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Title: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Goldseeker on March 14, 2013, 12:50:20 PM
I went noodling today and got this one (This is only my third find of this type in searching 2.48 million coins):-

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Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Mister T on March 14, 2013, 12:54:34 PM
I found one of these pretty recently too (same orientation), but mine looks UNC or close to it.
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Nevol on March 14, 2013, 01:26:18 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='9509' dateline='1363227620'I went noodling today and got this one (This is only my third find of this type in searching 2.48 million coins):-
Nice find Goldie! :yahoo:
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Robster on March 14, 2013, 04:24:36 PM
2.48 million coins.!!! No wonder he is Upset.!!!
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: trout on March 14, 2013, 04:27:56 PM
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='9532' dateline='1363240476'2.48 million coins.!!! No wonder he is Upset.!!!

:laugh2::laugh2:
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Ozcoins on March 14, 2013, 07:39:40 PM
Nice find!
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Goldseeker on March 14, 2013, 08:20:04 PM
Thanks for your comments.   I think it is the first of this find in over four years.
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: ausjack on March 14, 2013, 11:35:26 PM
Gee long time between drinks GS

and where did you get 2.48 Rob as the ram site http://www.ramint.gov.au/designs/ram-designs/1dollar.cfm and books say 26.2 :good:
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Possie Ron on March 15, 2013, 07:50:58 AM
Nice find.
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: ausjack on March 15, 2013, 09:53:27 AM
Please don't think I'm rude Ron but I'll try and save you a lot of time and every thing else as ya sort of wastin ya time with them..you'll find if you take something like them to a dealer they laugh at you and tell you to put them back in the pond..I've found this out the hard way after collecting all low mintages for quite a few years and had to put a few K back in the pond as it's not worth havin rubbish takin up space of a good coin that could gain a little so hence I started again and now only take things that are rare or in really good nick. Only tryin to help mate so sorry if I sound harsh.
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Australian coin on March 15, 2013, 09:59:37 AM
aww its ok ***we all have to start somewhere*** and collecting circulated coins in my change is where I started too!
then you find a coin in better condition and swap it over [upgrading]
tho don't think that you are going to strike it rich with circulated coins unless it the $1 mule.
I think its good collecting the picture $1 circulated coins, that was the fist set I completed
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: trout on March 15, 2013, 10:00:40 AM
I tend to keep every interesting coinI find in my change Ron, rare or not :good:
I have a couple if icecream containers full of ods and sods of decimal coins simply because I feel they are too good to shove into a coke machine:angel:
I certainaly didn't pay a premium for them and they can fill in a dull day when the postie brings me nothing :dash1:
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: ausjack on March 15, 2013, 10:11:29 AM
See, taken the wrong way..pluck it. I meant don't get caught like I did where you have like $100 of one sort..just collecting one of each is ok but not tones and tones when that money could go to a better coin, i'm just about to have the same problem with my notes as I've got heaps od AA $50 but the other day they told me I was wastin me time so I'm at the bloody X roads again..what to do what to do :scratch_one-s_head:

:diablo: OOOOOOO so I can say naughty words here 'cause I didn't put pluck and the original word come up..what a cack the first site where I haven't been full on filtered :yahoo:

See lucky I'm :angel:
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Possie Ron on March 15, 2013, 10:17:48 AM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='9611' dateline='1363304489'See, taken the wrong way..pluck it. I meant don't get caught like I did where you have like $100 of one sort..just collecting one of each is ok but not tones and tones when that money could go to a better coin, i'm just about to have the same problem with my notes as I've got heaps od AA $50 but the other day they told me I was wastin me time so I'm at the bloody X roads again..what to do what to do :scratch_one-s_head:

Thanks Mark. advice appreciated. But I am an old age pensioner. Just putting a $1 coin aside for interest is a strain on the budget.
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: ausjack on March 15, 2013, 10:25:23 AM
I'm not old age but think us pensioners have got to stick together and try and help each other out..even if only advice that I find very useful as that could have saved me a lot of suffin around and sameas the bloody PVC sheets that I wasted a heap of money on.
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: trout on March 15, 2013, 10:30:53 AM
Every coin that is put aside is actualy saving money.
If at the end of the day you look at them and think "why did I keep this junk" you can always take them to the bank .
You would be amazed how much $$$$ are in a simple icecream container full of change :ok:
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Possie Ron on March 15, 2013, 10:39:10 AM
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Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='9616' dateline='1363305323'I'm not old age but think us pensioners have got to stick together and try and help each other out..even if only advice that I find very useful as that could have saved me a lot of suffin around and sameas the bloody PVC sheets that I wasted a heap of money on.

I realy do appreciate the comments. Here are a couple of things I just put aside years ago.
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: ausjack on March 15, 2013, 10:39:56 AM
do you know how long it takes me to get an icecream container full when the $1 & 2 coins go to the phone bill :dontknow: but it's a long time :winkextra:

Nice weak strike on the 1 Ron :)
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Possie Ron on March 15, 2013, 10:56:45 AM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='9620' dateline='1363306196'do you know how long it takes me to get an icecream container full when the $1 & 2 coins go to the phone bill :dontknow: but it's a long time :winkextra:


Nice weak strike on the 1 Ron :)

2 of them which do you prefer.
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: ausjack on March 15, 2013, 11:20:41 AM
That's a tough one..maybe the one on the left looks a little better..I'm still learning sorry, but don't think I'll ever stop as there's just so much and something new every day :)
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Goldseeker on March 15, 2013, 08:42:52 PM
Ausjack:   I have searched a total of 2.48 million $1 coins to find only three of these upsets.   I am not saying that the mintage for this coin is 2.46 million.
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: ausjack on March 15, 2013, 11:10:09 PM
Sorry GS, I missunderstood :friends: that's a bloody lot of coin mate..how are ya eyes :shock: but $1 or better than those little 5's
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Goldseeker on March 16, 2013, 10:30:18 AM
I used to do a lot of $1 coin searches for the dreaded MULE.   I have found 39 Mules to date plus in  excess 450 2001 COF Upsets, which I am now selling off on EBay.

I have found many flaking coins as well.

They all look good but now I am selling some off to ghet funds for our next voyage.
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Ozcoins on March 17, 2013, 12:01:54 AM
*****,
I disagree.
Many people sell off some or all of thier collections at some point.
Who are you or I to say if the reason is "good enough"?
At the very least goldie has "rescued" many coins from getting further beaten up in circulation.
You could also look at his selling items at doing a service as he is letting people get hold of things they want
Each to thier own....
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: enworb on March 17, 2013, 12:05:36 AM
Coin dealers and people who sell their collections do the hobby a great service. Without them we wouldnt have any coins other than those we can personally find from circulation.
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Goldseeker on March 17, 2013, 10:26:29 AM
I can take the criticism being handed out.   I am an old hand and have a tough skin.

I have that many coins I am running out of storage space so I am selling some coins off.   Do I really need 450 plus 2001 COF Upsets.   The simple answer is no.   After all I have put a clockface of upsets together with nine other error/variety coins in a specially prepared display that is on exhibit at the RAM in Canberra as part of the one in a million display.

Having a complete UNC Set of Decimal coins from 1966 to present day, a set of circulating pre decimal set from 1910 to 1965, and trying to keep up with all the silver $1 coins, PNC's etc, it all costs money and I am running out of room.

It is my collection and I will do what I want to do with it.
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Fordprefect on March 17, 2013, 10:31:40 AM
Good reply GS :angel:
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: ausjack on March 17, 2013, 11:20:14 AM
Agreed, and WOW GS that's pretty cool that your coins are on display and at the mint to boot, doubt any of mine will be but good on ya mate :good:
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Goldseeker on March 17, 2013, 11:46:06 AM
Yes, it's the second time this has happened.   The first was when the one in a million exhibit was on display in Melbourne several years ago.

My coins even made it onto TV when the Channel 10 weather man, Mike Larkin did his mid news weather forecast as he was standing adjacent to my coins.

The one in a million display was for coins that got "errored" whilst minting and the RAM coins that were on display were from the RAM's Museum.   All my coins were taken from circulation.  

When the wife and I went down to the CBD here in Melbourne, I was amazed at the interest shown by the viewers of my coins.   Made my chest puffed out a little more.
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: keldaw on March 17, 2013, 02:53:33 PM
go get him goldie , your coins , your money , your decision ,.

 *****, you say wrong to sell coins and not buy better coins with the money , ok fair enough , your call .

 but lets just say , a person has a good collection of coins , [ or anything else for that matter ,] and his hobby get stale and he wants to forget all about his coin collection hobby and start on something like gem stones or wood carving, well if he dont sell his coins , then what is he supposed to do with them ..?????

  each to his own ,i say ..    ,, kel ,,
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: markn on March 17, 2013, 03:02:39 PM
I've deleted a post from this thread that was quite distasteful.  Goldy is a long-time contributor to this hobby and extremely well known, what he chooses to do with his collection and why is entirely his decision.  Please refrain from further personal comments.
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: ausjack on March 17, 2013, 03:38:07 PM
Tis all good, we're all friends :friends: I find my self in the exact spot that Kel was talking about and especially after not being able to work and having my super disapear as I haven't been able to put in so it's pretty much gone actually so what I collect is it and the biggest thing was actually rehab as that's what they tell you to do if you can't work "make money from your hobbies" well this is what they say but it is so much easier said than done..so lets be good to our selves and each other :give_rose:

And I appologise if I get carried away some time, please forgive me  :beg:
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: trout on March 17, 2013, 07:14:14 PM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='9850' dateline='1363494759'I've deleted a post from this thread that was quite distasteful.  Goldy is a long-time contributor to this hobby and extremely well known, what he chooses to do with his collection and why is entirely his decision.  Please refrain from further personal comments.

No worries .
Sorry Goldy I got a bit carried away, please accept my apology.
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: keldaw on March 17, 2013, 07:24:27 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='9870' dateline='1363509854'
Quote from: 'markn' pid='9850' dateline='1363494759'I've deleted a post from this thread that was quite distasteful.  Goldy is a long-time contributor to this hobby and extremely well known, what he chooses to do with his collection and why is entirely his decision.  Please refrain from further personal comments.

No worries .
Sorry Goldy I got a bit carried away, please accept my apology.
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  tis all good trout .takes a real man to admit he is out of line ..
 good on ya mate .  well done . ,.. ,, kel ,,
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Goldseeker on March 17, 2013, 09:22:29 PM
Not a problem   No offence was taken.   Apology accepted.
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Fulvio on March 24, 2013, 11:29:51 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='9617' dateline='1363305653'Every coin that is put aside is actualy saving money.
If at the end of the day you look at them and think "why did I keep this junk" you can always take them to the bank .
You would be amazed how much $$$$ are in a simple icecream container full of change :ok:

Precisely.

Since my eye troubles began, I completely stopped looking at coins, but kept throwing them into odd containers in anticipation of things improving. Well, they haven't, the latest blow being a retinal detachment.

Anyway, today after the nurse left, I was sitting out in the sun, and on a whim decided to grab some containers and weed out obvious "junk" to drop off at the bank on the way to the hospital tomorrow. A couple of hours later, when my eyes gave out on me, I'd ended up with a shopping bag full of rejects.. $760 worth!

And while I didn't really look at the "keepers", I did spot three delaminated planchets and a handful of cuds. Plus a really gorgeous aUNC 1997 $1 which sadly has a green patch on the wing just below the "MI". :(

Maybe I'll do this again next time I get bored. :)
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Goldseeker on March 25, 2013, 03:52:21 PM
Nice to hear from you again Fulvio, it has been ages since you last posted.

Hope your eyes get better and you start going through all those bagged coins you have.
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Fulvio on March 25, 2013, 11:49:51 PM
Thanks Goldy.

Sadly, they're not going to get better, only worse. Seems the combination of cataract surgery and diabetes is not good. When you add in the vitreous detachment from old age, that produces tears in the retina. The fix is to spot weld around the tear to stop it ripping any further, but there is a very high probability of additional tears over time, and a better than even chance of blindness should the retina detach completely. This is all happening in the right eye, which is the one set to infinity. The left one is deliberately short-sighted so I can read/compute, and things would get complicated if the right one went out completely. No more driving for starters...

That explains the lack of coin activity. As for not posting here, its a little more complicated. I am *really* not a fan of forums. I use them, and run a couple, but I don't like them, especially the having to specifically log in and wade through stuff. I'm MUCH more inclined towards the G+ model, and have been permanently logged in there since it started, and active in about a dozen communities, spanning photography, computers, railroading, a few games and various clubs I belong to. I even considered joining the Coins Community, but its a little too global for my liking... perhaps if a few aussies showed up we could build an Aussie Coins Community there. If you haven't had a look yet, the Melbourne Photowalkers Community is a good place to start, with 450-odd active members: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/105126374019303064464

And finally, the bagged coins... I've been giving these a lot of thought lately. I'm not sure what I'm going to do. Half of me says sell everything before you go blind, the other half says make an effort to get back into noodling through thousands of coins a day like I used to. I really don't know which way to go, or what third options may be viable... perhaps I should look at enhanced vision systems... a decent microscope hooked up to a huge screen maybe... I dunno...
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: ausjack on March 26, 2013, 07:38:07 AM
So very sorry to hear all this Fulvio, this is also something I have to look forward to as there's all that in the DNA and oldtimers so just play while we can mate is about all we can do..but I truly hope they come up with something new as there's gonna be more and more of us need these things..all my best mate and hope you don't get too much pain with it as I know how much fun it is to be in it for long periods..but still here and that's what counts so hang in there mate :friends:

And I agree about the log in all the time but it does seem to keep some of the riff raff out and as I'm a bit slow now I need the help so I don't get ripped..there are some turds around but then also some really nice people that tent to make up for a lot of the bad :good:
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: trout on March 26, 2013, 09:05:06 AM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='10659' dateline='1364217591'Thanks Goldy.

Sadly, they're not going to get better, only worse. Seems the combination of cataract surgery and diabetes is not good. When you add in the vitreous detachment from old age, that produces tears in the retina. The fix is to spot weld around the tear to stop it ripping any further, but there is a very high probability of additional tears over time, and a better than even chance of blindness should the retina detach completely. This is all happening in the right eye, which is the one set to infinity. The left one is deliberately short-sighted so I can read/compute, and things would get complicated if the right one went out completely. No more driving for starters...

That explains the lack of coin activity. As for not posting here, its a little more complicated. I am *really* not a fan of forums. I use them, and run a couple, but I don't like them, especially the having to specifically log in and wade through stuff. I'm MUCH more inclined towards the G+ model, and have been permanently logged in there since it started, and active in about a dozen communities, spanning photography, computers, railroading, a few games and various clubs I belong to. I even considered joining the Coins Community, but its a little too global for my liking... perhaps if a few aussies showed up we could build an Aussie Coins Community there. If you haven't had a look yet, the Melbourne Photowalkers Community is a good place to start, with 450-odd active members: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/105126374019303064464

And finally, the bagged coins... I've been giving these a lot of thought lately. I'm not sure what I'm going to do. Half of me says sell everything before you go blind, the other half says make an effort to get back into noodling through thousands of coins a day like I used to. I really don't know which way to go, or what third options may be viable... perhaps I should look at enhanced vision systems... a decent microscope hooked up to a huge screen maybe... I dunno...

Sorry to hear about your eyesight Folvio.
My Peep's are also going downhill, I use a USB microscope every time I get a new coin.
These things are amazing and you can get them cheap as chips on eBay.
You simply plug them into a USB port,load the driver software and you DO get a full screen image of your coins:yahoo:
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Ozcoins on March 26, 2013, 09:21:26 AM
Fulvio,
I  am so sorry to hear about your eyesight.
If you enjoy noodling,  I reckon do it whIle you can.
Also take advantage of the fact thst you know what is coming,  by preparing for it.
Learn the accessibility options on the computer while you can and get things like a camera connected to a tv set up asap so you have plenty of time to learn to get the best from them.
I hope you sight holds out as long as possible
Title: RE: Upset Sir Henry Parkes 41
Post by: Fulvio on March 26, 2013, 09:56:45 PM
Thanks guys. We're all quite lucky that while age brings these problems, technology also helps deal with them. If this all happened a couple of decades ago, I'd be blind now, but the advances in laser surgery are simply amazing. And I've had feedback from some friends who were in trials of new diabetes drugs which worked wonders, and may be an option for me, especially if I keep turning in readings in the 17's.

I looked at USB microscopes back when a couple of you first started playing with them, but they were expensive and not very good. Clearly its time for another look though, because whether I keep going or sell up, I'm going to need to know what I've got, right?

Anyway, sorry about hijacking the thread. :(