This is awesome, did anyone here win it? I reckon thats a relatively low price.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/130881450384?nma=true&si=s23T9T%2FKfGQIyHOgucXKXCloZEY%3D&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2557&orig_cvip=true
I have NEVER seen anything like that, The damn thing looks like a bottle top:yahoo:
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='11580' dateline='1365319313'This is awesome, did anyone here win it? I reckon thats a relatively low price.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/130881450384?nma=true&si=s23T9T%2FKfGQIyHOgucXKXCloZEY%3D&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2557&orig_cvip=true
Need to wait if M decides to share :angel:
I bet that was never plucked from circulation. Somehow managed to miss the scrap bin at the mint, I suspect.
I agree Jeff. Either out of the mint or the security company rolling machine. Still awesome though!!!!!
Uh perhaps someone here won it :angel:
Or perhaps a couple of someone's.
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='11584' dateline='1365319922'I bet that was never plucked from circulation. Somehow managed to miss the scrap bin at the mint, I suspect.
He also just sold this:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/australian-coin10-ten-cent-coin-super-rare-error-double-error-/130881431648?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item1e79242860&_uhb=1#ht_634wt_1165
We've never seen an Australian error pair like it. We suspect he might have had a father or grandfather working at the mint. He's in Canberra. Coincidence?
Congrats on the die cap PPH and Markn!
Those 10c are amazing!!!
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='11601' dateline='1365330649'Those 10c are amazing!!!
Yes they are. I'd love to be able to afford them.
Ho can i cultivate a mint employee to bring me home some things like that?
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='11605' dateline='1365331221'Ho can i cultivate a mint employee to bring me home some things like that?
He/she had better be willing to go to gaol. This is what happened to a US Mint employee in the last year or two:
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/US-Mint-Worker-Stole--129518468.html
The thing i like about the 5c is it isnt 'mint sport'. Its a genuine error which was more than likely smuggled from the mint.
humm
older years
so the smuggling should of happened some years back
nice pick-up Mark
extremely rare error there
Quote from: 'markn' pid='11608' dateline='1365331419'http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/US-Mint-Worker-Stole--129518468.html
That story was rubbish. A sad reflection on what passes for journalism nowadays. This one is much better:
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/u-s-mint-reviewing-security-after-cape-may-county-man/article_5dacb66e-ebb7-11e0-9c10-001cc4c03286.html
The feds sure did a number on him... for nicking 32,000 bits of scrap metal, they took from him (and his family) three years of his life, everything he owned, his future AND $2.3 million. Moral of the story is, if you're going to commit a crime, choose your target carefully.
"Moral of the story is, if you're going to commit a crime, choose your target carefully. "
lol im pretty sure the moral you want your kids to learn is dont do the crime.
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='11637' dateline='1365390194'The feds sure did a number on him... for nicking 32,000 bits of scrap metal, they took from him (and his family) three years of his life, everything he owned, his future AND $2.3 million. Moral of the story is, if you're going to commit a crime, choose your target carefully.
Interesting logic. Those scraps of metal were legitimate currency that did not belong to him. Moral of the story is if you're going to commit a crime prepare to get caught.
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='11637' dateline='1365390194'The feds sure did a number on him... for nicking 32,000 bits of scrap metal, they took from him (and his family) three years of his life, everything he owned, his future AND $2.3 million. Moral of the story is, if you're going to commit a crime, choose your target carefully.
I think your interpretation is pretty wrong.
He nicked $32,000
He profited $2,300,000 or $2,400,000 from his crime (depending on which of the stories is right)
HE got 3 years "supervised release". Not even jail time, and certainly not his family.
He forfeited lots of propery, but KEEPS his house - not "everything he owned".
he OWES $2,300,000 which will never be paid as its being paid off at the rate of $1000 per month. I am not sure if the value of what has been forfeited comes off the debt or not.
All in all, I think he got off pretty light and there will people who read this story who think "I would take the chance if I could - even when he got caught not much happened".
If he had stolen $32,000 from you or me, he would have gotten off with a slap on the wrist. And we would not have seen any restitution, regardless of any penalty imposed.
Since the coins were to be destroyed, they can't be valued at face value, only scrap value. Nor can it be claimed he was devaluing the currency, as they were never going to be released into circulation either way.
Sure he committed a crime. But the identity of the victim, or any windfall profit made by selling the stolen goods should not enter into it, other than the taxation angle of course. However because the victim was the government, he was treated far more harshly than if it were any normal citizen who was being ripped off.
BTW, the reports I saw were that he was going to do actual time, and that the property seizures were separate from the $2.3m, which admittedly will never be paid. And as for his family not being affected, try taking a grand a month out of a pensioner's income and see what's left to eat. They may have a house, but you can't eat houses.
The 5c error and the 10c errors are amazing. Nice work on getting the 5c. Definitely cheap in my eyes. I think the 10c coins went for a steal as well.
I have a 1c or 2c die cap (bad memory...) but no where near as good as that 5c! Reminds me of a bullet post hitting its target!
Quote from: 'markn' pid='11599' dateline='1365329915'Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='11584' dateline='1365319922'I bet that was never plucked from circulation. Somehow managed to miss the scrap bin at the mint, I suspect.
He also just sold this:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/australian-coin10-ten-cent-coin-super-rare-error-double-error-/130881431648?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item1e79242860&_uhb=1#ht_634wt_1165
We've never seen an Australian error pair like it. We suspect he might have had a father or grandfather working at the mint. He's in Canberra. Coincidence?
just slightly ......
(http://www.timeclockmts.com/coins/cap1.jpg)
(http://www.timeclockmts.com/coins/cap2.jpg)
(http://www.timeclockmts.com/coins/cap3.jpg)
(http://www.timeclockmts.com/coins/cap4.jpg)
(http://www.timeclockmts.com/coins/cap5.jpg)
congratulations! I love that you can see the reeding squeezed
It looks massive in hand and I really thought there was no way that it's only the metal from one coin. But weighed it and it's 2.78g just shy of it's 2.83g spec.
A truly amazing error. Great pics. It is a bit like a Train Smash- you just can't look away.!!:yahoo:
It's pretty spectacular in hand and much bigger than you'd think. It's amazing the metal has extruded as far as it has.
Niiiice !, I wonder how many other coins were struck with this cap on the die ?,4-6 by the look of the tear type effect.
Do you think that the first blank could have mated with another blank to cause that excess bottle cap effect? How much does it weigh?
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='12247' dateline='1366168573'It looks massive in hand and I really thought there was no way that it's only the metal from one coin. But weighed it and it's 2.78g just shy of it's 2.83g spec.
Quote from: 'planchetflaw' pid='12270' dateline='1366177771'Do you think that the first blank could have mated with another blank to cause that excess bottle cap effect? How much does it weigh?
I'm blind!! Thanks!
That is one super flash thimble Mark :angel:
the Holy Grail of errors
well done Mark
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='12322' dateline='1366191745'the Holy Grail of errors
well done Mark
PPH must take credit too. It's been a team effort. So much so that she seems to think the die cap is hers.
and? wot is the problem here?? *giggle*
the hubby is the same with my stuff
he gets cross when I off load my errors, as if they were his or something
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='12334' dateline='1366194487'and? wot is the problem here?? *giggle*
the hubby is the same with my stuff
he gets cross when I off load my errors, as if they were his or something
The difference is that it's ours. I'd be cross if she sold it.
we formally co-parent certain coins
and they stay in his folders cause he's not as clumsy as me
I am forever going 'whoops' crash - that was a choice unc coin - ha ha