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I decided I had way too many $1 2005 WWII error coins, so I sorted them out and what follows is the result.
This is the first 50 coins, and they all involve cuds on the face.

Under chin: 6
On chin: 9
Cheek: 8
Lip: 8
Cheek, Chin: 3
Cheek, Bottom Lip: 7
Cheek, Top Lip, Chin: 4
Cheek, Top Lip: 2
Cheek, on chin, under chin: 2
Bottom lip, Chin: 1

 Images follow showing the various locations and combinations, but not in the same order as the above list.  

$1 2005 WWII Obv C1- C3 Trio.jpg
(http://i48.tinypic.com/1jm9dx.jpg)
$1 2005 WWII Obv C1v1 Cheek, Chin, Chin,
$1 2005 WWII Obv C2v1 Cheek, Top Lip,
$1 2005 WWII Obv C3v1 Cheek, Top Lip, Chin, Chin,
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$1 2005 WWII Obv C10- C12 Trio.jpg
(http://i46.tinypic.com/353cpwm.jpg)
$1 2005 WWII Obv C4v1 Cheek, Top Lip, Chin,
$1 2005 WWII Obv C5v1 Lower Cheek, Chin,
$1 2005 WWII Obv C6v1 Upper Cheek, Chin,
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$1 2005 WWII Obv C13- C15 Trio.jpg
(http://i50.tinypic.com/149uvr7.jpg)
$1 2005 WWII Obv C7v1 Bottom Lip, Under Chin,
$1 2005 WWII Obv C8v1 Under Chin,
$1 2005 WWII Obv C9v1 Stitched Lips, Under Chin,
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$1 2005 WWII Obv C16 - C19 Multi.jpg
(http://i49.tinypic.com/feguo3.jpg)
$1 2005 WWII Obv C10v1 On Chin 1
$1 2005 WWII Obv C11v1 On Chin 2
$1 2005 WWII Obv C12v1 On Chin 3
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$1 2005 WWII Obv C4 - C6 Trio.jpg
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2mi2d80.jpg)
$1 2005 WWII Obv C13v1 On Chin 4
$1 2005 WWII Obv C14v1 Cheek, 1
$1 2005 WWII Obv C15v1 Cheek, 2
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$1 2005 WWII Obv C7- C9 Trio.jpg
(http://i49.tinypic.com/1zv7fp4.jpg)
$1 2005 WWII Obv C16v1 Cheek, 3
$1 2005 WWII Obv C17v1 Chin
$1 2005 WWII Obv C18v1 Stitched Lips, Bottom Lip
$1 2005 WWII Obv C19v1 Stitched Lip, Lower Cheek,
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Reverse errors will be added later.

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Finally have all my $1 Rim Cuds in one place, 64 of them.
SC stands for Same Coin so there are several of those; any number in brackets is how many of that coin I have.


Year Type Side From To mm
1995 MoR Obv 9.30 10.30 5
1996 Prk Obv 8.00 9.00 5
1997 Smt Rev 9.00 10.00 6
1999 O.Pr Rev 8.30 9.00 4
1999 O.Pr Rev 10.00 10.30 5 (2)
2001 CoF Obv 11.30 12.00 4 SC
2001 CoF Rev 10.30 11.00 5 SC
2001 Cof Rev 9.30 11.00 8
2001 Cof Rev 8.30 9.30 11
2001 Cof Obv 5.00 6.30 3
2001 Cof Obv 4.00 5.00 6
2001 Cof Obv 5.30 6.00 3
2001 Cof Rev 4.00 4.30 5
2001 Cof Rev 4.00 5.00 6
2001 Cof Rev 7.15 8.00 5
2001 Cof Rev 7.30 8.15 3
2001 Cof Rev 8.00 8.30 3
2001 Cof Rev 8.00 9.00 6
2001 Cof Rev 8.30 9.30 11
2001 Cof Rev 8.45 9.15 5
2001 Cof Rev 9.00 9.30 4
2001 Cof Rev 9.00 9.30 4
2001 IYV Rev 6.45 7.15 5 SC
2001 IYV Rev 9.00 9.40 5 SC
2001 IYV Rev 7.00 7.30 4.5 SC
2001 IYV Rev 8.45 9.15 5.5 SC
2001 IYV Rev 7.00 7.30 4 SC
2001 IYV Rev 9.00 9.30 5 SC
2001 IYV Rev 9.00 9.40 3
2001 IYV Rev 9.00 9.50 4 (2)
2001 IYV Rev 8.40 9.10 4
2001 IYV Rev 7.30 8.10 5
2001 IYV Rev 9.00 9.30 5 (3)
2001 IYV Rev 8.15 9.00 5.5
2001 IYV Rev 8.30 9.00 5
2001 IYV Rev 8.45 9.15 6
2001 IYV Rev 9.00 10.00 6
2002 O'bk Rev 7.00 8.00 6 SC
2002 O'bk Rev 9.00 9.30 5 SC
2002 O'bk Rev 9.30 10.00 4
2002 O'bk Rev 8.30 9.15 4
2002 O'bk Rev 8.00 9.00 5 (2)
2002 O'bk Rev 8.00 8.45 5
2002 O'bk Rev 9.00 9.30 5
2002 O'bk Rev 9.00 9.45 5.5
2002 O'bk Rev 8.30 9.15 6
2002 O'bk Rev 8.00 9.00 6 (3)
2002 O'bk Rev 8.40 9.30 7 (2)
2003 Suf Obv 2.30 3.00 4 (2)
2003 Suf Rev 9.00 9.45 6
2004 MoR Obv 2.00 3.00 7
2004 MoR Obv 3.00 4.00 7
2005 MoR Obv 1.30 2.00 3 (3)
2005 MoR Obv 2.00 2.30 5 (2)
2005 MoR Rev 8.30 9.00 5
2006 MoR Obv 8.00 9.30 11 (2)


These are the 4 longest $1 Rim Cuds I have:

$1 2001 CoF C2v1 Rev 8mm Rim Cud 9.30-11k
(http://i50.tinypic.com/6rh4hw.jpg)

 
$1 2001 CoF C4v1 Obv 10mm Rim Cud 5-6.30k
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2lkv5zb.jpg)

 
$1 2006 MoR C1v1 Rev 11mm Rim Cud 8.-9.30k
 (http://i45.tinypic.com/15d9lxv.jpg)

I found this yesterday while searching. The coin is knocked about but is this classed as a rabbit ear? It is only small but it is 1985 and aren't they meant to be rare?

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It sure looks like a bunny to me and yes, 1985 are VERY hard to find, so well done! :yahoo:

I have to agree with Nevol on this one.   I have only seen two in reality with my own eyes and both of them are in my collection.

If my mind serves me correct, yours is only the ninth or tenth to have surfaced/reported to date.

I have only ever seen one up for sale on ebay and that went for a moderate price.   That was a couple of years ago before this forums time.

The 1985 is scarcer than the 2000 Mule.

Some images of a 2001 $1 CoF showing the dots/pearls all over the place, especially around the profile and legend.  I think the dies must have been very worn to end up with coins like this.

All one coin:
$1 2001 CoF Obv 'Pearls' v10-12 Trio
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2qaj04g.jpg)

$1 2001 CoF Obv 'Pearls' v1-3 Trio
(http://i41.tinypic.com/zv1yli.jpg)

$1 2001 CoF Obv 'Pearls' v4-6 Trio
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2zjb72g.jpg)

$1 2001 CoF Obv 'Pearls' v7-9 Trio
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2056x4w.jpg)

Different coin:
$1 2001 CoF Rev 'Pearls' v1
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2e3suah.jpg)

Thanks for the pics Nevol ..... they're pearlers! :angel:

Every time I see one of your excellent detailed posts I think about the error catalogue project, and how you should be the one to put it together. Awesome work!

(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o787/robster836/031_zps12207f27.jpg)(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o787/robster836/029_zps84b691c5.jpg)(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o787/robster836/030_zpsd0db5957.jpg)

Robster found something "decimal'   o.m.g.  :dance2:

Quote from: 'Robster' pid='32862' dateline='1383103924'Robster found something "decimal'   o.m.g.

And a nice spew roo it is too! :yahoo:

Good one Robster.  :yahoo: I don't think I've ever seen a 1984 Spew Roo!

robster , that is called a spew roo , and a very good  one too .
                                 ,, kel ,,

Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='32864' dateline='1383104076'Good one Robster.  :yahoo: I don't think I've ever seen a 1984 Spew Roo!

I have one posted in my Gallery and I have had it for some time.

Nice find regardless.

Nice one Robster .... Raaaaaalph the Roo!

Here are some random $1 Errors.  

$1 1995 Rev Lam 1k - 9k Approx   
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2lbyyhk.jpg)

$1 1997 Smithy Rev Wing Tip Cud   
(http://i39.tinypic.com/28knjbp.jpg)

$1 2008 Rev Cuds on R1 & R2's Backs C1 Duo   
(http://i42.tinypic.com/288upva.jpg)

$1 2008 Rev Cuds on R1 & R2's Backs C2 Duo   
(http://i39.tinypic.com/xnx647.jpg)

$1 2009 Rev Poo Roo   
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2zrfdkj.jpg)

$1 2010 Rev Rabbit C1, C2, C3 Trio    
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2i6kktv.jpg)

Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='36569' dateline='1386476155'$1 1997 Smithy Rev Wing Tip Cud   

There are two distinct versions of this error... a thin crack and the cud shown above. I can't recall ever finding any other type of error on these coins either, which makes them rather special, especially compared to more recent years. ;)

Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='36578' dateline='1386479074'There are two distinct versions of this error... a thin crack and the cud shown above. I can't recall ever finding any other type of error on these coins either, which makes them rather special, especially compared to more recent years. ;)

Yep, I have multiples of both types. I have listed a Smithy coin having a 6mm Rim Cud, from 9 - 10k, but don't yet have an image,  I'll see if I can dig it out & take a piccie. I also have a couple Smithy laminations. :angel:

Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='36587' dateline='1386484044'I have listed a Smithy coin having a 6mm Rim Cud, from 9 - 10k, but don't yet have an image,  I'll see if I can dig it out & take a piccie. I also have a couple Smithy laminations. :angel:

While flaws really don't count, because after all they ARE unique, I've never really decided about rim cuds. On the one hand they are of course die breaks, which makes them as much errors as any other. But on the other hand, they're not predictable, in either what coins they appear on, where they appear, or how large they are.

I'm thinking we need a concerted effort to try and document the little blighters, to see if we can pin down some sort of progression, as with say rabbit ears or boxing gloves. Or failing that, ascertain if there are in fact many different breakages on different dies producing them.

Interested? :angel:

Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='36590' dateline='1386485428'Interested? :angel:

Maybe, kinda depends on what's involved. :winkextra: I'm just about to embark on a chore to try to get all my Aussie error coins sorted into some organised method so that when I want a particular coin, I will know exactly where to look. :whistle2:

I waste far too much precious time trying to locate things. :dash1:

Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='36595' dateline='1386487063'

Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='36590' dateline='1386485428'Interested? :angel:

Maybe, kinda depends on what's involved. :winkextra: I'm just about to embark on a chore to try to get all my Aussie error coins sorted into some organised method so that when I want a particular coin, I will know exactly where to look. :whistle2:

I waste far too much precious time trying to locate things. :dash1:

Thank God I don't actively collect errors, I have over 3,000 coins in the PPH albums in 2x2's and I can normally locate a coin in seconds.
Some of my other stuff like the US, Canadian and NZ coins are still in bags, ice cream containers and boxes and I will eventually get around to putting these in albums as well.
You blokes/gals with several thousand different errors and coins have a REAL task in front of you :angel:

Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='36595' dateline='1386487063'Maybe, kinda depends on what's involved. :winkextra: I'm just about to embark on a chore to try to get all my Aussie error coins sorted into some organised method so that when I want a particular coin, I will know exactly where to look. :whistle2:

I waste far too much precious time trying to locate things. :dash1:

I presume you read the posts I did some time ago describing the system I'm developing?

At its core are a couple of elements:

• A unique identifier for each coin, or roll in the event there are many identical ones (such as you find with bulk UNC coins).

• A webpage for each identifier, providing a place to park basic info, pictures, etc.

• A database to provide a reference base, print labels, etc.

At the moment, I'm using Filemaker Pro for the database, because it offers exceptional output capability with minimal effort. Things are still in flux, but its already doing a pretty good job of producing a variety of different format labels and lists. Plus, it could be accessed online if required.

For the web pages I'm using my own space, with goo.gl short URL's (to produce as small a QR code as possible). Eventually catalogue pages could be added as a front end, possibly via FMP, depending on being able to host it.

The identifiers are also in a state of flux, but this is what I wrote up about six months ago:

Coin Index Numbers
2013200e100000

Rolls:
2013200 Normal Coin, Standard Design
2013200c Commemorative Design
2013200v Variety

Errors

2013200e100000 Year
2013200e100000 Denomination (cents)
2013200e100000 Type: E-Error F-Flaw V-Variety
2013200e100000 Serial Number

Note: Individual coins have unique serial numbers. Roll numbers only indicate type of error, and always end in 000

2013200e100000 Major Error Type (Eg: 1-Die Variation/Damage)
2013200e100000 Secondary Error Type (Eg: 1-Crack,  2-Cud, etc)
2013200e100000 Tertiary Error Type (Used to disambiguate multiple similar errors)
2013200e100000 Sequence Number for individual coins


The database also contains a unique sequence number, which is used to add a barcode to roll labels in addition to the QR code. This allows tracking of particular identical rolls, even though they all carry the same identifier.

What I haven't given any thought to is implementing such a system for multiple users. While the numbers are large enough that no individual is ever likely to run out (yes, me included), there would be all sorts of issues with allocating and managing blocks of numbers. Its probably easier to separately add an alphabetic identifier, say the person's initials or something, either as part of the identifier or totally separate. But this part definitely needs work. ;)

Holy guacamole, I'd never remember even 5% of all that.  I hate to say it, but sorry Fulvio, I think you're on your own with that project, I simply would not be able to grasp it.  

In fact I just realised lately that I can only do one thing at a time. I used to be able to knit or crochet, read a book and watch TV all at once.  These days, the slightest distraction and I feel the need to scream. If my son speaks to me, I have to stop whatever I'm doing and concentrate very hard to be able understand what he's on about. Most times I don't remember what it was that I was doing, so then I go off on another tangent.

This getting old is no damn fun!

Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='36598' dateline='1386490761'Holy guacamole, I'd never remember even 5% of all that.

Heh, point is not to have to remember it. And anyway, its like Mark's coin mapping project... its not building it that's the problem, its populating it with meaningful data. And that's the bit where help is needed. :)

I couldn't see this one on Nevol's comprehensive list on page 1 of this thread. My guess is it's around 2:15 to 2:45

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/2001_1_fed_rc_2_2.jpg)

That's a new 'Rim Cud' position on 2001 CoF $1 I've not seen before.  The majority of mine are on the left side with only a few on the lower right.

Nice find! :yahoo:

THUD, yep that was me hitting the floor, Nevol not see one, well I never :winkextra:

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='39268' dateline='1389306478'THUD, yep that was me hitting the floor, Nevol not see one, well I never :winkextra:

:haha:  :haha: You crack me up AJ.

:winkextra: :hi:

Discovered this one during my tidy up. Pretty sure this is PMD.

$1 2001 CoF Obv PMD
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/_1_2001_CoF_Obv_PMD_v2.jpg)

$1 2001 C1 Obv 2001 CoF Damaged area
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/_1_2001_C1_Obv_2001_CoF_Damaged_area_duo1.jpg)

$1 2001 C1 Obv 2001 CoF Edge & Rim Opposite side of Damaged area
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/_1_2001_C1_Obv_2001_CoF_Edge2C_Opposite_side_of_Damaged_area_duo2.jpg)