I see insanity still reigns supreme.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/256537668256?itmmeta=01J00Z0Y689JKFXRVM2MVABW9Q&hash=item3bbad62aa0%3Ag%3Aw94AAOSwXOtmZCtL&LH_Auction=1
One of many like this, $55 on issue was too dear in the first place.
Couldn't agree more with you - and coins are not even made with precious metals
While I agree, I believe that it's for a coin collecting overall.
Eventually some of the people doing this may get serious and start to join the ranks of long term collectors. This will make sure that our "hobby" continues for a long time yet.
I'm already starting to see that pre-decimals are loosing their value because less and less people are collecting them.
Quote from: 'WavyTwenty' pid='129317' dateline='1718154885'I'm already starting to see that premedicals are loosing their value because less and less people are collecting them.
I have never heard the term ''premedicals'' before. :s
What does it mean?
Quote from: 'gweidion' pid='129314' dateline='1718102062'I see insanity still reigns supreme.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/256537668256?itmmeta=01J00Z0Y689JKFXRVM2MVABW9Q&hash=item3bbad62aa0%3Ag%3Aw94AAOSwXOtmZCtL&LH_Auction=1
One of many like this, $55 on issue was too dear in the first place.
The hype and insanity around these coins even managed to get an article on a leading German internet news magazine (spiegel online).
Quote from: 'redlock' pid='129318' dateline='1718170667'Quote from: 'WavyTwenty' pid='129317' dateline='1718154885'I'm already starting to see that premedicals are loosing their value because less and less people are collecting them.
I have never heard the term ''premedicals'' before. :s
What does it mean?
I think that should be pre-decimals.
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='129320' dateline='1718191955'Quote from: 'redlock' pid='129318' dateline='1718170667'Quote from: 'WavyTwenty' pid='129317' dateline='1718154885'I'm already starting to see that premedicals are loosing their value because less and less people are collecting them.
I have never heard the term ''premedicals'' before. :s
What does it mean?
I think that should be pre-decimals.
Ah, okay.
Quote from: 'redlock' pid='129322' dateline='1718255976'Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='129320' dateline='1718191955'Quote from: 'redlock' pid='129318' dateline='1718170667'Quote from: 'WavyTwenty' pid='129317' dateline='1718154885'I'm already starting to see that premedicals are loosing their value because less and less people are collecting them.
I have never heard the term ''premedicals'' before. :s
What does it mean?
I think that should be pre-decimals.
Ah, okay.
Thanks to the magic of edit I've fixed up. Yes, I meant pre-decimals.
The predecimals/premedicals thing is a non issue. Many of us are older and not spellati spellotrons, we make mistakes, lets just accept that and move on. I find typing the different meaning or context of a word is common at my age -its not a crime and not worth 5 posts over.
Anyway these coins - a complete joke and another nail in the coffin of the credibility of NCLT issues in Australia and the world in general. Bluey is a juvenile programme aimed at toddlers and preschoolers who have just learned how to talk - 2- 4 year olds. How many 4 year olds get $20 plus to buy a coin they can't play with and being muck metal, will never be worth more than a dollar or even less if the Australians demonitise the dollars like the UK did with round pounds in 2016.
Too many of the Woolworths tie ins, have been low quality topics like Mr Squiggle, Wiggles (Lots of cartoon characters with "iggle" in their name isn't there). sports based designs with bad graphic art, Possum Majic etc. Lot of stuff aimed at infantile and low IQ pursuits. The war and aboriginal themed coins are much better. This is all kiddie krap pure and simple.
How about aiming coins at demographics who have money and will buy them.
Plus this limited and staggered releasing of this junk, with all the gimmicks like coloured coins etc - are feeding into the Scambay secondary market which sees idiots selling them for thousands of dollars. Coin collecting should be fun, but its also a serious hobby for a lot of us. I get tired of mentioning I collect coins and the other person asks me how many NFL coins or Star Wars silver rounds I have, when I have zero interest in them. I collect "intelligent" coins like 17th century half Crowns, gold sovereigns and Indian Rupees, not a muck metal dollar with some Aussie Toddler fad on it, or a overpriced silver round with a 1980s cartoon or movie character on it.
Still I will admit its a step up from the crowd who think coins are Bitcoins, game currency or some card game and the mob who collect Trump and Doge coins.
Does anyone here know a guy called "Brismike" on Numista - he attacks me everytime I single out some Bubblegum coin and usually brings up how little NZ issues in comparison and then shows some of the NCLT rubbish from Niue (Issued by Private mints) as comparison.
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Too many of the Woolworths tie ins, have been low quality topics like Mr Squiggle, Wiggles (Lots of cartoon characters with "iggle" in their name isn't there). sports based designs with bad graphic art, Possum Majic etc. Lot of stuff aimed at infantile and low IQ pursuits. The war and aboriginal themed coins are much better. This is all kiddie krap pure and simple.
How about aiming coins at demographics who have money and will buy them.
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That's precisely what the RAM has done with these coins - aimed them squarely at the parents of children who are Bluey fans and who will feel some compulsion to buy them for that reason.
But I do think the RAM have seriously missed the market here. This is a coin that should have been either issued for general circulation or sold for just a couple of dollars above face, with mintage in the millions. Whether you like it or not, agree with it or not, or even know about it or not, Bluey is Australia's biggest cultural export since Steve Irwin and thus worthy of commemorating on coinage, especially now while its still popular (rather than like the Mr Squiggle coins, waiting until the show was a distant memory).
Bluey is popular enough worldwide that a million coins would have sold easily. And they'd have avoided all the bad press they're getting for making them such a limited edition run that the eBay resellers have cornered the market on them, forcing desperate parents to pay the scalpers fees just to try to keep their kids happy. Of course, if you've just paid $800 or so for some Bluey coins off eBay, are you going to let your kids touch them? Almost certainly not. Thus, the actual intended market for these coins - the children - are going to miss out.
[quote="Tanecoins" pid='129367' dateline='1718764235']
I get tired of mentioning I collect coins and the other person asks me how many NFL coins or Star Wars silver rounds I have, when I have zero interest in them. I collect "intelligent" coins like 17th century half Crowns, gold sovereigns and Indian Rupees, not a muck metal dollar with some Aussie Toddler fad on it, or a overpriced silver round with a 1980s cartoon or movie character on it.
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If someone else is passionately collecting something you personally are not interested in, and they are expressing that passion in a public forum, then insulting it or calling it "junk" is not likely to win you many friends. Suppose someone went around saying "I collect real coins: Roman denarii and aureii, and Greek tetradrachms and decadrachms, not cheap modern trash like 17th century halfcrowns, gold sovereigns and Indian rupees". You're not going to hear that and think "Wow, that there is a real coin collector, I should stop collecting the modern junk that I'm actually interested in and start collecting Roman and Greek coins instead". Rather, you'd probably think "Wow, that guy's an arrogant jerk". Trust me, I've met people with that exact attitude, and I've had that exact response.
We're all on the same side, and have basically the same passion, even if the targets of that passion are different. Coins are not like sports teams or political parties: being passionate about what you collect does not require trash-talking everything that you don't collect. The coin clubs that I'm a member of have an unwritten rule: never trash-talk someone else's passion. The coin club has members who are multi-millionaires and who can afford collecting at the elite ethereal end of the spectrum; other members collect coins from pocket change and buy whatever the RAM churns out. They're both passionate about it, and they're both welcome.
Good points. I was being a snob. But I still don't like these coins or any other bubblegum coins issued by the Woolworths division of the mint. Our Countdown supermarkets in NZ have all be rebranded Woolworths and its been nothing but issues. Issues with the loyalty card and a series of rat infestations last summer and autumn. I used to collect the coloured $2 coins, but now have stopped.
About ancients, yes I agree they would see collecting more modern coins as more basic. Thats me though, I respect and admire Greek, Roman coins but just have not that much interest in them. Also apart from the cheap 3rd to 5th century Roman coppers, I am worried that many better coins would be fakes and I could not tell the difference.
I just ranted about Bluey, because its overpriced and I just don't think it adds much to the hobby. If they want kids to collect them, like you said - sell them for like $3 each or give them away with a Happy Meal. Although I know what happens when they release a in demand toy with Happy meals - pandemonium.
Plus too, they are not precious metals. If they released a gold or silver Bluey coin - that may attract more adult and cashed up collectors.
I did not know how popular Bluey was, as I have not watched children's tv since 1983 and being gay I have no children or grandchildren. But I do know that there are dozens of programmes aimed at preschoolers and babies and could never tell them apart.
They are releasing more of these silly coins - this sudden 2025 release caused queues to form at the mint.
https://region.com.au/collectors-queue-overnight-for-bluey-coin-release/913544/
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic168180.html#p1288808 - Numista thread, with Brismike praising them. Him and I don't see eye to eye and you can expect a negative response to my reply saying these coins are even more stupid than ever.
Its true, everytime you think the Australia mint can't issue a more stupid coin issue, they shock us with new levels of stupidity and pointlessness. I mean its a dumb design, usual 1 colour in in every 500 tubes or whatever. Overpriced release and no doubt spivs on Feebay waiting to pounce on gullible people. Apparently none will be shipped overseas (Another way to create a market for marginal products).
Lot's of people queued at the Perth mint to get these too (not me), so as pointless as we seem to think they are, someone out there loves them.
Yes, it will be interesting to see the Ebay prices.
Just checked and the silver coins are selling for $450 - $590.
That is crazy, a fool and their money are soon parted.
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='130420' dateline='1760795498'Just checked and the silver coins are selling for $450 - $590.
Only silver coins released? Or are there also coins intended for circulation?
By the way, it seems the RAM took Tanecoins advice from his post on 20-06-2024. ;)
Yes there is a standard coin which is aluminium bronze and shows an image of the Dog family or something, it's sold for like $20 or more in a house shaped packet that is also a tree decoration.
The story I posted referred to it as a "gold" coin and this is typical as in NZ and Australia, our gold coloured $1 and $2 coins are referred to as "gold coins" when in fact they are completely worthless muck metal (Aluminium bronze or brass) and cost centavos to make, hence why the Aussies have a $2 smaller than their $1 and even with us a $2 coin costs around 5 cents to make or something.
Its a figure of speech like "Church fair, please bring a gold coin for entry" "March of dollars for Gaza, please bring a gold coin or 3" and by that they mean a $1 or $2 piece, not an actual gold sovereign! They need to milk this Bluey fad for all its worth. Fads come and go and Bluey has been around for a while.
Just this week I watched some silly Youtube video about how Labubus (A stupid Chinese made cut monster soft toy popularised by dumb celebrities like the Kardashians and various K pop band members) collapsed and the Chinese made plastic rubbish is no longer a scarce accessory but a giveaway item.
Quote from: 'redlock' pid='130422' dateline='1760861494'Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='130420' dateline='1760795498'Just checked and the silver coins are selling for $450 - $590.
Only silver coins released? Or are there also coins intended for circulation?
No, sorry Ralf, no circulation coin, but I have just put some 2025 coins in yours and Tane's piles.
My grand-kids watch Bluey cartoons. I've even watched some episodes and they aren't the worst thing I've ever seen, but I certainly wouldn't be buying Bluey coins, not even on release.
And this is from someone who got a Mr Squiggle set for nostalgia reasons.
Hurry up, hurry up.
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='130425' dateline='1760873836'No, sorry Ralf, no circulation coin, but I have just put some 2025 coins in yours and Tane's piles.
Good to hear about the 2025-dated coins.
I am NOT disappointed that the Bluey coin is not for circulation.
Quote from: 'Tanecoins' pid='130424' dateline='1760868599'The story I posted referred to it as a "gold" coin and this is typical as in NZ and Australia, our gold coloured $1 and $2 coins are referred to as "gold coins" when in fact they are completely worthless muck metal (Aluminium bronze or brass) and cost centavos to make, hence why the Aussies have a $2 smaller than their $1 and even with us a $2 coin costs around 5 cents to make or something.
Its a figure of speech ...
Thanks for the explanation. :cool:
I did not know that.
Quote from: 'redlock' pid='130431' dateline='1760965514'Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='130425' dateline='1760873836'No, sorry Ralf, no circulation coin, but I have just put some 2025 coins in yours and Tane's piles.
Good to hear about the 2025-dated coins.
I am NOT disappointed that the Bluey coin is not for circulation.
Me neither
The new Bluey coins are up to enter the ballot on the Mint website.
I suspect that the same will happen to these that happen to the others.
A friend tells me they got a set from their post office.
Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='130892' dateline='1778137513'A friend tells me they got a set from their post office.
I'm glad I was unaware of these when they were first stolen and being flogged on eBay. Made me have no interest in any of them.
Money saved for our European tour.
Back now, will look through the change in coming days, although I did my best to use up coins. Never spotted a Grace Kelly Euro unfortunately.
I'm thinking there's a fair chance that all the Bluey coins will see heightened interest in the US, given the popularity of the TV show over there. Wow, if 5% of US kids alone want a Bluey coin, they could be a sleeper for sure.
The coloured circulating $2 coins from the till are nice.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/nckAAeSwtmpp-y8M/s-l1600.webp)
Nice.
At least they maybe more affordable, for me at least, the Trigg has saved some. My guess is the parent dogs will be next year? From what I have learned from my cousin's young children is that Bluey and Bingo are siblings, Bluey acts about 5 and Bingo is younger and female and around 3/4.
Quote from: 'Tanecoins' pid='130911' dateline='1780746584'At least they maybe more affordable, for me at least, the Trigg has saved some. My guess is the parent dogs will be next year? From what I have learned from my cousin's young children is that Bluey and Bingo are siblings, Bluey acts about 5 and Bingo is younger and female and around 3/4.
FYI Both Bluey and Bingo are female.
I didn't know that about Bluey.
And yes, this tv series for pre-schoolers has reached Germany shores, too.
I can't believe the idiots at the ABC. 70% funded by Australia, 30% funded by the BBC. The BBC got the merchandising rights. It has made them about 2 BILLION dollars. Wankers in the ABC.
I couldn't tell, those doggies look gender neutral to me. Its a show aimed at toddlers, I am 50. That may be toddling age here but not for kiddie dog shows.
I thought Bluey was a boy dog, as they had the blue with her/him/it and the pink for the younger puppette.
In my day the 1970s/80s gender roles of cartoon characters were much more firm, no gender ambiguous woke dogs then.