Am I right in that no proof sets were issued for 1967/68
If so I take it the 1966 set (in the blue case) was followed by the start (so to speak) of the 1969 set in the sealed plastic case
I'm pretty sure that's correct Gabby. :good: (I know for sure there were no 67/68, just not sure about the cases).
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='117987' dateline='1545694539'I'm pretty sure that's correct Gabby. :good: (I know for sure there were no 67/68, just not sure about the cases).
Thanks mate. I wasn't sure of 67/68
I was going off what was for sale on evilbay and have never seen any of those 2 come up for sale.
No official mint or proof sets in those years were released as far as I'm aware
No sets issued in 1967 or 1968 as there was no fifty cent coin issued for either year. As production methods were slow and interest high, many people didn't get their 1966 sets until well into 1967. There are also two kinds of 1966 cases. The first was a wooden frame covered with a dark blue covering. The wood vapours caused the coins to tone very badly with the bronze coins often looking almost black. When these cases ran out the RAM ordered more cases from either the mint or a company in South Africa. These cases were made of metal, rather than wood, and covers by a lighter material. Because the metal construction was more inert, the coins tend to retain their original brilliance. However, some 50 plus years later, it is now very difficult to find a set without some imperfection on at least one of the coins. It didn't help that the coins were not covered. This often results in some of the coins now showing fingerprints from being handled.
Greg
Thanks for the very interesting reply.
Whoops....Masonite,what a joke.
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Oh, that's awful :shock:
Pedro
That looks more like water damage to me.
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='118015' dateline='1545880379'That looks more like water damage to me.
It is,i posted details in a Thread a year or 2 back. It and some other Coins were placed in a plastic bag and stored in a gararge,the plastic bag melted or decomposed in some way and let moisture/mould in apparently...Shame.
Quote from: 'Greg McDonald' pid='118010' dateline='1545827571'No sets issued in 1967 or 1968 as there was no fifty cent coin issued for either year. As production methods were slow and interest high, many people didn't get their 1966 sets until well into 1967. There are also two kinds of 1966 cases. The first was a wooden frame covered with a dark blue covering. The wood vapours caused the coins to tone very badly with the bronze coins often looking almost black. When these cases ran out the RAM ordered more cases from either the mint or a company in South Africa. These cases were made of metal, rather than wood, and covers by a lighter material. Because the metal construction was more inert, the coins tend to retain their original brilliance. However, some 50 plus years later, it is now very difficult to find a set without some imperfection on at least one of the coins. It didn't help that the coins were not covered. This often results in some of the coins now showing fingerprints from being handled.
Thanks for sharing this insite Greg :welcome:
Geez, I don't think that's going to buff out!
That would want to make you cry.
I guess it shows what can happen
Good day,
It should be added that a few (about a dozen from memory) of the 1966 Proof set were produced in the plastic casing developed for the 1969 and subsequent issues, as an experiment.
When these were produced is likely to have been during 1968 in preparation for the 1969 issue. I understand that these experimental cases were later sold to RAM employees, making them quite valuable if ever sold.
The old Australian Coin Review had a number of articles by J M Henderson (RAM controller) about the development of the proof coins and their eventual plastic casing back around mid 1967 through mid 1969 from memory - maybe one of the older members of the forum still has access to old ACR volumes - I sold mine off years ago.
Cheers
Peter (notcb)
Quote from: 'notcb' pid='118116' dateline='1546550508'Good day,
It should be added that a few (about a dozen from memory) of the 1966 Proof set were produced in the plastic casing developed for the 1969 and subsequent issues, as an experiment.
When these were produced is likely to have been during 1968 in preparation for the 1969 issue. I understand that these experimental cases were later sold to RAM employees, making them quite valuable if ever sold.
The old Australian Coin Review had a number of articles by J M Henderson (RAM controller) about the development of the proof coins and their eventual plastic casing back around mid 1967 through mid 1969 from memory - maybe one of the older members of the forum still has access to old ACR volumes - I sold mine off years ago.
Cheers
Peter (notcb)
Greg McDonald was the founder of Australian Coin Review and has vast knowledge
Renniks is now just a catalogue published by the Pitts who have no knowledge of coins they just resell books and accessories
He founded the Australasian Coin and Banknote Magazine.
Quote from: 'notcb' pid='118116' dateline='1546550508'The old Australian Coin Review had a number of articles by J M Henderson (RAM controller) about the development of the proof coins and their eventual plastic casing back around mid 1967 through mid 1969 from memory - maybe one of the older members of the forum still has access to old ACR volumes - I sold mine off years ago.
Cheers
Peter (notcb)
I still have all my copies of 'Australian Coin World',1966-68, and Henderson was often quoted in articles and i remember the 1966 Proof Coins had mentions,i'll get them out this week and try and find them.
Quote from: 'Basil' pid='118160' dateline='1546726800'Quote from: 'notcb' pid='118116' dateline='1546550508'The old Australian Coin Review had a number of articles by J M Henderson (RAM controller) about the development of the proof coins and their eventual plastic casing back around mid 1967 through mid 1969 from memory - maybe one of the older members of the forum still has access to old ACR volumes - I sold mine off years ago.
Cheers
Peter (notcb)
I still have all my copies of 'Australian Coin World',1966-68, and Henderson was often quoted in articles and i remember the 1966 Proof Coins had mentions,i'll get them out this week and try and find them.
I have some of the older ones (late 1960s onward). If you remember the issue, I could flip through them?
Eric
RAM decimal proof sets in my Renniks 24th edition states 1966 proof sets . Mintage 18.110. As far as i know there are 2 types of 1966 proof sets. 1966 Dark blue case with Royal Australian Mint on top of case. Light blue case with Commonwealth of Australia on top of the case. Which came first, RAM or COMM?. Is one scarcer than the other??..
Amazing what Dr Google can turn up. :grin:
I found reference to the plastic cased 1966 Proof sets, of which there were, as I remembered, 12 such items.
https://www.wynyardcoins.com.au/shop/australian-decimal-coins/royal-australian-mint/1966-1983/1966-experiment-proof-set/ (https://www.wynyardcoins.com.au/shop/australian-decimal-coins/royal-australian-mint/1966-1983/1966-experiment-proof-set/)
Cheers
Peter (notcb)
Yeah,good find,i vaguely remember something about the plastic case as i do reading in depth articles about the 66 Proof
Sets,the cases they were in and other drama's the RAM had in their production.
Found a few generic waffles in Coin World that i will post while i have them out but i have other Books/Magazines from the 1960's stored at my Sisters place so if i can find the relevant ones i will post.
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Page 198 - I didn't realise Australian Coin World was such a beefy publication.
Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='118206' dateline='1547187069'Page 198 - I didn't realise Australian Coin World was such a beefy publication.
Yeah,it was cashing in on the high interest in Coin Collecting during the pre-dec. feeding frenzy,they went to a smaller size(and smaller print) late 1967 but folded late 1968.
Their main problem was a focus on overseas Coins at a time the majority of buyers were only interested in Oz. coins.
I remember a Dealer in one of the Sydney Arcades(Strand?) telling me the Dealers had who advertised in the Mag. tried to convince them to concentrate more on Oz. coins but apparently they had contracts in place with their overseas contributors,USA,UK,India ,HK etc.
I had the HSC in 1968 so when the last issue came out that was it for me as far as Coins were concerned for several years.