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Title: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: enworb on April 05, 2013, 06:05:52 PM
Got my heat sealer today and have had a little go with it. Also worked on getting some printed inserts for 2x2s to make my coins look better. Thinking i will change all my coins into this layout now.

Ive got about 10 2c coins done up like that. Im giving them away, just send me a PM with your address and answer two questions when you get them. 1. Would you be more likely to buy a coin from ebay that has a photo of the coin, nicely presented in a flip? 2. would you be more likely to remember that seller when a coin arrives and it is nicely packaged?

(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q772/enworb5/DSC06939_zps3dc849ea.jpg)
(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q772/enworb5/DSC06940_zpsd2a30e0b.jpg)
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: Australian coin on April 05, 2013, 06:54:15 PM
I don't want a coin, but good questions hmmmm..

(1) how the coin is presented doesn't matter on eBay, its more about can I see the image clearly, does it have marks on it, oh and then price.
I have bought threepence in 2x2's that have clearly been re-used several times, it had many staple marks and was creamy coloured and had it, but I wanted the coin inside cos I knew it was good.

(2) I usually put the coins I receive in the cardboard staple 2x2's when I get them anyway, so receiving them all done up doesn't matter to me, but when you see something sent with a bit of care you always go well that was nice, that person takes care of the coins.
haha you want to know the ones you remember are the ones that leave cute messages or just use really innovative ways of packaging stuff, man I have received some weird packages that just made me laugh "they used that" then you get some that drive you bonkers and its like playing pass the parcel with hundreds of layers of tissue, even had one in toilet paper! or round and round with tape that take 10 minutes to get off without damaging the coin "it slowly torturing you" bahaha
I am usually happy with receiving coins in the mail that have been put in-between folded paper, or stapled into place between 2 pieces of cardboard - so you know they are not sliding around.


you know the best thing I like is communication, even if it a PM to say I received payment and posted you coins today, thankyou for you purchase - that's what I send as a seller
sometime you receive similar from other sellers like looking forward to your next purchase, or future business
I usually buy from sellers that communicate more with, I have several favourite sellers that know you and when you buy something they send personal messages that are great, there also the ones that are happy to combine post and I usually add extra items that are not listed, cos they are shops or people that pull apart sets and you ask do you have any of these, I bank deposit and they are always great to me, its important to look after you customers.
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: Robster on April 05, 2013, 06:59:59 PM
Looks highly professional and would definitely keep the sellers name at the forefront.!!
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: enworb on April 05, 2013, 07:16:02 PM
Ive packaged those die cracks (the ones ive owed you for 5 years lol) the same way and i'll post them tomorrow morning.
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: Ozcoins on April 05, 2013, 08:35:41 PM
Hi Enworb,
I have sent you an more comprehensive email earlier today, but they look good and would certainly be memorable.
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: trout on April 05, 2013, 10:23:30 PM
I hate to say this Matty but if you put these up on the bay most buyers wold see them as 'Basement type Slabs" and steer clear of them.
As AC said the MOST important thing in a listing is  great pics and an honest and detailed description.
As far as I am concerned you already have a good name on the bay , this experiment may hurt that :ok:
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: enworb on April 05, 2013, 11:26:39 PM
What is it that makes it look like an attempt at a TPG?
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: robbiegal on April 06, 2013, 12:19:00 AM
looks neat and very well presented

2 questions
will the coin fall down to the bottom heading and cover it?

how did you get that print on that very small square of paper?
i am impressed!!

doesn't look like a fake slab to me
looks like a well presented 2 x 2 to me
lot's of sellers have their coins presented this way
and i have never figured out how they print on 2x2 holders - but some do it and it looks great!
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: enworb on April 06, 2013, 12:24:19 AM
I printed 15 squares onto an A4 piece of paper and cut them out. Its a bit rough because im a complete retard when it somes to scissors. I really need a guiltoine but that might be getting a bit too serious lol

The coin will fall down a bit. It can easily be tapped back to the centre though. That doesnt really bother me a whole heap. I keep all of my albums flat so they should move about too much.
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: accumulator on April 06, 2013, 12:32:11 AM
Very nice semi professional packaging Matt, newbies  would love them i reckon,very practical,not sticky crap,no staples,you can see both sides of the coin,all the works done for the collector & all they have to do is fork  out the $$'s  & slot it in there collection with no fuss at all.
I just showed the Mrs & you know how sheila's are, they like things neat & tidy so she reckons your on a winner there.:good:
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: ausjack on April 06, 2013, 08:39:03 AM
I think it looks really good but can't really comment as I don't buy from ebay but i can see what the others are saying and it's hard to say what the buyer wants as we all know some people will buy anything from the roughest pic you'll see so I think it will be a trial and error..if the coins look good and well packed, then yes I'd try and remember the seller.

It looks that good att that I'm gonna send you about 2000 coins to do up for me :mocking: that's why I just put mine in 2x2's and leave them..my writing is not so good so I think it's better that way :)
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: robbiegal on April 06, 2013, 09:27:25 AM
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='11443' dateline='1365170059'I printed 15 squares onto an A4 piece of paper and cut them out. Its a bit rough because im a complete retard when it somes to scissors. I really need a guiltoine but that might be getting a bit too serious lol

The coin will fall down a bit. It can easily be tapped back to the centre though. That doesnt really bother me a whole heap. I keep all of my albums flat so they should move about too much.

you could just have both texts on the top of the square
i use the flips a lot and the coins do fall or roll
that is why i mostly seal across the flip
it makes the coin stay put but then i cram my text to one side

yes, i think too that the small 2c etc won't move much but the penny certainly does!
and yep, you made me think about the albums and i do have mine upright - again maybe why my coins slide a bit

you can get paper cutters from kmart - i saw a very nice solid looking one the other day and might go back and buy one and i think it was only about $14
and they are nifty for cutting photographic paper as well

again, i reckon your set up looks very swish

ps a collector who I know prints a whole A4 page with the squares - has the coin type etc on that page inside each square
then he laminates that page and has it sitting behind the coin pages in a sleeve
he collects sets so it all flows for him
a lot of work but gee it looks flash - fussy collectors  certainly know how to present the coins

mine are a lot messier!! ha ha

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='11453' dateline='1365199743'I think it looks really good but can't really comment as I don't buy from ebay but i can see what the others are saying and it's hard to say what the buyer wants as we all know some people will buy anything from the roughest pic you'll see so I think it will be a trial and error..if the coins look good and well packed, then yes I'd try and remember the seller.

It looks that good att that I'm gonna send you about 2000 coins to do up for me :mocking: that's why I just put mine in 2x2's and leave them..my writing is not so good so I think it's better that way :)

my hubby has one of those hand held labellers
you type in the details and it prints out a little strip

i can't figure out the thing or get the little strips to separate from the backing strip
so nah, i don't use it
the hubby does and his 2x2's flips and eagle mounts look very neat
whereas, i have silver or gold texta to label my black eagle mounts and yeah, it looks  a bit tacky but it gets the job done!
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: trout on April 06, 2013, 11:21:56 AM
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='11441' dateline='1365166599'What is it that makes it look like an attempt at a TPG?

It's just that this looks so much like the Canadian early ICCS stuff.

They do look great but you would still have to remove them from the album to see the other side of the coin.

As you are going to so much trouble with these I would suggest that you get a few different sized hole punches from a craft/hardware store and cut a round hole in your insert so that you can view the coin fully in your albums and it will keep the coin centralised :ok:

As far a buying coins , I actually like to see the hand written 2x2's because after a while I get to recognise the style on different graders.

I have tried the saplips and they are a fantastic product but the 2x2's do it for me because I can just write on them and put them in my albums.

:off_topic:
Those ancient coins you sent me arrived while I was away, Shall I soak them in olive oil to clean ? so I can attribute them .
They look so interesting, You have just doubled my ancients collection:yahoo:
Thanks Matty Much appreciated :dance2:
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: robbiegal on April 06, 2013, 11:36:25 AM
true
you can't see through the white insert
i use them and yep - have to remove the holder to check out the coin
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: Goldseeker on April 06, 2013, 08:04:54 PM
One reason I like the DANSCO Supreme albums.   Both sides of the coin can be seen without remaving anything.
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: enworb on April 06, 2013, 08:48:13 PM
I dont think you can fully appreciate any coin in an album unless you take it out. Thats why having only one side visible doesnt phase me. When i pull my folders out to have a look i enjoy getting each coin out.
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: Possie Ron on April 07, 2013, 08:18:06 AM
Just a comment but I saw mention of guillotine cutting. May I suggest a look at paper trimmers first.Easier to use more accurate and safer. Hobby type units like this are great. A little demo here. Dont mind the maths chatter Aussie units are metric, but demonstrates using a trimmer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB4NPogAu5I. As a small book and magazine restorer I have a larger unit for cutting capacity. 30 pages at a time. I bought mine long ago. I was surprised at the current price when I just looked it up for reference. But still only does the same job basically. Hobby trimmers are available from $15-$20 or so. I have this model Carl.
http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Office-Supplies/Stationery/Cutting/Trimmers/GE0725
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: Fulvio on April 07, 2013, 04:59:11 PM
I abandoned eBay years ago, but prior to that, I got a very wide range of packaging and presentation from different sellers, and yes, it made a difference. As others have noted, its nice to see some care put into it, and leaves a positive impression.

However I wouldn't mention it in the description or the photos. As others have said, its the coin we want to see, not the wrapping. Presentation is just a little extra customer satisfaction, not a selling point to try and entice new clients.

I've tried these flips, and prefer 2x2's. Mainly because using them as intended won't work for me. I ended up putting two coins in them and sticking them into album pages so the coins couldn't fall out.

One thing I'd be concerned about for long-term storage is the paper insert. I'd be worried about the paper and ink not being acid-free. You may want to look into that for archival.
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: enworb on April 07, 2013, 05:18:24 PM
You will notice that the paper is in the opposite side of the flip fulvio. No way its going to impact the coin there. Trout; i have something else on the way which will in turn be on the way to you. You just have to swear it will be left in its current shell.
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: trout on April 07, 2013, 05:24:37 PM
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='11587' dateline='1365320904'You will notice that the paper is in the opposite side of the flip fulvio. No way its going to impact the coin there. Trout; i have something else on the way which will in turn be on the way to you. You just have to swear it will be left in its current shell.

:yahoo: A hermit Crab :dance2: I love them little suckers:yahoo:
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: markn on April 07, 2013, 07:58:33 PM
Looks very nice Matt.
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: Robster on April 09, 2013, 04:01:29 PM
Just received some Pennies fron Enworb packaged in the new and improved Saflip system. Well thought out and packaged.! Thanks.!!
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: WavyTwenty on April 18, 2013, 01:28:56 PM
Recieved mine in the mail - thanks for that!

Quote from: 'enworb' pid='11421' dateline='1365147352'1. Would you be more likely to buy a coin from ebay that has a photo of the coin, nicely presented in a flip?
In ebay it would be compulsory to show both the obverse and reverse of the coin.  Of course, you can take these pictures before you put it in a flip and seal it.  I don't see having pictures of the coin in a flip would make it more appealing to buy - give me raw pictures.

However, saying that you would post it in a heat sealed flip would be of an advantage, I think.

Quote from: 'enworb' pid='11421' dateline='1365147352'2. would you be more likely to remember that seller when a coin arrives and it is nicely packaged?
I think that this would be a big yes.  I haven't ever received a coin from ebay that was heat sealed in a flip.  It would make me more likely be to remember it.

Overall:
I can see the obverse, but are unable to see the reverse in the flip.  This would be a big down-er for me for my presentation folder as I like to show both sides of the coin.  

It would be good, though, for the coins where I want to preserve them as much as possible.  Knowing they are not exposed to air is a major plus.

Wavy20
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: trout on April 29, 2013, 03:40:54 PM
This arrived in the mail today :ok:
Is this what you are aiming for Matty, These look pretty good and if you take them out of the album the other side of the coin is visible.
They are sealed on the coin side of the flip :ok:
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Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: enworb on April 29, 2013, 03:44:21 PM
Thats exactly how mine look.
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: accumulator on April 29, 2013, 04:18:24 PM
someone copycatting already ? :diablo:   thats     :ebay:
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: Robster on April 29, 2013, 04:19:34 PM
I have just begun to convert all my die crack coins to the "Matty B" system- hope there is no copyright.!!:blush:
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: trout on April 29, 2013, 04:31:51 PM
There was nothing in the listing that suggested that the coins came holdered like this, It was a pleasant surprise and quite frankly I am impressed with the concept :good:
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: enworb on April 29, 2013, 04:32:33 PM
$5 per coin converted to the system. But thats mates rates for you rob.
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: Robster on April 29, 2013, 04:38:35 PM
Bazinga.! Just take it out of my "Showdown Winnings" :angel:
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: Goldseeker on April 29, 2013, 08:20:54 PM
Can somebody please show by pickies how the process was done from a blank/empty folder to that above.

The reason being is that I could get/be interested.
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: robbiegal on April 29, 2013, 08:38:52 PM
http://www.australian-threepence.com/blog/2009/10/heat-sealing-saflips-and-polypropylene-coin-pages.html

the sealer that I have is about 1/2 the size of that one
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: lacey on April 30, 2013, 08:04:12 PM
I've joined the exclusive club of saflip sealers, lol.  Just now waiting on my heat sealer to arrive. I have no idea how to seal the flaps and just hopeing I don't burnt the crap out of them.

I bought a stack of little cardboard inserts of PP as well.  I found them a bit hard to slip in and out of the flaps, so I cut about 2mm off one side.  Now they go in and out much better.
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: robbiegal on April 30, 2013, 08:07:34 PM
g'day possum :winkextra:

the heat sealer has a little dial
just sacrifice one or two safflips and try different settings out on them
mine seems to work well on about 4
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: enworb on April 30, 2013, 08:14:03 PM
I sacrificed about 50 SAFLIPS before i realised the best way to do it lol
Title: RE: Got my heat sealer and started changing my collection layout
Post by: robbiegal on April 30, 2013, 08:17:18 PM
ha ha
at least you got there mate