New $20 coming soon.
https://banknotes.rba.gov.au/australias-banknotes/next-generation-banknotes-program/
Thanks for the update Nancy. :)
What year are the old notes in the folder? The most recent $20 notes I've seen are dated 2013.
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='120411' dateline='1569928305'New $20 coming soon.
https://banknotes.rba.gov.au/australias-banknotes/next-generation-banknotes-program/
Thanks for the update Nevol
I'm in for a couple on arrival
Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='120424' dateline='1570017688'What year are the old notes in the folder? The most recent $20 notes I've seen are dated 2013.
:scratch_one-s_head: Not sure what folder you're referring to. On the Banknote Serial site 2013 is the last year $20's were made.
I got a $20 AA13 note in change yesterday that was in good condition. Looks like it is a keeper.
Quote from: 'jens coins' pid='120429' dateline='1570146576'I got a $20 AA13 note in change yesterday that was in good condition. Looks like it is a keeper.
Same here. I got mine earlier in the week
Not too bad condition
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='120428' dateline='1570140282'Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='120424' dateline='1570017688'What year are the old notes in the folder? The most recent $20 notes I've seen are dated 2013.
:scratch_one-s_head: Not sure what folder you're referring to. On the Banknote Serial site 2013 is the last year $20's were made.
I was wondering what year the old-style notes in the folder with two notes are - if 2013 was the last year the old-style notes were made I guess that's it.
This site has the 'blurb' re the folder on it under "Numismatic Banknote Arrangements".
https://banknotes.rba.gov.au/resources/for-collectors/collecting-banknotes/
The pre-order photos on 2 of the linked sites show an AD10 and an AB19, but this is by no means definitive!
The new generation $20 is a generic specimen photo, and it could well be the same for the old gen note as well...
Many of the new $20 notes on Ebay so far appear to be using the same images and as far as the 'old' notes go it may very well be wysiwyg. No last series notes that I can see. Only AD10 as per Shire.of.Douglas's post.
I'm not interested in getting any, just looked out of curiosity.
'Images courtesy of the Reserve Bank of Australia' so that explains why they're all the same.
Now that they're out does anyone know at what prefix the old signature ends and the new signature starts?
eBay always hosts grubs
Go to RBA in Canberra or Sydney to get the new $20 if interested
Don't bother buying the folders from a dealer they have already cherry picked the serial numbers
https://banknotes.rba.gov.au/portals/industry-engagement-hub/latest-news/
An interesting snippet for dedicated Note collectors.
QuotePlease note that the new $20 banknotes have been printed with two different signature combinations: Lowe/Fraser and Lowe/Gaetjens. The reason for this is that an early print run of the new $20 banknotes commenced while John Fraser still held the position of Secretary to the Treasury. The signature block was changed to reflect Philip Gaetjens' appointment prior to the commencement of the full production run.
It sounds like Lowe/Fraser could have low or ''low-ish'' production figures.
Okay, so I got some from a Westpac today - they're BF 19 1764618 - 1764622 and are Philip Gaetjens.
The last CAB (October) said most are the old Lowe/Gaetjens signatures.
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='120576' dateline='1571438756'https://banknotes.rba.gov.au/portals/industry-engagement-hub/latest-news/
An interesting snippet for dedicated Note collectors.
QuotePlease note that the new $20 banknotes have been printed with two different signature combinations: Lowe/Fraser and Lowe/Gaetjens. The reason for this is that an early print run of the new $20 banknotes commenced while John Fraser still held the position of Secretary to the Treasury. The signature block was changed to reflect Philip Gaetjens' appointment prior to the commencement of the full production run.
Not seeing any on eBay with Lowe Fraser unfortunately. I'm still looking for AA190 xxxxx ones and EA190 xxxxx ones to a lessor extent. Given that there are 10 million notes to a combination you'd think they would be relatively cheap.
Was only one sheet printed? Would the Lowe/Fraser ones be the high serial numbers?
Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='120748' dateline='1572772858'Was only one sheet printed? Would the Lowe/Fraser ones be the high serial numbers?
No indication of signature block quantities on the release data. Does anyone know someone who works at Note Printing Australia to ask?
Might eventually be added to the print information.
If Lowe/Fraser serials were issued eBay would be onto it by now
Looks like they've started turning up now - few for sale on Facebook. Some of the serial numbers:
AB 19 0049720
BI 19 0049481
BK 19 0041118
CC 19 004311*
Does anyone know how to get a continuous run of new $20 notes from the ATMs or cash exchange machines at Westpac? I had no problem doing this with the new $5, $10 and $50 notes, but they seem to be deliberately mixing the new $20 notes with the old ones to prevent people from doing this.
I can't go into the bank and ask for them directly, because they'll put teller flicks on them, thereby preventing me from selling them as CFU grade. I also can't buy a pack of 100, because it's well and truly outside my price range. What should I do in this situation? How can I get a consecutive run of 20 CFU new $20 notes at face value?
In years past I've asked tellers and they get dispensed by some machine now - I told the tellers I wanted new notes specifically so they were careful enough.
But don't they still count them individually, thereby creating teller flicks that prevent them from being sold as crisp, flat and uncirculated?
I think it depends on the branch and how busy or careful they are. I've had one teller run $1500 out of the cash dispenser and just hand them to me while another time the teller dutifully counted them out.
No notes were worth collecting though, all old or damaged.
Quote from: 'Hercules' pid='121695' dateline='1584179151'But don't they still count them individually, thereby creating teller flicks that prevent them from being sold as crisp, flat and uncirculated?
Last year the Westpac I went to seemed to dispense as many the teller told it to - seemed like new technology.
But the couple of times I've been to the teller they seemed understanding so if you tell them to be careful I'm sure they will.
Interesting transaction at the bank today.
Swapped a bundle of $50.00 notes for $100.00 notes and ended up with the following:
Three 1996 Test Notes;
Five last Prefix Notes: 2011 x 1 (EL), 2013 x 2 (EL), 2017 x 2 (HE).
Both the 2017 Notes have the Lowe/Fraser signature combination.
Am I reading things correctly that the Lowe/Fraser signature is hard to find?
I thought the 2017 $100 notes were tough to find in general (at the moment anyway).
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='122760' dateline='1594094588'Interesting transaction at the bank today.
Swapped a bundle of $50.00 notes for $100.00 notes and ended up with the following:
Three 1996 Test Notes;
Five last Prefix Notes: 2011 x 1 (EL), 2013 x 2 (EL), 2017 x 2 (HE).
Both the 2017 Notes have the Lowe/Fraser signature combination.
Am I reading things correctly that the Lowe/Fraser signature is hard to find?
All the 2017 notes will be Lowe Fraser. The ones that are difficult are the new 2019 $20 notes, most are Lowe Gaetjens with the Fraser combination appearing around the first 50 or 60 thousand in each serial. Exact numbers not available yet.
Having said that, the HE $100 notes are worth hanging on to as they are last prefix and are in demand, especially in good condition. I'm after a couple myself and hoping the prices will come down on Fleabag.
Just an update, on fleabag I've seen a Lowe Fraser $20 in the 105000 range which makes me believe that there may be significantly more than previously thought.
Ah nice - still no official numbers I guess.
Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='122782' dateline='1594382447'Ah nice - still no official numbers I guess.
That will be up to the RBA to put out and even then they may not differentiate between the signatures, but I hope they do.
Got a $20 AA19 Lowe Fraser note today from circulation.
Very Happy
Quote from: 'jens coins' pid='123633' dateline='1603275315'Got a $20 AA19 Lowe Fraser note today from circulation.
Very Happy
Wow, that's great. I'm still looking for one. I have some general prefix consecutive uncirculated ones, two and three, but no first or last prefixes. I did get 15 consecutive ones of the Lowe Gaetjens first prefix quite cheaply so I was happy about that.
I got a 2019 Lowe/Fraser $20 from circulation today. BI190024285, has one light fold.
Not as desirable as Jens AA19, but I'm not all that fussy about notes these days.
Print no's etc are now on the RBA site, so some cluey peeps should be able to calc the final print run numbers.
https://www.banknotes.rba.gov.au/resources/for-collectors/serial-numbers/
Given there is over 189 thousand of these Lowe Fraser notes in each serial combination the money being asked for on fleabag is ridiculous.
Quote from: 'gweidion' pid='124047' dateline='1609295534'Given there is over 189 thousand of these Lowe Fraser notes in each serial combination the money being asked for on fleabag is ridiculous.
I don't think that worries them. There is always someone out there that will pay the price
My son gave me a 2nd Lowe/Fraser $20 yesterday, S/N BB190048922. 2 really severe folds, but still a keeper. :winkextra:
There are heaps of the Lowe Fraser $20 notes around at the moment.
I have stopped keeping the circulated ones.
I can't say I have seen any in circulation, we still have a lot of the old notes circulating. Got $200 in $20 the other day from the bank, no new ones. Had the occasional Gaetjens one but none worth keeping.
Quote from: 'gweidion' pid='124047' dateline='1609295534'Given there is over 189 thousand of these Lowe Fraser notes in each serial combination the money being asked for on fleabag is ridiculous.
Looks like the market has taken heed with prices falling from $500 to under $100 in 4 weeks. :good:
Pedro
Quote from: 'Pedro' pid='124285' dateline='1612220702'Quote from: 'gweidion' pid='124047' dateline='1609295534'Given there is over 189 thousand of these Lowe Fraser notes in each serial combination the money being asked for on fleabag is ridiculous.
Looks like the market has taken heed with prices falling from $500 to under $100 in 4 weeks. :good:
Pedro
Still a bit dear though. I am loving seeing people continually relisting lower and lower but greed is making the process slow.
I now have 4 of these notes, nothing special about them though. All came from shopping change thanks to my son.
Finally found a 2019 Fraser/Lowe.
And I got another one in change today.
And I got another one last week - looks like they're finally finding their way into circulation.
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='124293' dateline='1612305788'I now have 4 of these notes, nothing special about them though. All came from shopping change thanks to my son.
I have 10 of these now. Nothing really special about them though, a couple are in nice condition.
Serial Nos as follows:
AD 19 0090656
AK 19 0030968
BA 19 0087972
BB 19 0048922
BB 19 0165392
BI 19 0024285
BJ 19 0110371
CK 19 0025472
DJ 19 0089786
DJ 19 0185859
This hype died. Hard to sell them for $40 now.
I got a 2019 Fraser/Lowe from an ATM a few weeks ago - it had seen some use so it was set free.
I saw an AA 19 recently and I got a CC 20 today, so the 2020 notes are out.