800-/221215058651?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item338171eadb&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1288

THREEPENCE 1914 AU+ BROAD STRIKE ERROR CV $1800++

HeHeHe The seller is Peter Wallace, a Known ratbag to most of us :dodgy:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: keldaw on April 17, 2013, 06:33:43 AM
I have just sent him a message about , why is the postage  $ 10.00 standard post for this coin ?? sorry but the postage cost for this coin is stopping me from bidding on your coin .  ,, kel ,,


 now waiting for an answer ..
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: robbiegal on April 18, 2013, 07:27:26 PM
a lot of sellers have around $10 now for postage these days
esp. the sellers who move a lot of stock
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Goldseeker on April 18, 2013, 09:03:56 PM
yes, its the only way they can add to their profits........
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fr45h3R on May 06, 2013, 08:48:36 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/RARER-THAN-MULE-MINT-ERROR-2008-AUSTRALIAN-FIFTY-CENTS-COLLECTOR-ERROR-/200922123841?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item2ec7e44e41
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Nevol on May 06, 2013, 09:20:00 PM
Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='13862' dateline='1367839116'http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/RARER-THAN-MULE-MINT-ERROR-2008-AUSTRALIAN-FIFTY-CENTS-COLLECTOR-ERROR-/200922123841?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item2ec7e44e41
Looks like PMD to me.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on May 06, 2013, 09:35:04 PM
Ah Yes, it is indeed PMD, Remember they came on CCF asking about it & we all told them it is definite PMD but they turned around & put it straight on ebay as a real error,bundaberg residents they were.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Nevol on May 06, 2013, 09:38:21 PM
I don't remember the coin from CCF, but I know who you mean. There were at least 2 of the family selling coins on Ebay with a possible third one a little way from Bundy.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: ausjack on May 06, 2013, 09:50:03 PM
are some of those pic's taken while the coin is still in the vice :scratch_one-s_head:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on May 06, 2013, 10:14:37 PM
nothing would surprise me AJ, yeah the main one was s.....w..... , they have a partial collar 5 cent up for $450 LOLOL.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fulvio on May 06, 2013, 11:57:43 PM
Dropped him a polite question. Lets see how he responds. :)
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: enworb on May 07, 2013, 12:16:08 AM
Does larena ring a bell nevol?
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Nevol on May 07, 2013, 08:18:52 AM
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='13886' dateline='1367851568'Does larena ring a bell nevol?
Sure does! From memory her Ebay stuff was legit and I did buy from her a couple times, but I'm very suss about the other one, her son I think.  Some of their prices are just ridiculous!
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: lacey on May 07, 2013, 03:49:34 PM
Belly, there's a seller on quicksales who state nearly everyone of his coins are 'RARE'

I hope ppl are careful buying off him.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on May 07, 2013, 04:35:51 PM
I think this clown has a partial collar $1 on quicksale for $700 too.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: enworb on May 07, 2013, 09:00:48 PM
Speaking of larena hows this for coincidence http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=114301 just posted today. What a load of crap!!!!!
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Nevol on May 07, 2013, 09:24:25 PM
Makes me wonder if it's her son that's making them. :dodgy: :dodgy:

What are the chances of the same two related people just happening to come across two of almost the exact same so called error (crap) coins.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: enworb on May 07, 2013, 09:41:27 PM
Its listed on ebay. I saw it the other day. Think she is asking $700 or something stupid.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Nevol on May 07, 2013, 09:49:46 PM
The son has it listed for $750.00 as per the link posted by Fr45h3R:  
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/RARER-THAN-MULE-MINT-ERROR-2008-AUSTRALIAN-FIFTY-CENTS-COLLECTOR-ERROR-/200922123841?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item2ec7e44e41

And, yes, it's rare all right. 1,000,000 times rarer than rocking horse s**t!
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on May 07, 2013, 10:18:34 PM
(http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo339/appeangel07_photos/Funny%20giifs%20and%20stuff/turkey_full.jpg) (http://s389.photobucket.com/user/appeangel07_photos/media/Funny%20giifs%20and%20stuff/turkey_full.jpg.html)
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fulvio on May 08, 2013, 03:07:04 AM
I've had three replies from him so far, and am awaiting more detailed pics. *shrug*
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: markn on May 08, 2013, 08:17:02 AM
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='13952' dateline='1367928687'Its listed on ebay. I saw it the other day. Think she is asking $700 or something stupid.

Larena isn't related to someone you know is she Matt?  Someone whose first name is Shane?  They both "find" valuable things.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: enworb on May 08, 2013, 09:40:10 AM
Maybe second cousins? At least he 'finds' 'plausible' errors. These are so clearly PMD its a joke.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fr45h3R on May 12, 2013, 02:44:03 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1930-Australian-One-Penny-/261211801238?_trksid=p2047675.m1986&_trkparms=aid%3D555001%26algo%3DPW.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D29%26meid%3D7598187915637412381%26pid%3D100013%26prg%3D1013%26rk%3D5%26sd%3D251269932506%26

I'm gobsmacked. Surely no one would believe this was real ?
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on May 12, 2013, 03:06:29 PM
Aw noooooooo, thats just so so wrong !, the old " i know nothink " .
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: MattGold on May 12, 2013, 03:10:56 PM
Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='14539' dateline='1368335643'http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1930-Australian-One-Penny-/261211801238?_trksid=p2047675.m1986&_trkparms=aid%3D555001%26algo%3DPW.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D29%26meid%3D7598187915637412381%26pid%3D100013%26prg%3D1013%26rk%3D5%26sd%3D251269932506%26

I'm gobsmacked. Surely no one would believe this was real ?

I don't know too much about fake pennies but I reckon a lot of people are inclined to believe the seller as he seems to be answering everyones questions and posting them for all to see.

Matt
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on May 12, 2013, 03:28:22 PM
Well i can assure you Matt that this coin is'nt even close to being a good fake let alone genuine.
I reckon your right about the punters though, believe the tripe in the listing.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Unicorn on May 12, 2013, 03:31:01 PM
No ..... not a chinese fake again!!! :dash1::dash1::dash1:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: enworb on May 12, 2013, 04:19:08 PM
That is a shocker. I just sent the seller a message advising them it is fake.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Mister T on May 12, 2013, 04:29:49 PM
And of course it's a London die fake.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on May 12, 2013, 06:59:43 PM
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='14553' dateline='1368341348'That is a shocker. I just sent the seller a message advising them it is fake.

So did i , as soon as Rob put the link up,funny how the seller has'nt put our messages in their ad,or done anything at all, NOT.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: keldaw on May 13, 2013, 07:46:51 AM
don't worry about it guys , if any body has that much money to invest in any coin selling on ebay and then storing it away , without first having it checked out , then they are already rich anyway , and remember there are 59 bids so far , so there is a lot of rich people about ,and most likely got their money by robbing other people in the first place , so don't feel sorry for the winning bidder , he is just to rich in the first place..      ,, kel ,,

Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Nevol on May 13, 2013, 07:55:52 AM
59 Bids, but only 13 Bidders. :angel:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fr45h3R on May 13, 2013, 06:03:10 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VERY-RARE-2-CENT-COIN-/151043966651?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item232aec06bb
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Unicorn on May 13, 2013, 07:01:12 PM
Metal lathe?
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fulvio on May 14, 2013, 12:10:01 AM
"Two cent coin that has possibly been misstruck from the factory!
This is a very very rare coin!!"

That "factory" sure seems to churn them out, eh? And yeah, its super rare.. but if you want a dozen, they can certainly make to order! ;)

I'm in the wrong biz I reckon.. there's GOLD in them thar ebay's. ;)
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on May 14, 2013, 06:25:53 AM
Possibly lathe & then roughed up around the edges with a bit of sand paper or something,to hide the lathe marks.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: enworb on May 15, 2013, 05:07:18 PM
From the seller of the fake 1930.


Sorry but you are not qualified both indian and english were used 4 of indian have been authenticated by australian mint do your home work it all there .

- juliette959

WHAT A LOSER!!!!
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Mister T on May 15, 2013, 05:24:45 PM
Selling a $100,000+ coin on ebay as a 99c auction?
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on May 15, 2013, 05:24:51 PM
I copped her abuse yesterday , she did'nt know jack shit yesterday & today she an expert it seems.  LOL
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fr45h3R on May 15, 2013, 05:25:59 PM
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='14874' dateline='1368603438'From the seller of the fake 1930.


Sorry but you are not qualified both indian and english were used 4 of indian have been authenticated by australian mint do your home work it all there .

- juliette959

WHAT A LOSER!!!!

I don't understand. 4 of Indian have been authenticated?
I hope all the ones authenticated by the mint were Indian dies apart from the proof ones.

btw: What's the mintage from the chinese mint? :P

pps .. Are there people seriously interested in this coin?
The questions show a number of people wanting to view the coin. Even someone asking about shipping to Brunei ?
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: robbiegal on May 15, 2013, 07:02:27 PM
all a con

I was having a little sneaky look at the bidders and several have 'bid retractions' in their micro profile information

seems a few of the bidders have bid retraction history = shill bidding auction - in my books
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fr45h3R on May 16, 2013, 07:28:40 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1963-Y-PROOF-Penny-Only-1100-Minted-CV-1750-/151046264008?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item232b0f14c8

This one has the curse of the rare coin, preventing it to be photographed in focus.

And another.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1930-One-Penny-Australia-/161026959310?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item257df467ce
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Mister T on May 16, 2013, 08:17:34 PM
Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='15026' dateline='1368698320'And another.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1930-One-Penny-Australia-/161026959310?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item257df467ce

It's a proof and it looks like a London obverse too.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Goldseeker on May 16, 2013, 09:11:22 PM
Mister T:   Are you really stating that the above is a Proof 1930 Penny or are you joking?

If it was a fair dinkum Proof 1930 Penny, it would be worth almost $1,000,000.00.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on May 16, 2013, 09:20:20 PM
Definitely not a Proof or even real , I think MrT was just being a little sarcastic.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Nevol on May 16, 2013, 09:26:15 PM
If that's a 1930 penny, I''l eat my hat.  The date looks like 193G.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fulvio on May 17, 2013, 01:49:23 AM
There must be an idiot factory somewhere churning these people out...

Assume for a moment it were real (clearly its not). In that condition, even with the verdigris, it would have to be worth at least 30 grand.. ten times the buy it now price.

That alone should be enough to warn ANY potential bidder off, surely?
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Unicorn on May 17, 2013, 07:41:11 AM
Fr45h3R's  1930 penny above appears to have gone ta ta's.  :yahoo:

Woo hoo ..... and so appears to be the case with the ealier one (who was including all the BS comments etc). :yahoo::yahoo:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on May 17, 2013, 01:27:43 PM
yes,fantastic ! enough of us must have reported both of them,the 2nd was gone within a couple of hours.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Mister T on May 17, 2013, 07:35:42 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='15033' dateline='1368704482'Mister T:   Are you really stating that the above is a Proof 1930 Penny or are you joking?

No, sorry, I was just quoting the description where it said it was a proof.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Goldseeker on May 17, 2013, 08:39:40 PM
Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='15185' dateline='1368785142'
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='15033' dateline='1368704482'Mister T:   Are you really stating that the above is a Proof 1930 Penny or are you joking?

No, sorry, I was just quoting the description where it said it was a proof.

OK, I apologise if my comment was taken the wrong way.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Mister T on May 18, 2013, 04:30:12 PM
No, it's all good. I didn't phrase it that well.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fr45h3R on May 21, 2013, 05:08:50 PM
Ok, I think guy was one i had previously.. this time the picture is in focus
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1962-Y-PROOF-Penny-Only-1064-Minted-CV-1800-/151049118212?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item232b3aa204
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on May 21, 2013, 06:34:26 PM
:laughingneqw: so if i buff up every old penny i have,can i sell them as PROOF too ?
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Mister T on May 21, 2013, 07:57:56 PM
Quote from: 'accumulator' pid='15727' dateline='1369127066':laughingneqw: so if i buff up every old penny i have,can i sell them as PROOF too ?

Better call them impaired just to be on the safe side.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: robbiegal on June 22, 2013, 05:52:50 PM
gee wiz
sold aready
listed again
and by golly that looks like the exact same coin that was listed by another (but honest) ebay seller?
am I in the wrong thread here?
think so ....

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=171061342748

and he has already 'sold 'that  coin!!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1952-AUSTRALIAN-PENNY-GEORGIVS-VI-D-G-BR-OMN-REX-FIDEI-DEF-RETAIL-300-/171057302182?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item27d3cf4aa6


original sellers listing with original photos
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1952-SQUARE-SERIF-PENNY-UNCIRCULATED-NEVER-OFFERED-IN-THIS-GRADE-/121123508299?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item1c3386104b&nma=true&si=h6luYBA0kWeWza%252BNxRxj1fK7500%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Unicorn on June 22, 2013, 06:26:51 PM
Good spotting there Robbiegal ...... definately the same coin in all 3 ...... how odd!
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: robbiegal on June 22, 2013, 08:25:45 PM
the coins that the seller has up just all looked tooooo nice for such low feed-back
then I noticed more listings with  different pics and different styles of photography
also a coin I was watching was sold and quickly relisted
and I thought hummmm might look a little closer here
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on July 04, 2013, 11:26:07 PM
Hmmm, must be genuine hey ? the $10 they make reference to is genuine but these are just rubbish IMO.


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5-AUSTRALIAN-ERROR-POLYMER-NOTE-WITH-GHOST-WHITE-FACE-OF-QUEEN-/271233675233?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item3f26c96fe1&_uhb=1

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5-AUSTRALIAN-ERROR-POLYMER-NOTE-WITH-GHOST-WHITE-FACE-OF-QUEEN-/271233677678?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item3f26c9796e&_uhb=1

 $5 AUSTRALIAN ERROR POLYMER NOTE-QUEEN'S FACE MISSING

REFER ITEM NO 181167492333 currently listed

Here for sale is a very scarce $5 Polymer Australian Note had this for many years it appears the Queen's face looks like a white ghost excellent long term investment IN unc CONDITION!!!

Check out another seller for a $10 Polymer note already exceeded $1,000 item no 181167492333 you will see why its very rare!!!

Starting at a modest $500.00

Good luck!!!
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fulvio on July 05, 2013, 12:02:30 AM
Riiiight...

Somebody should tell him its illegal to deface currency.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: ausjack on July 05, 2013, 05:27:41 AM
only if you get caught  :mocking:
I didn't do it :blink:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fulvio on July 05, 2013, 05:47:04 PM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='20405' dateline='1372967861'I didn't do it :blink:

...Nobody saw me do it. You have no proof! :angel:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Basil on July 08, 2013, 09:16:53 PM
Anyone got a spare Mill.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AMAZINGLY-RARE-1930-Penny-London-Die/251298601640?_trksid=p2047675.m1986&_trkparms=aid%3D555003%26algo%3DPW.CAT%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D29%26meid%3D8926559301467562833%26pid%3D100013%26prg%3D1013%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D330952890049%26
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fulvio on July 08, 2013, 10:28:32 PM
Quote from: 'Basil' pid='20760' dateline='1373284013'Anyone got a spare Mill.

Yeah, right...
Its a photo of a printed page. Not at all sus...
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: robbiegal on July 09, 2013, 06:28:19 PM
wonder if they even own that Rennicks book
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fulvio on July 09, 2013, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='20831' dateline='1373360299'wonder if they even own that Rennicks book

Nup. Just a cheap chinese photocopy. ;)
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fr45h3R on August 24, 2013, 04:51:23 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Australian-2000-1-mule-coin-10ct-die-error-/111150895766?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item19e11c1296

This one puts APCGS to shame!
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Unicorn on August 24, 2013, 05:01:13 PM
:i_agree: Yep much worse.

Love the 'dye' OMG!  :laugh2:

The PCGS cert number for that one is an Australian Proof PR69 2012 50c Dragon.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fr45h3R on August 24, 2013, 05:11:10 PM
Hmmm

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/RARE-AUSTRALIAN-ERROR-MULTIBLE-STRIKES-ON-1942Y-HALFPENNY-/331000747194?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item4d112e94ba
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Robster on August 24, 2013, 05:34:34 PM
The old "stack of halfpennies" on the train tracks trick.!!! :dodgy:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fr45h3R on January 08, 2014, 08:59:57 PM
A Stolen image..
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1930-australian-penny-/261369956836?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item3cdadd09e4

And, it's graded by CGS!
I'm thinking that's China Grading Service ?
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: trout on January 08, 2014, 09:06:38 PM
Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='39142' dateline='1389176997'A Stolen image..
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1930-australian-penny-/261369956836?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item3cdadd09e4

And, it's graded by CGS!
I'm thinking that's China Grading Service ?

AWSOME
Stolen image, no pic of the obverse, who the hell is "CGS" and a feedback score of 3.
HeHe "Tell im he's dreaming" :angel:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Unicorn on January 08, 2014, 09:31:26 PM
What a shocker!
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: purplepennyhunter on January 09, 2014, 07:41:06 AM
CGS are those odd looking slabs (thin with pokey edge lugs) Mark picked up 3 of them for me a little while ago, 2 of which the farthings got removed and are at PCGS now, one I kept for reference. The seller has no clue they use a different standard again. Completely dodgy listing.
(http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/Slab%20diagram.jpg)

Googled more pics here (http://www.coinsgbforum.com/index.php?showtopic=529).
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: trout on January 09, 2014, 07:52:43 AM
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='39157' dateline='1389215466'CGS are those odd looking slabs (thin with pokey edge lugs) Mark picked up 3 of them for me a little while ago, 2 of which the farthings got removed and are at PCGS now, one I kept for reference. The seller has no clue they use a different standard again. Completely dodgy listing.
(http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/Slab%20diagram.jpg)

Googled more pics here (http://www.coinsgbforum.com/index.php?showtopic=529).

Do you have that slab with the 5 guineas in it :drooling:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: purplepennyhunter on January 09, 2014, 08:26:24 AM
These guys have some nice stuff.
London Coins (http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=retailv2&coin=Finest+Known&finest=Y)
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: stevo1962 on January 09, 2014, 09:06:06 AM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='39143' dateline='1389177398'
Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='39142' dateline='1389176997'A Stolen image..
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1930-australian-penny-/261369956836?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item3cdadd09e4

And, it's graded by CGS!
I'm thinking that's China Grading Service ?

AWSOME
Stolen image, no pic of the obverse, who the hell is "CGS" and a feedback score of 3.
HeHe "Tell im he's dreaming" :angel:

He also has identical feedback from 2 different sellers which is not possible
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fr45h3R on January 30, 2014, 05:46:11 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1915-H-Australia-Australien-One-1-2-half-Penny-George-V-/181310743718?pt=M%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen&hash=item2a36f664a6

Date almost looks right..
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Unicorn on January 30, 2014, 06:20:56 PM
:laugh2: ...... yes folks ..... look at that lustre, look at that wear ..... how did it wear with that much lustre remaining ...... yes and as Fr45h3R has pointed out, that date is ...... BAD ....

Even the description is Greek to me ....
QuoteДобро пожаловать в покупки в нашем магазине и участвовать в наших аукционах
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: oh my florin on January 30, 2014, 08:13:46 PM
Oh my gosh that has got to be one of the worst fake ebay listing possible firstly the date as stated above is atrocious with each number clearly yelling fake, secondly the detail on the kings bust is just plain terrible but on top of all that and screaming illegitimate and fake is the grammar of Australian as Australien I mean come on we aren't' squat little green things with antennae on the top of our heads.








Or so I have been told :O
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: bellyflorin on January 30, 2014, 08:25:36 PM
all his coins are fake  , i will report the low life  , here's another  piece of crapola  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1934-35-Australia-Australien-Australie-Florin-Centenary-of-Melbourne-George-V-/171229207021?pt=UK_Coins_World_RL&hash=item27de0e59ed
he has a 1946 penny too  .
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fr45h3R on March 11, 2014, 07:18:58 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1922-one-half-penny-in-mint-condition-/191096360441?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item2c7e3b0df9

Mint condition - is that like Mint as in Minty (green) in colour ?
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: JeffH on March 11, 2014, 07:24:51 PM
Don't tell me that lovely coin has been cleaned/dipped!
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: ausjack on March 11, 2014, 07:39:08 PM
my http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kek3GqbsTk
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: bellyflorin on March 11, 2014, 08:26:44 PM
Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='43610' dateline='1394527738'http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1922-one-half-penny-in-mint-condition-/191096360441?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item2c7e3b0df9

Mint condition - is that like Mint as in Minty (green) in colour ?

the  seller has high hopes on this one too

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1920-one-penny-in-fair-condition-/191096417915?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item2c7e3bee7b
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: ausjack on March 11, 2014, 08:48:00 PM
he only has 3 and only 1 feedback and that's as a buyer..a bit suss :dodgy:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fulvio on March 12, 2014, 01:49:33 PM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='43628' dateline='1394533080'he only has 3 and only 1 feedback and that's as a buyer..a bit suss :dodgy:

No.... surely not? Don't you recognise a bargain from a reputable 100% positive feedback pillar of the community when you see one? These are the rare bronze pattern proofs struck to the highest standards and lovingly restored after being found in an old Mars-bar wrapper! :dodgy:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Unicorn on March 12, 2014, 01:56:37 PM
Quote from: 'bellyflorin' pid='43625' dateline='1394531804'the  seller has high hopes on this one too

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1920-one-penny-in-fair-condition-/191096417915?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item2c7e3bee7b

I'm sure that's the 1920 Obverse Type 87 with the Wolfe Creek Crater below bottom scroll.

Absolute bargain!
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: markn on March 16, 2014, 08:29:22 AM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1777-Spanish-Colonial-8-Reales-Bolivia-/221389981227?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item338bdf062b&_uhb=1

Assuming the coin is real (which is most likely isn't) the grade would be AU55 or so.  But it's probably not real anyway, the king's hair looks like spaghetti.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Nevol on March 16, 2014, 08:50:26 AM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='43955' dateline='1394920762'http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1777-Spanish-Colonial-8-Reales-Bolivia-/221389981227?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item338bdf062b&_uhb=1
Assuming the coin is real (which is most likely isn't) the grade would be AU55 or so.  But it's probably not real anyway, the king's hair looks like spaghetti.
Seller just happens to be in Port Macquarie. What a coincidence. :dodgy: :dodgy:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: markn on March 16, 2014, 09:01:00 AM
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='43956' dateline='1394922026'
Quote from: 'markn' pid='43955' dateline='1394920762'http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1777-Spanish-Colonial-8-Reales-Bolivia-/221389981227?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item338bdf062b&_uhb=1
Assuming the coin is real (which is most likely isn't) the grade would be AU55 or so.  But it's probably not real anyway, the king's hair looks like spaghetti.
Seller just happens to be in Port Macquarie. What a coincidence. :dodgy: :dodgy:

Yes.  What a coincidence.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: trout on March 16, 2014, 09:03:17 AM
I have a 1796 pillar dollar in my collection and this ebay/APCGS coin is very different.:dodgy:
I can assure you MY coin isn't a fake :ok:

Here is my coin

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/8real1.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/8real.jpg)
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Unicorn on March 16, 2014, 12:02:28 PM
Interesting seller feedback ...... :dodgy:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/feed.jpg)
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: purplepennyhunter on March 16, 2014, 04:45:49 PM
Hmmm, that looks exactly like the feedback Mark left :dodgy:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: markn on March 16, 2014, 04:48:37 PM
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='43982' dateline='1394950549'Hmmm, that looks exactly like the feedback Mark left :dodgy:

Yes.  It is my feedback.  I'd forgotten he'd screwed me over before. I bought a coin on a BIN from him.  And it was a 1777 8 reales too (probably the same one).  Here's his first email to me:

**************

Hi Mark,


Im really sorry, please don't pay for this coin as ive accidently put the wrong price in I wanted to sell it for and thus don't want to sell it well below its actual value.

Thanks
- saxually_active

**************

And my response.  Clearly I wasn't having a happy Mark day.

**************

Dear saxually_active,

What do you consider it's actual value to be? You didn't even grade the coin so I am bemused as to how you arrived at it's actual value anyway. Grade is EVERYTHING in value. Just because you've found one auction result somewhere for a high price doesn't mean your coin is worth that.

I'll be opening a dispute for this item and giving you a negative for failure to sell. I really don't see what the problem is, you listed it at what I consider to be a fair price.
- Mark

******************************

And the final bit of correspondence.

******************************

Dear Mark,

Yes I looked at other auctions on ebay and know nothing about coins, but you will be pleased to know I have taken the coin to a valuer and it has been identified as a fake. Lucky for you your money has been refunded and for the fact that it wasn't examined before you decided to buy it, with such little information you would be now be at a loss of $190.00.
- saxually_active

******************************

So somehow the "fake" has ended up in a APCGS slab.  If it's a fake well shame on them and him for trying to sell it.  If it's not a fake then he stiffed me and shame on him and shame on APCGS for so badly undergrading it.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: purplepennyhunter on March 16, 2014, 04:55:09 PM
shame shane shame
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: emu666 on March 16, 2014, 05:02:07 PM
Mark did you know that you can leave follow up feedback to the feedback you have already left?

Enjoy yourself.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Unicorn on March 16, 2014, 05:02:37 PM
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='43984' dateline='1394951109'shame shane shame

:laugh2: ....... Hinch would love that!
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: markn on March 16, 2014, 05:09:30 PM
Quote from: 'emu666' pid='43985' dateline='1394951527'Mark did you know that you can leave follow up feedback to the feedback you have already left?

Enjoy yourself.

w00t.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: emu666 on March 16, 2014, 05:45:40 PM
Nice response.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Steveqld on March 16, 2014, 05:54:59 PM
Did anyone confirm it is a copy.  I can't find them on any of the regular China websites but looking at the obverse, the C in Carolus and the second A in Gratia are both touching the bust and close to the denticles.

This image from Wikipedia:

http://www.coinfactswiki.com/wiki/Image:Bolivia_1777_8_reales_Aureo_238-0436g.jpg

and every other image I can find shows a clear gap at both the top and bottom of the lettering and the A is closer to the front of the robe than the first shoulder flap.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: trout on March 16, 2014, 06:15:42 PM
Love your response to this "Bridge Troll" Mark.
I just wish I was as eloquent as you with this type of arsehole.
Love your work Mate :wavemulticolor:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fr45h3R on March 29, 2014, 02:35:43 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1956Y-Proof-Penny-FDC-RARE-/121304022478?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item1c3e487dce

.... it has a bid. (and $50 postage)
No comment.

makes sense now, I just saw this one http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1956Y-Proof-Penny-FDC-RARE-/151247913954?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item23371403e2

I guess if it looks the same then it must be worth the same.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Unicorn on March 29, 2014, 02:40:31 PM
.... oh dear ....

Surely it has to be a shill bid ....

.... though looking at the history there seems no correlation .... eeeek!
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: emu666 on March 29, 2014, 02:42:35 PM
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='45227' dateline='1396066231'.... oh dear ....

Surely it has to be a shill bid ....


It can be a mistake to underestimate human greed and human stupidity.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on March 29, 2014, 02:50:46 PM
The bidder has 779 feedback ,mainly buying coins from all over the world (WTF ),you'd think they would have some research skills seeing FB score like theirs.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Unicorn on March 29, 2014, 02:52:40 PM
Quote from: 'emu666' pid='45229' dateline='1396066355'It can be a mistake to underestimate human greed and human stupidity.

:laugh2: ..... I think perhaps the latter
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fulvio on April 06, 2014, 10:31:00 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1999-Australian-10c-Coin-Double-Strike-Error-Rare-EF-/261119799491

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/1/2/7/7/7/6/webimg/618288818_o.jpg)

Now, I'm not calling this dodgy... but I don't think this description is quite right either:

QuoteDetails: Interesting double strike error. This coin has been struck once, failed to eject from the collar, rotated 90 degrees, and then been struck again. It has resulted in an overlapping of the relief and a clear '10' being struck ninety degrees to the first. It is a bit hard to see in the photo, but when light is reflected off of the coin, it is clear to see. Very nice and almost certainly unique.  

If it happened like he describes, then I would think both sides would be affected. Yet the obverse is normal.

Its got me stumped. Anybody got any clues?
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Nevol on April 07, 2014, 08:46:24 AM
Looks to me like it had a pool of clear 'resin' or similar applied, then the rev of another coin pushed into it to make an impression in the resin, but hey what do I know?

If it happened as described by the seller, wouldn't the Obv have a double image as well instead of being perfect?
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on April 07, 2014, 11:23:17 AM
QuoteIf it happened as described by the seller, wouldn't the Obv have a double image as well instead of being perfect?

Absolutely,definitely been tampered with in some way IMO as well.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: trout on April 19, 2014, 05:45:56 AM
Just found this "beauty" :laugh2:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ERROR-AUSTRALIAN-1944-GEORGE-VI-THREEPENCE-PARTIAL-BROCKAGE-VF-VF-/161274055745?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item258caecc41
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: serial on April 19, 2014, 12:10:19 PM
Is it fake?
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: trout on April 19, 2014, 12:28:49 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='46857' dateline='1397875219'Is it fake?

Looks like a "Shed Job" to me:dodgy:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Australian coin on April 19, 2014, 12:38:26 PM
it does not match a normal brockage, unless the other coin magically developed a hole in it :P

oh and the preesure of a second strike would remove underlying detail, this coin has been smacked with another on top, with a washer behind it, bahaha
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on April 19, 2014, 12:42:23 PM
I agree , it does'nt look like it should.

I 've dealt with the seller & never had any problems but this coin just is'nt right.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: trout on April 19, 2014, 12:44:05 PM
Quote from: 'accumulator' pid='46860' dateline='1397877143'I agree , it does'nt look like it should.

I 've dealt with the seller & never had any problems but this coin just is'nt right.

The seller has another one of these.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ERROR-1960-ELIZABETH-II-SHILLING-PARTIAL-BROCKAGE-VF-EF-/161274885283?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item258cbb74a3
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Australian coin on April 19, 2014, 12:46:56 PM
yeah that one looks better tho, it has a raised rim and stretching effect on the second lettering and the detail was kept on the back
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on April 19, 2014, 12:53:38 PM
Yeah, imo that one is legit.
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: accumulator on April 19, 2014, 02:13:47 PM
here is another shed job threepence.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ERROR-Australian-1942D-Threepence-Partial-Brockage-Mistrike-Great-Example-/171304047863?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item27e28454f7&_uhb=1
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: Fr45h3R on April 23, 2014, 08:03:19 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Scarce-1918-Sixpence-450-/171308872378?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item27e2cdf2ba
:dodgy:
Title: RE: Seems Legit Thread
Post by: echidna on April 23, 2014, 08:11:04 PM
Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='47263' dateline='1398249199'http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Scarce-1918-Sixpence-450-/171308872378?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item27e2cdf2ba
:dodgy:

Yet another Chinese dud.