I was there today. To be honest, last year was better. They did not have RAM there this year. Last year they had two designers doing demos and answering questions. That was fantastic.
There seems to be more dealers attending last year too. I think ANDA is pricing themselves out of the market with what they are asking dealers to pay up for a table in the show. Must be real hard to sell enough NCLT coins to break even. I reckon there are more dealers in Petersham than the Money Expo.
Anyway was still good to chat to a few non-Sydney based dealers.
Also noticed the Downies at Town Hall Sydney is now "Town Hall Coins & Collectables". Looks like they are moving to some sort of franchising? When did that happen?
I was there too and I agree with your comments - the place looked somewhat bare compared to previous years. From what I could tell Downies had two stands - and the shop in the arcade was open as well.
Will head in later today to have a look around.
Pedro
Quote from: 'r9453' pid='112317' dateline='1507992561'I was there too and I agree with your comments - the place looked somewhat bare compared to previous years. From what I could tell Downies had two stands - and the shop in the arcade was open as well.
Without RAM it looks a bit bare. They really should make an effort for Money Expo.
I think may be all the Sydney/NSW dealers aren't showing up because of the costs. They have Petersham at the end of the month anyway.
Downies has 3 stands, if you are including Coinworks.
I noticed about two years ago I think it was that ANDA had gone from $10 a show (both Sydney and Brisbane) to now "a gold coin donation", well I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere but haven't been for a few years so not 100% sure.
I thought that was a bit strange but maybe it's the way ANDA is trying to get more people in the door but didn't realise at the time that the prices of the dealers have to charge to cover costs might actually drive people away as I'm sure people would prefer to pay a bit more at the door and save on the price of coins rather than get stung on everything they buy(like how the GST gets us so many times now) :@ But this is typical of the bigger fish eating the little fish and then wonder why there's no food left later on :dash1:
I think feebay is having a similar problem that they increased ALL the fees so much that more and more people are looking for alternative places to sell like the dreaded facebook.
2 years ago there's a ticket for one day entry or both day entry. The two days were Fri/Sat. Then they switched to Sat/Sun with gold coin donation. I guess the dealers are picking up the entry fees. Didn't feel like there are more people though. The weekend was more convenient have to admit.
Seems to be last year there were more marketable materials with wow factor - RAM designers, Australia's first banknote in a fancy display case from Coinworks, special PNCs. May be last year's PNC themes were more popular. This year was Banana in PJ and cars. I personally don't get their appeal.
I would rather pay entry fees to make it cheaper for the dealers and have more of them there. Not even Eric attended. He usually brings his good stuff along. And he is an ANDA Committee Member.
WOW no Eric, yes that's very unusual. Yes it was fri/sat when I was there a few years ago but sat/sun makes more sense and that's how brissie runs theirs. When I have been to them I get the two day passes and have usually found you get better deals on the sunday arvo..if there's anything good left.
Yes, unfortunately, the high table fees combined with the narrow range of coins that I deal in make the shows nonviable for me. But with or without a table, we can all support the show by turning up and spending a little bit with the dealers who have put in the effort to attend.
Eric
I hadn't been since 2014 (the RAM was in attendance on that occasion) and, as KC noted, it was much quieter this year in comparison. However, it did mean that you could wander round at your leisure and have a good squizz at what was on offer.
The Ford overprint PNCs were a sell-out while there were still a number of Women in War overprints available late in the day.
Pedro
Purhaps ANDA should reconsider relocating to a cheaper venue like Petersham rather than Town Hall conveniently located next to Downies ?
Not sure ANDA president Belinda Downie would agree
I have not been in over 15 years. Went this year and was very surprised by how small it was and that there was no mint your own RAM stand. Lots of empty floor space. Only went as Paul Holland asked to meet me. I wasn't intending to spend any money (already blew this months budget) but Paul was tied up for a bit so I ended up browsing, end result is Legendary Numismatics got another $500+ off me before Paul turned up and we talked for over an hour :friends: . Was very productive as it gave me :nx: to get motivated to follow up on unfinished research.
Does anyone know the issue prices for the PNCs released during the show? Can't seem to find them anywhere. I'm assuming they are around the $35 mark as before?
Quote from: 'rollycoins' pid='112347' dateline='1508066211'Does anyone know the issue prices for the PNCs released during the show? Can't seem to find them anywhere. I'm assuming they are around the $35 mark as before?
Here are all the show specials:
2017 Women in War PNC $30
2017 Ford 1965 Cortina PNC $35
2017 Ford 1071 Falcon XY PNC $35
2017 Bananas in Pyjamas PNC $45
2017 Year of Rooster PNC $30
Silent auctions for each of the PNC numbered from 1-10
$1 Privy Mark coins S, M, B, P each $15
Perth Mint has the 2018 Year of Dog 1/4 oz Silver Colour Proof $29
Ah thanks a lot for that kchan!
That $1 coin in the Women in War PNC - that was RAM right?
Perth Mint $1 KC.
Pedro
Quote from: 'Pedro' pid='112366' dateline='1508188349'Perth Mint $1 KC.
Pedro
Hmmm... I don't want it now. If it was a $1 RAM coin with just 750 mintage, now that would be interesting.
Has anyone got a $1 Privy Mark coin they might like to sell?
Mike
Quote from: 'brismike' pid='112428' dateline='1508416208'Has anyone got a $1 Privy Mark coin they might like to sell?
Mike
https://www.sterlingcurrency.com.au/items/one-dollar-uncirculated-card-2017-sydney-money-expo-privy-mark
Same price as the show. Can't imagine you can do any better?
Quote from: 'kchan1111' pid='112430' dateline='1508442776'Quote from: 'brismike' pid='112428' dateline='1508416208'Has anyone got a $1 Privy Mark coin they might like to sell?
Mike
https://www.sterlingcurrency.com.au/items/one-dollar-uncirculated-card-2017-sydney-money-expo-privy-mark
Same price as the show. Can't imagine you can do any better?
Not bad but the shipping is a bit steep at $8.
Mike