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Title: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: wwwww on October 20, 2017, 09:12:21 PM
(https://coinphotos.net/626217/0/16777215/1600x1600/800/800x800.jpg)

(https://coinphotos.net/626217/1/16777215/1600x1600/800/800x800.jpg)

Looks like I have my inspiration for another CAB article. :D
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: ausjack on October 20, 2017, 09:49:52 PM
:drooling: very nice Walter :good: Please post more pic's if you take it out of it's 2x2 :winkextra:
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: kchan1111 on October 20, 2017, 10:28:02 PM
oh woow!
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: trout on October 20, 2017, 11:41:22 PM
My knowledge about Gold sovs and half's is very limited.
What makes this different to the other 1887 Sydney half sovs Walter?
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: wwwww on October 21, 2017, 12:40:22 AM
It's the crenulated reverse type, McD lists for 1880, 81, 83 with 1882 unverified. 1887 hasn't even been heard of.
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: echidna on October 21, 2017, 12:44:16 AM
Fabulous find Walter.
Please post some more pics.
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: Robster on October 21, 2017, 01:17:21 AM
Super find!
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: trout on October 21, 2017, 01:37:49 AM
Quote from: 'wwwww' pid='112457' dateline='1508508622'It's the crenulated reverse type, McD lists for 1880, 81, 83 with 1882 unverified. 1887 hasn't even been heard of.

Nicely spotted Mate  :yahoo: :good:
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: Mister T on October 21, 2017, 12:15:24 PM
Nice find - congratulations.
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: wwwww on October 23, 2017, 01:25:33 PM
(https://img.numistip.com/626235/0/16777215/800x800.jpg)
(https://img.numistip.com/626235/1/16777215/800x800.jpg)
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: ausjack on October 23, 2017, 03:09:59 PM
Thanks Walter, great pic's mate :good:
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: robbiegal on October 23, 2017, 05:17:48 PM
Quote from: 'wwwww' pid='112457' dateline='1508508622'It's the crenulated reverse type, McD lists for 1880, 81, 83 with 1882 unverified. 1887 hasn't even been heard of.

Have you talked to Tony Byrne about it Walter?
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: drakesterling on November 26, 2017, 11:31:16 AM
Will you send it to PCGS?
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: wwwww on November 26, 2017, 07:12:54 PM
Yeah, it has light hairlines, hopefully it'll slab.
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: nealeffendi on November 26, 2017, 07:31:55 PM
Quote from: 'wwwww' pid='113018' dateline='1511685774'Yeah, it has light hairlines, hopefully it'll slab.

If a new discovery with a defect such as hairlines such as this coin is given a Details grading how will they put it in the population report? (Will the report show a count of Zero?) Do they ever include an image of a Details coin on the population report page if there are no other coins known?
I love cruising the PCGS population report to see what is out there (far superior to the NGC population report) but the one thing NGC does better is it also has a Details census.
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: wwwww on November 26, 2017, 08:54:44 PM
A PCGS entry is made for it but the line is not visible on the pop report.
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: drakesterling on November 26, 2017, 10:17:56 PM
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='113019' dateline='1511686915'
Quote from: 'wwwww' pid='113018' dateline='1511685774'Yeah, it has light hairlines, hopefully it'll slab.

If a new discovery with a defect such as hairlines such as this coin is given a Details grading how will they put it in the population report? (Will the report show a count of Zero?) Do they ever include an image of a Details coin on the population report page if there are no other coins known?
I love cruising the PCGS population report to see what is out there (far superior to the NGC population report) but the one thing NGC does better is it also has a Details census.

I wish we could see the error coins that they have graded as well. You would enjoy seeing my broadstruck sovereign.
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: echidna on November 26, 2017, 10:59:22 PM
Quote from: 'drakesterling' pid='113021' dateline='1511696876'
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='113019' dateline='1511686915'
Quote from: 'wwwww' pid='113018' dateline='1511685774'Yeah, it has light hairlines, hopefully it'll slab.

If a new discovery with a defect such as hairlines such as this coin is given a Details grading how will they put it in the population report? (Will the report show a count of Zero?) Do they ever include an image of a Details coin on the population report page if there are no other coins known?
I love cruising the PCGS population report to see what is out there (far superior to the NGC population report) but the one thing NGC does better is it also has a Details census.

I wish we could see the error coins that they have graded as well. You would enjoy seeing my broadstruck sovereign.


PCGS number ?
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: drakesterling on November 27, 2017, 10:37:46 AM
Yes, the number would work too.
https://www.pcgs.com/cert/26366606

I meant that it would be good to see all the different kinds of errors they've graded on a population report, although I can see how it could be a bit difficult, what with all the different kinds of/degrees of errors.
Title: RE: Just discovered a new Half Sov
Post by: nealeffendi on November 27, 2017, 11:14:23 AM
Quote from: 'drakesterling' pid='113026' dateline='1511741266'Yes, the number would work too.
https://www.pcgs.com/cert/26366606

I meant that it would be good to see all the different kinds of errors they've graded on a population report, although I can see how it could be a bit difficult, what with all the different kinds of/degrees of errors.

Wouldn't be that hard. If PCGS wanted to they could have a second population report for Details coin and a third population report for Errors. There are not that many error coins graded for each year and denomination so they could probably all be shown that way. Then also have a Search  function to look for the various types of error. Could for example lump all the clips together (single, double, triple, crescent etc); off metal strikes together, flip overs and double strucks together, broadstrikes and out of collars together etc. Could even find the same coin in different categories through the Search function as some error coins have multiple errors.
The grading fee for error coins is a bit steep so if PCGS wanted to encourage us collectors to pay that sort of money to get them slabbed they need to consider an Errors  population report and Errors set registry