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Title: Found I had this radar.
Post by: JeffH on April 07, 2013, 04:19:44 PM
I was sorting out my notes on my market stall, in a quite moment yesterday, and discovered this in a mixed lot.
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It is a sound note but well creased (doesn't really look as dirty as the scan suggests). I would say at least fine but less than VF. So, catalogue value not really much, if any, above face value.
If anyone is interested in it then PM me.

Jeff
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: trout on April 07, 2013, 04:27:09 PM
PM sent :good:
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: JeffH on April 07, 2013, 04:32:30 PM
Looks like this note will be moving house shortly.

Jeff
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: trout on April 14, 2013, 02:09:02 PM
My FIRST radar EVER :dance2:
You are a legend Jeff :yahoo:
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Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: ausjack on April 14, 2013, 02:42:55 PM
If I'd know that earlier :dash1:
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: JeffH on April 17, 2013, 12:04:20 PM
And, thanks for the 50 trillion (Zimbabwe) as payment.
QuoteZimbabwean Dollar History
In January 2009, the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe permitted the use of foreign currency in Zimbabwe in response to an economic decline that caused inflation levels of 5 billion percent. By April 2009, the Zimbabwe dollar was suspended indefinitely; the government now uses the South African Rand, the United States Dollar, and the British Pound. For more information, read the BBC's Zimbabwe dollar 'not back soon' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7995882.stm).
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: JeffH on April 17, 2013, 06:41:05 PM
I've been thinking about these ultra denomination Zimbabwe note. Not worth the paper they are printed on because;
•paper is too harsh for wiping, if toilet paper runs out,
•all that printing precludes use as a note sheet and
•it is actually good banknote paper stock so won't burn easily. I can't even use it to light the fire!

Jeff
PS.
Thanks trout for the actual payment.
JH
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: trout on April 17, 2013, 08:58:19 PM
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='12313' dateline='1366189865'I've been thinking about these ultra denomination Zimbabwe note. Not worth the paper they are printed on because;
•paper is too harsh for wiping, if toilet paper runs out,
•all that printing precludes use as a note sheet and
•it is actually good banknote paper stock so won't burn easily. I can't even use it to light the fire!

Jeff
PS.
Thanks trout for the actual payment.
JH

NO Worries mate, I can slip you another few Trill if ya need em :laugh2:
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Goldseeker on October 17, 2013, 08:36:42 PM
Went shopping with the missus today and she withdrew some money.   This note was in the bundle:   It has two creases bottom left and some smaller creases top left.   Is it worthwhile keeping or spend please?
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Fulvio on October 17, 2013, 09:00:22 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='31294' dateline='1382004402'Is it worthwhile keeping or spend please?

Keep. Or sell it to me. ;)
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Unicorn on October 17, 2013, 09:31:34 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='11995' dateline='1365914342'My FIRST radar EVER :dance2:
You are a legend Jeff :yahoo:

You're lucky Trout, the Beagle Boys were one number off .......
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/beagle.jpg)
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Nevol on October 18, 2013, 07:14:34 AM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='31294' dateline='1382004402'Went shopping with the missus today and she withdrew some money.   This note was in the bundle:   It has two creases bottom left and some smaller creases top left.   Is it worthwhile keeping or spend please?
Definitely a keeper. :yahoo:
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Cooper S on October 18, 2013, 03:23:01 PM
can someone explain to me what a radar is?
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Unicorn on October 18, 2013, 03:27:33 PM
It's when the serial number of the note consists of different numbers, but reads the same from left to right as it does right to left ..... eg: 871178
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Nevol on October 18, 2013, 03:28:33 PM
Quote from: 'Cooper S' pid='31355' dateline='1382071981'can someone explain to me what a radar is?
Two types can occur with Ausssie Polymer notes.  The one Goldy posted above is a 6 digit, where the last 6 digits read the same both ways, and an 8 digit would read the same using all 8 digits including the year.

6 digit:02 437734
8 digit:05 588550
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Cooper S on October 18, 2013, 04:53:33 PM
thanks guys!
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Fulvio on October 18, 2013, 10:49:30 PM
Radars are palindromes.
Then you have repeaters, like 121212 or 123123 or 12 341234 etc etc.
And the kings of special numbers, solids. 777777 or 11 111111.

Plus of course first and last prefixes, and special prefixes like on test notes.
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: MattGold on December 07, 2013, 01:42:17 PM
Here's something a mate on another group wrote up..

Radar notes - Notes that have a serial that can be read back to front - can be either 6 7 or 8 digit. 8 digit radars are quite rare and sought after.
 
Examples:
 
AA 06 123 321 (6 digit radar)
AA 06 123 216 (7 digit radar)
AA 06 122 160 (8 digit radar)
 
8 digit radars are rare, only 1 in every 11,111 notes.6 digits radars are more common, one in every 1,111 notes.
 
Repeater notes - Notes that have a repeated section of the serial. Can either be 2 3 or 4 digit and of varying lengths)
 
Examples:
 
AA 06 120 612 (4 digit repeater over 8)
AA 06 123 123 (3 digit repeater over 6)
AA 06 106 106 (3 digit repeater over 8)
AA 06 060 606 (2 digit repeater over 8)
AA 06 121 212 (2 digit repeater over 6)
AA 06 161 616 (2 digit repeater over 7)
 
You get the idea - lots of ways to repeat. Repeaters are 1 in every 1,111 notes.
 
Radar repeaters - basically a combination of both, and a little rarer.
 
AA 06 121 121 (6 digit radar repeater)
AA 12 211 221 (8 digit radar repeater)
 
Radar repeaters are rarer still, 1 in every 11,111 notes.
 
Binary notes - Stem from the above basically either or both consisting of two numbers only. thus the 4th example is a binary note. Binary notes need only contain two numbers, and do not need to be in specific orders like repeaters or radars. True binary notes only contain the digits zero and one.
 
AA 06 060 606 (2 digit repeater over 8, binary)
AA 06 666 660 (Binary radar, also a solid note)
AA 10 110 101 (True binary)
 
Upside down notes - Serials that are identical even if you flip them.
 
Example:
 
AA 00 696 900 (if you flip this the serial will still be easily read)
 
Solid notes - Simple but can have all solid or near solid. Near solid arent nearly as cool, full solids will bring a hefty premium of a few hundred dollars.
 
There will ofcourse be a very select few 8 digit solid notes coming about soon with prinitng runs occuring in 2011. Solid radars also exist
 
Examples:
 
AA 11 111 111 (8 digit solid - extremely rare) 1 in every 999,999 notes
AA 11 222 222 (6 digit solid - rare) 1 in every 111,111 notes
AA 11 111 222 (semi solid - rare) I'm not that good at maths to give you an accurate figure :P
AA 06 455 555 (still considered semi-solid to some)
AA 12 222 221 (solid radar note, also classified as a binary)
 
Ladder Notes - when numbers go up or down. Also can be found as radars, can be up, down or both. Can also have double digit ladders
 
Examples:
 
AA 06 123 456 (6 digit ladder)
AA 01 234 567 (8 digit ladder)
AA 06 654 321 (6 digit descending)
AA 98 765 432 (8 digit descending)
AA 12 344 321 (ladder radar 8 digit)
AA 12 131 415 (double digit laddar - 12, 13, 14, 15)
AA 09 101 112 (double digit laddar - 9, 10, 11, 12)
 
8 digit ladders are extremely rare, equal with 8 digit solid serials, being 1 in 999,999 notes, however not all notes have them, as the year can only be 98 or 12. The next opportunity is in 2023 for AA 23 456 789. This actually makes the rarity of these notes much higher.
 
High and low serials - self explanatory, I don't know who really decides what is deemed high or low, up to the individual I presume.
 
AA 06 000 005 (low serial, I believe anything under 5 is low)
AA 06 999 995 (high serial, I believe anything above 95 as high)
 
And there are many more - I'll complete the list when I get time!
 
Basic percentages in a run of 999,999 notes
 
9 6 digit solid serials or 0.0009%
1 8 digit solid serial or 0.0001%
90 radar repeaters 0.009%
99 8 digit radars 0.01%
900 radars 0.09%
900 repeaters 0.09%
10 Low or high serials 0.001%
8 True 6 digit ladders 0.0008%
1 True 8 digit ladder 0.0001%

Here's my fav in my collection, I have someone looking at these at the moment but if buyer decides not to purchase I will sell the pair to anyone on here interested.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/24fdbav.jpg)
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Nevol on December 07, 2013, 04:00:52 PM
Never heard of a 7 digit RADAR, and would not collect them even if I found them. :grin:
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Fulvio on December 07, 2013, 05:49:21 PM
Quote from: 'MattGold' pid='36460' dateline='1386385937'one in every 1,111 notes.

Huh? A consecutive block of a thousand notes, say ZZ99 123xxx is guaranteed to contain both a radar and a repeater. Where did 1111 come from??? :dodgy:

And I'm with Nancy on the 7-digits.. sounds like too much effort, and people are clutching at straws. ;)
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: trout on December 07, 2013, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='36480' dateline='1386400761'
Quote from: 'MattGold' pid='36460' dateline='1386385937'one in every 1,111 notes.

Huh? A consecutive block of a thousand notes, say ZZ99 123xxx is guaranteed to contain both a radar and a repeater. Where did 1111 come from??? :dodgy:

And I'm with Nancy on the 7-digits.. sounds like too much effort, and people are clutching at straws. ;)

HeHe, Everyone can send me their reject notes .
I'll pay 80 cents in the dollar for them to save you the drama of  taking them back to the bank :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Fulvio on December 07, 2013, 06:51:23 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='36482' dateline='1386402294'I'll pay 80 cents in the dollar for them

Shyster! I wouldn't take a penny less than 81¢! :angel:
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: trout on December 07, 2013, 06:56:31 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='36484' dateline='1386404483'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='36482' dateline='1386402294'I'll pay 80 cents in the dollar for them

Shyster! I wouldn't take a penny less than 81¢! :angel:

Crikey Mate you are breaking my balls here :dash1:
OK JUST for YOU 81 cents it is :) :diablo: :Laugh2:

I also have a bridge for sale if you are interested, looks a bit like a coat hanger :angel:
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Unicorn on December 07, 2013, 06:58:20 PM
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/ob3.jpg)
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Fulvio on December 07, 2013, 06:59:58 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='36485' dateline='1386404791'I also have a bridge for sale if you are interested, looks a bit like a coat hanger

Ooooohhh... I LOVE bridges! I must have it for my collection, so I'll give you ONE whole dollar! Free postage I presume? :)

Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='36486' dateline='1386404900'

You BAD man! Don't you know people have bubbles copyrighted? :angel:
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: trout on December 07, 2013, 07:05:24 PM
QuoteOoooohhh... I LOVE bridges! I must have it for my collection, so I'll give you ONE whole dollar! Free postage I presume?
Sorry Mate has to be at least 5 bucks and you have to go to Sydney and pick it up yourself OK :laugh2:
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Unicorn on December 07, 2013, 07:25:18 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='36487' dateline='1386404998'You BAD man!

At least he was a repeater :laugh2:
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Unicorn on December 10, 2013, 02:24:58 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='36485' dateline='1386404791'I also have a bridge for sale if you are interested, looks a bit like a coat hanger :angel:

I'll pass on the bridge this time, but I know of an Airport that's going cheap ........ and just the second paragraph in ........
QuoteSpain's real estate bubble

For sale ..... Airport (http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-advice/spains-famous-ghost-airport-goes-up-for-sale/story-fn6yjmoc-1226779420008)

bubble,bubble,bubble,2003 Volunteers Speared Mother Variety(ka-ching),bubble,bubble,bubble

I'm sure the Airport's "on topic" as it would surely have a radar and at least one runway ........ :angel:
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Triggersmob on January 19, 2014, 05:48:34 PM
Found this in the till at work today.
Would this be considered a radar?

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/001~1.JPG)
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: JeffH on January 19, 2014, 05:54:36 PM
No, sorry.
07 505505 or 07 500570 would be.
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Unicorn on January 19, 2014, 06:26:54 PM
But so, soooo close Steve!
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Fulvio on January 19, 2014, 07:02:03 PM
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='39983' dateline='1390116276'No, sorry.
07 505505 or 07 500570 would be.

Technically, 8-digit radars are a stretch too, since the year isn't actually part of the serial (sheet) number. Not that any of us would take any notice of that.. I would certainly hang onto one. :diablo:
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: keldaw on January 19, 2014, 07:34:56 PM
so close , but I have a 8 did and a 6 did you can get
 I will show pic tomorrow .. keep watching .  ,, kel ,,
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Triggersmob on January 19, 2014, 08:34:57 PM
What about if I acetone the 1 off the end. :)
Just kidding.
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Fulvio on January 19, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='39999' dateline='1390125897'What about if I acetone the 1 off the end. :)

You're only allowed to do that if you list it on ebay in big red letters with at least three RAREs in the description. Or claim you found it in grandma's laundry basket. :diablo:
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Triggersmob on January 19, 2014, 09:49:49 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='40001' dateline='1390126523'
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='39999' dateline='1390125897'What about if I acetone the 1 off the end. :)

You're only allowed to do that if you list it on ebay in big red letters with at least three RAREs in the description. Or claim you found it in grandma's laundry basket. :diablo:

:) :) :)
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: JeffH on January 23, 2014, 04:59:04 PM
Not a RADAR but a REPEATER in my change at the servo this afternoon. Nice and crisp and clean too for the age! I would say aUNC is reasonable grade for it -corners perfect and some centre folding.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10055/_20_repeater.jpg)

This is not the type of thing I collect but, if anyone is interested in it, please pm me. I won't spend it yet in case there is a home for it.
Jeff
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Fulvio on January 23, 2014, 06:20:29 PM
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='40253' dateline='1390458544'I won't spend it yet in case there is a home for it.

There's always a home for them.. at my place if all else fails, and nobody else wants it. :)

Today's trip to the banks produced no coins, but a small stack of crisp $2, and a couple of fivers. Not bad.. pity my favourite teller is retiring tomorrow to open a food joint in Craigieburn. :(
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: Goldseeker on January 23, 2014, 08:03:32 PM
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Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='40253' dateline='1390458544'Not a RADAR but a REPEATER in my change at the servo this afternoon. Nice and crisp and clean too for the age! I would say aUNC is reasonable grade for it -corners perfect and some centre folding.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10055/_20_repeater.jpg)

This is not the type of thing I collect but, if anyone is interested in it, please pm me. I won't spend it yet in case there is a home for it.
Jeff
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: interest on January 23, 2014, 10:53:50 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='40001' dateline='1390126523'
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='39999' dateline='1390125897'What about if I acetone the 1 off the end. :)

You're only allowed to do that if you list it on ebay in big red letters with at least three RAREs in the description. Or claim you found it in grandma's laundry basket. :diablo:

What about an old Tabaco tin??
Gotta be rare then.
Title: RE: Found I had this radar.
Post by: JeffH on February 19, 2014, 04:27:43 PM
So close but I don't win a kewpie doll!
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10055/Not_radar.jpg)