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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Errors and Varieties => Topic started by: Goldseeker on July 27, 2021, 12:52:48 PM

Title: At Long Last.
Post by: Goldseeker on July 27, 2021, 12:52:48 PM
After many years of searching/noodling, I have finally broken the ice:

Before Ultrasonic Cleaner:

(https://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/106/2021-07-27_12-28-26_0030.jpg)


After Ultrasonic Cleaner:

(https://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/106/2021-07-27_14-04-40_0031.jpg)
May not be in the best of condition but it is my first.
Title: RE: At Long Last.
Post by: jens coins on July 27, 2021, 02:03:58 PM
Well done Bruce
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Post by: JeffH on July 27, 2021, 02:09:54 PM
Good one Bruce. Maybe not the best condition but not many 1966 20¢ in circulation are after 55 years.
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Post by: Triggersmob on July 27, 2021, 06:24:18 PM
Well done Bruce. The ultrasonic cleaner makes a bit of a difference.
Title: RE: At Long Last.
Post by: fred lever on July 27, 2021, 08:15:49 PM
Yes well done!
In my life I have found 1 example  in change and bought 2, the first in about 1980 for a couple of bucks  and the last  around 2000 for a "bit more".
I did a small article about the coin for CAB a long while ago as I worked out the "2" is a blunder in die preparation.
I did ask the London Mint if there was any trace of the that die, as the coins were London minted.
A really good contact there pulled the existing dies and punches out of storage but they were all spot on with no blunder so it is a mystery.
My enquiry to the Australian mint was ignored.
Such is life.
Keep looking!!
Fred.
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Post by: runway on July 27, 2021, 08:23:18 PM
Nice find Bruce
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Post by: Pedro on July 28, 2021, 07:32:33 AM
Well done Bruce!  :yahoo:

Pedro
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Post by: Mister T on July 28, 2021, 08:22:57 PM
Nice find - they're still out there.
Title: RE: At Long Last.
Post by: gweidion on July 29, 2021, 01:46:35 PM
Great pick up. I've certainly never seen one in my change but I keep hoping. I wouldn't pay hundreds of dollars for one like some people do.
Title: RE: At Long Last.
Post by: notcb on July 30, 2021, 12:32:15 AM
Assuming the mintage of 30 million is correct (RAM figure) and all minted in London (RAM information) and there was only one rogue curved 2 die, what would be the estimate of the number of curved 2 coins that might have been let out in the wild?     In other words, what is the typical life of a single die when producing circulation quality coins?   

This would give some insight into how many coins might still be out there.     :huh:
Title: RE: At Long Last.
Post by: Unicorn on July 30, 2021, 08:59:40 AM
Well done Goldie!!! :good: They've always eluded me too!
Title: RE: At Long Last.
Post by: fred lever on July 30, 2021, 07:52:06 PM
Hi notcb, the problem is how quickly quality control jumped on the rubbish coming from that press and stopped the nonsence not the actual die life.
The number may have been what escaped remelt not what the die life number was.
From that thinking, a way of estimating numbers may be gained from how common they were in change.
Must be a fair few as to start with they bobbed up now and then.
They were more common than say a 2000 mule or that 50c with the incuse flag?
That suggests 10,000s made it to freedom?
Fred.
Title: RE: At Long Last.
Post by: JeffH on July 31, 2021, 05:32:40 AM
Hi Fred,
From my noodling many thousands of mainly 20¢, 50¢ and $1 coins I would say more common than the 2000 mule but less common than the incused flag.
I have seen a figure of 3,000 quoted but without any evidence of how that number was obtained.

Goldie would say much less common than the mule but I suspect he has noodled many more $1 coins than 20¢ coins.
Title: RE: At Long Last.
Post by: fred lever on July 31, 2021, 08:16:05 PM
Thanks Jeff, you guys see many more coins than I do, being a part timer at the best!
What you say makes sense.
Fred.
Title: RE: At Long Last.
Post by: Goldseeker on August 02, 2021, 01:34:24 PM
In regards to my noodling figures JeffH, they are as follows:

$1 Coins = 2,895,546.
$0.20c coins: = 88,984
$0.50c coins: = 541,484
$2 coins; = 127,581.

Over the past 18-24 months I have slowed somewhat in the number of coins noodled.
Title: RE: At Long Last.
Post by: JeffH on August 02, 2021, 03:42:34 PM
I slowed down when Westpac closed the branch here. Shifted to CBA, now only bank in town.
My wife lost her job and I lost a contact at Westpac who would let me know whenever a quantity of coin came in.
One of the CBA tellers has called me up sometimes when a really big coin deposit has been made, so no complaints there. One of the advantages of a small town where everybody knows nearly everyone else.
Title: RE: At Long Last.
Post by: Ozcoins on September 18, 2021, 07:38:06 PM
Congratulations Bruce!
Well done!
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Post by: frenc11 on September 19, 2021, 10:02:51 PM
well done , i am still trying
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Post by: autocoupler on September 20, 2021, 09:38:37 AM
Persistence has payed off, a nice feeling of achievement no doubt. I purchased one in low grade about 17 years ago but never look for them, so my coin doesn't feel all that special.