I've got a 1951 plain Half penny (pics will come later, once I've entered it into my system), but it's perfectly struck up, sharp hairlines, thin lettering, etc, reminiscent of a 1951-PL. So my question is, is there a variety of the 1951-PL with the missing PL mintmark?
Would love to see some pics
According to my book- 1951 (London) PL - missing mintmark- Extra Rare.!:idea:
Sounds like a super coin!
Is it time to crack my piggy bank ?
It was in a collection of half pennies I bought for $350 (which had like 50 uncirculated Geo VI half pennies). I'm starting to think it's just a well struck up 1951 plain half penny.
Here it is:
(http://downloads.putme.net/IMG_3405.JPG)
(http://downloads.putme.net/IMG_3406.JPG)
Just check the Obverse Die type.
Obverse 4 = Perth and London
Obverse 5 = Perth
A well struck up Perth no dot Obverse 4 is not to be sneazed at.
Very nice Walter and i really like the colour around the last A in australia..I think I could quite easly find it a very good home :winkextra:
It's a 1951 Y. Type 5 obverse. Not a London coin. You can see the mint mark after the Y, it's just mostly filled.
(http://www.timeclockmts.com/coins/filled-mm.jpg)
As far as I'm aware, the 5 in the date of a 1951-Y dot is positioned lower.
The first I in FEIDI doesn't line up as the 1951-PL does so I suspect it is just a well struck up 1951 plain?
Intersting conundrum.
It's an Obverse 5.
The Date alignment is consistent with No Dot reverse.
The 5 in the '51 Ydot. is a shorter font.
The Fill/Lump is in an unfortunate position.
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Australian%20Coin%20Forum/walters1951Nodot_zps5f820592.jpg)
Quote from: 'wwwww' pid='11892' dateline='1365764261'As far as I'm aware, the 5 in the date of a 1951-Y dot is positioned lower.
The first I in FEIDI doesn't line up as the 1951-PL does so I suspect it is just a well struck up 1951 plain?
Probably. Definitely not a PL though.
Well that solves that mystery:
I still have a few dozen 1951 plains in high grade to work through. This one is definitely the work of the Perth mint:
(http://downloads.putme.net/IMG_3423.jpg)
(http://downloads.putme.net/IMG_3424.jpg)
noice
obv 4
I can't see a dot there?
The 1951 plain is also from the Perth mint, water staining, carbon streaks, die rust, uneven rim beads, baggy surfaces, must be a Perth mint strike!
I agree 100%
Just gotta love the west aussie way of minting coins!
I think you guys are confusing me- if I was to keep 5 of each of the 1951 Halfpenny varieties how many coins would I need.???:idea:
This is a good article.
The Sandpit (http://www.thesandpit.net/index.php?option=1951_perth_halfpenny)
"Thankyou Young Lady"!!
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='11921' dateline='1365806553'I think you guys are confusing me- if I was to keep 5 of each of the 1951 Halfpenny varieties how many coins would I need.???:idea:
Uh, 25? 5 1951PL's, 5 1951 Plain Type 4's, 5 1951 Plain Type 5's, 5 1951Y Type 4's, and 5 1951Y Type 5's.
The plain type 4's are the hard ones. Surprisingly they seem to be most common in Adelaide so you should be able to find one Robster if you look around the coin shops here.
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='11921' dateline='1365806553'I think you guys are confusing me- if I was to keep 5 of each of the 1951 Halfpenny varieties how many coins would I need.???:idea:
To obtain 5X Obverse 4 Plain reverse in High Grade
I wish you Good Luck.
If you find one, grab it!
There is more '23 Halfpenny's on offer than these things.
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Australian%20Coin%20Forum/IMG_0530-White_zpsae585b98.jpg)
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Australian%20Coin%20Forum/IMG_0532-White_zps8861d102.jpg)
I've found a number of them including a few which are borderline UNC. The best one graded up as a MS63RB. I found a mid-grade example here in Adelaide a few weeks ago that's sitting on the PP site right now. I don't go out of my way to look for them but do look at any 1951 half penny I see. As I said earlier, they do show up here in Adelaide. Another forum member has found a few here too.
Here's the pictures of some of the better 1951 Plain Type 4's that I've found.
(http://www.timeclockmts.com/coins/australia-1951-half-penny-plain.jpg)
(http://www.timeclockmts.com/coins/australia-1951-half-penny-plain-2.jpg)
(http://www.timeclockmts.com/coins/australia-1951-half-penny-plain-3.jpg)
(http://www.timeclockmts.com/coins/australia-1951-half-penny-plain-4.jpg)
(http://www.timeclockmts.com/coins/australia-1951-half-penny-plain-5.jpg)
Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='11937' dateline='1365817857'There is more '23 Halfpenny's on offer than these things.
I wish they were worth what a cruddy 1923 1/2d is worth.
Quote from: 'markn' pid='11943' dateline='1365822276'Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='11937' dateline='1365817857'There is more '23 Halfpenny's on offer than these things.
I wish they were worth what a cruddy 1923 1/2d is worth.
I was underbidder on this one, and bidding on the night. Someone had a nice proxy bid on it, I would have gone higher but not with my wedding coming soon.
http://www.pacificrimonlineauctions.com/1951-Halfpenny-PCGS-MS63-RB-No-Dot_i15815114
Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='11945' dateline='1365822536'I was underbidder on this one, and bidding on the night. Someone had a nice proxy bid on it, I would have gone higher but not with my wedding coming soon.
http://www.pacificrimonlineauctions.com/1951-Halfpenny-PCGS-MS63-RB-No-Dot_i15815114
Bad luck, that's not a bad price. Someone really needed to proof read the description of that coin it's bordering on gibberish.
" Indeed even average coins to Akers up a halfpenny set is sometimes a challenge much less than this problem free mint state."
Huh??
What a boring coin to noodle.!! I found two type 4's (one which has been severely polished) and another in very average condition.
Most coins were very poorly struck with 'mushy' denticles making the job even harder.! Did find two with Triangular denticles below roo's tail but these two are less than average as well.!!
Shouldn't complain but I did anyway.!!:blink: