Bad luck if you want to send coins or notes internationally and comply with the regulations!
This nonsense is verbatim from Australia Post's International Post Guide,
"1.4.1 â€" Prohibition of bullion, bank notes and coins
Australia Post prohibits bullion, bank notes and coins in all international postal articles â€" this includes
all Australian notes of whatever issue or denomination, the bank notes or currency notes of any
other country and coins in either Australian or foreign currency and includes coins made from
precious metals whether or not such coins have a denomination. This prohibition applies even if the
destination country accepts valuables."
The RAM Mint Shop offers international delivery. I wonder if they use any Australia Post services for that?
Jeff
most australian coin dealers use australian post for overseas sales and their buisness is roughly 80% international sales other wise they would all be out of buisness if they depended on aust sales only ..
so if we all abide by them rules from au post , then god help us all..
also as jeff says , how does the 2 aust mints , and note printing au get on with their international postages ..??
,, kel ,,
I think we would have to ignore the regulations if we wanted to send coin overseas by Australia Post
This hasn't changed recently? I guess I shouldn't feel bad for adhering to the rule of non-documents in letters if you just shouldn't post coins anyway. You can't win.
I dont think youre meant to send coins within Australia either.
QuoteI dont think youre meant to send coins within Australia either.
Within Australia is allowable as long as amount does not exceed $200 and it is registered.
From DANGEROUS & PROHIBITED GOODS & PACKAGING POST GUIDE;
"D3.2â€"Banknotes and Coins
Banknotes are currency notes that are legal tender in the country of issue. Australian notes of
whatever age, currency or denomination are legal tender within Australia.
Coins are coinage in either Australian or foreign currency and includes coins made from precious
metals whether or not such coins have a denomination.
Australia Post prohibits banknotes or currency notes and coins:
♦in the International Post
♦in all services within Australia except Registered Post.
In Registered Post within Australia, Australia Post accepts banknotes or coins to a maximum face
value of $A200 in any one consignment. However, Australia Post accepts no liability for the loss of
or damage to any such notes or coins.
D3.3â€"Bullion
Bullion is lump or bulk metal, pure or impure, refined or unrefined. Bullion includes ingots but
excludes manufactured items, such as jewellery.
Australia Post prohibits bullion in all services. "[/b]
Jeff
There is a four letter word for this type of thing...starts with "C" and ends with "p".
lalalal cant hear you lalala :P
I have done a little more study of the International Postage Guidelines to try and clarify what is a "letter". I post small quantities of coins as letters in Australia but my local Post Office told me I can't do that for international. WRONG![/color] (I hope). The guidelines actually say that a letter containing valuables or other than documents must have a customs declaration attached. Letters containing only documents do not need a declaration.
I have been posting coins as parcels when they would easily have fitted into letter size and weight restrictions.
My PO never mentioned that AP bans sending coins so, I am going to test the system. I have just sold an assortment of Malayian and Borneo coins and they are to be repatriated to Malaysia. So I have quoted letter rate to send them; they weigh less than 100g packed. Air mail letter is $4.50 and minimum parcel rate is $11.90. Big difference for a $12.50 sale.
I will advise how it goes.
Jeff
PS. Maximum small letter size is 130x240x5mm, weighing less than 250g. Nobody makes an envelope this size. I cut C4 envelopes in two across the centre, trim and fold a flap at the cut edge and -Hey Presto- two envelopes at 129x229mm. I can fit 12 x 50¢ coins in plastic sheath, between two pieces of card for just 60¢ postage.
PPS. I had a spat with the local PO a few years ago about weights. My package was less than the weight for a particular rate but, they put all the paperwork on it that they said was required and then weighed it again...2 grams into the next weight category and several more dollars requested. I pointed out their form asked them to record "net weight" and refused to pay more (I had already stamped the package).
Postmaster (spat had escalated to highest, local level by then) said they would send it but I should expect to have it returned with a request for extra postage plus a penalty fee. Arrived safely in USA about 12 days later. Put whatever moral you like to this anecdote.
I send coins all the time.... They just go as medallions and thus insurance. Banknotes are manuscripts and I durable as well. AP sends coins mail order and break the $200 rule all the time... Unless they are referring to face value. Regardless I have made insurance claim of more than a few hundred on coins sent registered with insurance.
Heartening to hear that Shane. I have been told it gets through like that but, so far. only hearsay from where I sit.
Thanks,
Jeff
JEFF i never quote coins on the customs form ,
i always send coins overseas in a christmas or birthday card, and i declare it as a gift on my custom form and i have never had any trouble getting through , never , i must add , watch the weight
and i only put 2 large coins in one ,. or if coins are small like shillings or six pence then i will put in 3 or 4,... ,, kel ,,
I always simply put numismatic items on the form and send as a gift.
I have NEVER had a coin/coins not reach its destination.
I did however send one parcel with tracking that arrived and was signed for but the receiver denied getting it.
THAT is a whole different story though:dodgy:
:off_topic::off_topic::off_topic: Apologies
Completely off topic but here I go. Bought some plastic ziplock baggies the other day with free postage. Item arrives weighing 1.2kg in prepaid 500g satchel and no return address. Domestic postage. I am waiting for an AP fine which will be on me as I was the only address on the package. And my PO gets narky if a package is just a few grams over. I know now to go to a different PO if I have a package that might be over on their scales. I am lucky I have a choice of 5 PO's in my vicinity.
My nearest "Post Shop" (franchise) is about 1.5km away. Nearest actual AP outlet is 30km away and next nearest is 115 km away (but a few other franchise shops a little closer, in the opposite direction).
Wonder how that stacks up against trout's situation?
Jeff
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='9954' dateline='1363590730'My nearest "Post Shop" (franchise) is about 1.5km away. Nearest actual AP outlet is 30km away and next nearest is 115 km away (but a few other franchise shops a little closer, in the opposite direction).
Wonder how that stacks up against trout's situation?
Jeff
We must be neighbors Mate :yahoo:
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='9953' dateline='1363590327':off_topic::off_topic::off_topic: Apologies
Completely off topic but here I go. Bought some plastic ziplock baggies the other day with free postage. Item arrives weighing 1.2kg in prepaid 500g satchel and no return address. Domestic postage. I am waiting for an AP fine which will be on me as I was the only address on the package. And my PO gets narky if a package is just a few grams over. I know now to go to a different PO if I have a package that might be over on their scales. I am lucky I have a choice of 5 PO's in my vicinity.
I NEVER have a problem with my PO.
I get my mail,beers,smokes and fuel from the same place.
Also they are coin collectors as well :dance2:
That sounds like a great establishment!
Nothing like the old "One Stop Shop".!