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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Pre-Decimal Coins => Topic started by: MobOfRoos on September 30, 2018, 11:48:46 AM

Title: Fake PCGS slab?
Post by: MobOfRoos on September 30, 2018, 11:48:46 AM
Whilst browsing the lots in the latest Status International Auction I came across lot 5816

http://www.statusint.com/result_coins.php?id=39 (http://www.statusint.com/result_coins.php?id=39)

Surely this is a fake slab. They even spelt "Australia" wrong.
It also begs the question of how this get into a major Auction houses catalogue?
Title: RE: Fake PCGS slab?
Post by: nealeffendi on September 30, 2018, 12:30:16 PM
There may be a good reason that they misspelled Australia such as character limits (they abbreviate many things). PCGS lookup shows it to be the right grade and year (though fakers would choose older pre Trueview slab numbers to both avoid image issues and because the old slabs were easier to fake).
Personally I'm more concerned by the number of high grade fakes that PCGS has put into slabs (I have some :mafia: and I now double check every slabbed coin I buy for fakes inside genuine slabs)
Title: RE: Fake PCGS slab?
Post by: MobOfRoos on September 30, 2018, 12:42:00 PM
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='116873' dateline='1538276416'There may be a good reason that they misspelled Australia such as character limits (they abbreviate many things). PCGS lookup shows it to be the right grade and year .


The first time I tried the certificate number it came up with an error. It works now though so it would seem not to be a fake.
I guess it must be an early generation holder because it looks quite amateurish.
Title: RE: Fake PCGS slab?
Post by: ausproofs on September 30, 2018, 03:15:01 PM
Quote from: 'MobOfRoos' pid='116874' dateline='1538277120'
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='116873' dateline='1538276416'There may be a good reason that they misspelled Australia such as character limits (they abbreviate many things). PCGS lookup shows it to be the right grade and year .


The first time I tried the certificate number it came up with an error. It works now though so it would seem not to be a fake.
I guess it must be an early generation holder because it looks quite amateurish.

Yes it is, the slab is from early 90's..

https://www.pcgs.com/holders
Title: RE: Fake PCGS slab?
Post by: frenc11 on October 01, 2018, 01:44:13 AM
i have heard of fake coins in slabs and fake slabs , i suppose a fake coins in a slab is better than a fake slab in regards to PCGS warranty , though both are a worry for collectors
Title: RE: Fake PCGS slab?
Post by: serenitystan on October 06, 2018, 09:08:19 AM
This coin sold for $1900.00 at Numis Bid Australia on the 29/12/16  am interested to see how much it goes for this time. Does not look like a RB coin to me. Maybe after 25years in the slab the penny has lost most of its red?..