I'm not convinced about it being a genuine minting error but can't think of how it's otherwise been done ??
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/251235844425?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1288
that coin is weird
one for PP and Markn
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I'd say it's PMD and the 'story' about it on eBay is just a feeble fable.
Yes I'd have to agree about the story as I doubt your job be worth a threepence if you got caught..but then you never know :)
5 cents sorry :angel:
So the dead step pop worked there in some time from 66 to 84 going off the effigy
I thought the same but did'nt want to be too critical just incase the toss is true.
Mark, i see your around at the moment, what are your thoughts about this coin ?
it looks like a genuine error to me.
I have absolutly NO idea how this happened but I have never seen a shed job like this.
The detail is sort of squished to one side of the coin.
Not worth $99 of my money tho.
Quote from: 'accumulator' pid='9270' dateline='1362971471'Mark, i see your around at the moment, what are your thoughts about this coin ?
Haven't commented because I am not sure. I'm fairly certain it's PMD of some kind. Perhaps using leather on one side of the coin while it was squashed in a press which has preserved some of the detail of the coin when it was extruded. But I am not certain.
I think rather than thinking of how it could have been produced after minting it is worth thinking about how it could have been made as part of the minting process. I cannot think of any way that the coin could have been struck like that and for that reason im going with PMD on this one.
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='9278' dateline='1362974973'I think rather than thinking of how it could have been produced after minting it is worth thinking about how it could have been made as part of the minting process. I cannot think of any way that the coin could have been struck like that and for that reason im going with PMD on this one.
That's a good point. I think Occam's Razor can be applied in this case.
PMD or error it is probably worth $10 as a conversation piece anyway:angel:
I think the only way this could have happened in the mint is if the coin got jammed in the press and pulled out with pliers or such.
If it is a shed job, at least it shows a bit of creativity .
Quote from: 'markn' pid='9279' dateline='1362975203'Quote from: 'enworb' pid='9278' dateline='1362974973'I think rather than thinking of how it could have been produced after minting it is worth thinking about how it could have been made as part of the minting process. I cannot think of any way that the coin could have been struck like that and for that reason im going with PMD on this one.
That's a good point. I think Occam's Razor can be applied in this case.
That's Logical.:exclamation:
I think the only part of that coin that points towards a genuine error is the distorted reverse design in the defect and the shape of the defect. In any case it's awfully damaged and is that press damage or roadkill/shed job damage? If it were a genuine error then the obverse behind the reverse defect should be better struck. I can however imagine that this mangled coin ended up stuck in the bottom of the press covered in oil and metal shavings and was found when the press was dismantled for scrap.
I am also out to lunch on the genuine error status of this coin.
I am also out to lunch on the genuine error status of this coin.
I am convinced that this isn't a "Shed job".
I would imagine that this monstrosity is a result of a malfunction with the press and has been swept up with the other detritus around the press on a clean up and simply tossed into the coin bin by a mint employee.
IF it comes up again I will offer the seller $50 for it and donate it to ACF as a perpetual trophy for the most inspiring post for the year:yahoo:
IF it is genuine it is unique, IF it is a shed job it is unique as well.
Either way it would look great mounted on a trophy for the most inspiring post for the year :good:
If it were to become a perpetual trophy the discussion could continue as we all got to review the coin in hand. Often this is the only way to see some of the important deciding factors such as the presence of fishtailing.
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='9300' dateline='1362985246'If it were to become a perpetual trophy the discussion could continue as we all got to review the coin in hand. Often this is the only way to see some of the important deciding factors such as the presence of fishtailing.
Sounds like a good plan to me PP :good:
Quote from: 'trout' pid='9299' dateline='1362984982'I am also out to lunch on the genuine error status of this coin.
I am convinced that this isn't a "Shed job".
I would imagine that this monstrosity is a result of a malfunction with the press and has been swept up with the other detritus around the press on a clean up and simply tossed into the coin bin by a mint employee.
IF it comes up again I will offer the seller $50 for it and donate it to ACF as a perpetual trophy for the most inspiring post for the year:yahoo:
IF it is genuine it is unique, IF it is a shed job it is unique as well.
Either way it would look great mounted on a trophy for the most inspiring post for the year :good:
Honestly trout you'd be better off spending $50 on an error with no dispute as to it's authenticity.
Honestly trout you'd be better off spending $50 on an error with no dispute as to it's authenticity.
To be quite honest Mark I am not "into" errors, I prefer my coins as good as I can get them. :dance2:
This coin/abortion however has the potential to be "intresting" simply because NONE of us has a definitve answer to why it is the way it is:yahoo:
I have made the seller an offer and if accepted I will donate the item as a trophy for this site :good:
I recon make it a Monthly aword and after a while we WILL know for sure what this coin is all about :yahoo:
Just got an email from the seller that this has been sold already :dash1:
Now we will never know, bugger