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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Banknotes => Topic started by: Pedro on March 05, 2013, 06:55:04 AM

Title: aUNC/UNC
Post by: Pedro on March 05, 2013, 06:55:04 AM
There seems to be a trend for notes for sale on Ebay being described as aUNC/UNC. I am struggling with the concept, can somebody please help?

Pedro
Title: RE: aUNC/UNC
Post by: ausjack on March 05, 2013, 08:35:52 AM
Hey Pedro, the only things I can think of are 1 the usual "you grade" from pic (starting to annoy me if they put that) or 2 they're like me and wouldn't have a clue and 3 also like me and got brand new ones straight from the bank, I have a few that don't have any marks at all and even a few in sequence. But besides that, no idea sorry mate :) Oh # 4..they're just liers and scammers out to rip off :(


these I would call aunc and notice the white ring around the out side of the mud map of ACT, 06 $5 is the only one's I've really noticed it on
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2n0iudx.jpg)
the ad $10 is that good you can still see the #'s thru the back so it might go unc
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2lvl63q.jpg)
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2d7791h.jpg)
Title: RE: aUNC/UNC
Post by: ausjack on March 05, 2013, 09:45:16 AM
Here's a close up of the back of the AD $10, it's hard gettin a pic of it but I hope you can make it out..so would it be aunc/unc? (http://i50.tinypic.com/35celva.jpg)
(http://i47.tinypic.com/4vmrzk.jpg) I like it :)
Title: RE: aUNC/UNC
Post by: Bigfellani5 on March 05, 2013, 05:13:50 PM
The concept is one side is better than the other. IMHO something is as good as its worst side
Title: RE: aUNC/UNC
Post by: ausjack on March 05, 2013, 05:46:07 PM
Hey BF just thinkin and could it be that they're usless like me with grading so saying it's some where between aunc and unc..I do a similar thing as I'm crap at grading :dash1:
Title: RE: aUNC/UNC
Post by: Fr45h3R on March 05, 2013, 06:09:42 PM
UNC notes are only truly UNC when they are Crisp Flat and Uncirculated, and the difference between aUNC and UNC can be as little as a slight teller flick at the bank. (And also a massive difference in price when dealing with older / rarer notes)

Putting aUNC / UNC might just be a way the seller is saying that whilst the notes appear UNC, i'll err on the side of caution mention that they might not actually be.

I couldn't really see how a note could be graded on each side like coins ?
Title: RE: aUNC/UNC
Post by: ausjack on March 05, 2013, 06:46:13 PM
the one's above I'd say aunc/unc and this is aunc as it as a crease across the corner of the 10
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2yy731u.jpg)

Sweet, just noticed that the last 4 didgets in the bottom right serial # are lower than the rest..look at the line the 3 is on and then the 2 :dance:
Title: RE: aUNC/UNC
Post by: Pedro on March 05, 2013, 07:47:26 PM
These days where I see aUNC/UNC I assume that the note is aUNC (given that it is pretty much nigh on impossible to tell from a photo what faults may be present). Doesn't mean I get the cookies often but at least I'm more comfortable when deciding what to bid.

It is also not uncommon to see notes being advertised as UNC but where the seller advises that there is a centre fold.

Pedro
Title: RE: aUNC/UNC
Post by: ausjack on March 05, 2013, 07:58:50 PM
So what do you think of this lot Pedro ?
Title: RE: aUNC/UNC
Post by: Pedro on March 05, 2013, 10:00:04 PM
Ausjack, the notes look great in the photos but very hard to tell from the photos if there are any issues with them - nothing like having the notes in your hands to give them a good once over for those tricky teller flicks and lighter crease lines that are often not visible with notes that are photographed flat.

With Ebay you do have to place some trust in the seller so sometimes you win, sometimes you don't do so well but over time you can generally build up an idea who the better sellers are.

As you say the $10 has that creased area which would put it in the aUNC bracket. Otherwise my poor eyes are not picking up any flaws in the other notes from the photos!  

Pedro
Title: RE: aUNC/UNC
Post by: ausjack on March 05, 2013, 10:18:43 PM
Cool, thanks mate. I actually find it harder to take good pic's of notes but I find both are hard :dash1:
Title: RE: aUNC/UNC
Post by: keldaw on March 06, 2013, 10:10:33 AM
hi aj , just checking the colour on your 5 dollar notes

check  down the bottom , just above the buildings the colour is different on them , or is that just the pictures ?? ,, kel ,,

sorry man ,the 10 notes same thing around the bullock team . also colour there to , must be just the camera shot , but still worth checking ..  ,, kel ,,
Title: RE: aUNC/UNC
Post by: ausjack on March 06, 2013, 06:22:50 PM
Ah ha, finally someone says something..I noticed it and it's all good it's from the elcheapo scanner so no they're not fake :mocking:
Title: RE: aUNC/UNC
Post by: Goldseeker on March 07, 2013, 09:30:41 PM
I believe that the design of the notes is to make it harder for scanning or copying.   Maybe that is why scans are not the vbest regardless of how good you are.