What's the go with these? I didn't see RAM officially release these singularly
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/20-x-2016-1c-ONE-CENTS-PROOF-COINS-ONLY-10-000-MINTED-WORLDWIDE-RARE-BULK-/322353047254?hash=item4b0dbd26d6:g:7-kAAOSwgZ1XqTTD
What the go with these is that they probably have a deal going with the mint and they're also a cotton and co stooge, if you look at some of the other listing they have quite a few, look for the black "mint" rolls :blink:
They have also stolen a heap of RAM generic pic's like the link posted above where they have a business strike coin as a proof and they have Uncirculated UNC coins as seen in the link below, and it's the same pic
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2016-1c-ONE-CENT-UNCIRCULATED-UNC-COIN-ONLY-10-000-MINTED-WORLD-WIDE-RARE-/322328092834?hash=item4b0c4060a2:g:7-kAAOSwgZ1XqTTD
One thing I noticed and it really annoys me is when people take a business strike coin from a mint set and say they're "specimen" coin when they're no more specimen than I am :dash1:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2017-Royal-Australian-Mint-50c-Specimen-Coin-Removed-from-Uncirculated-Year-Set-/322408050543?hash=item4b11046f6f:g:1qQAAOSwjDZYkBD3
They also have "scare" rolls :laugh2:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1968-Australian-20c-Security-Roll-Unc-20-Cent-Coins-Rare-Scare-/322424179829?hash=item4b11fa8c75:g:wZAAAOSw4A5YpCXw
but it's funny how on this "scare" roll below they can put NOT MINT OR BANK ROLL
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1972-Australian-50c-Security-Roll-Unc-Coins-Rare-Scare-NOT-MINT-OR-BANK-ROLL-/322424176207?hash=item4b11fa7e4f:g:FoIAAOSwWxNYpCUE
So good luck if they're all the one coin year and not a mixed roll.
There are NOT 2016 Proof 1c coins, These coins are out of the "In come the Dollars Cents sets".
These are NOT Proofs although they are pretty much a Specimen strike.
With this sellers affiliation with Cotton & Co I strongly suspect that these are just the "Reject" coins from one of Cotton & Co's Mass submissions to PCGS.
I Love the "All In Free capsules" Bit as these coins were originally supplied by RAM in the capsules :laugh2:
Not only are these falsely claimed as being Proofs the seller hasn't even bothered to use his/her own images and have just Stolen the RAM image :dodgy:
has the listing been edited?
it says circulated (for the 1 c)
same seller:
same pictures
Runway - 20 x 2016 1c ONE CENTS PROOF COINS! ONLY 10,000 MINTED WORLDWIDE RARE BULK
AJ's - link = 2016 1c ONE CENT UNCIRCULATED UNC COIN! ONLY 10,000 MINTED WORLD WIDE RARE
but 'proof' in the item specifics
Nah it still says proof in the first link runway put up RG.
It still says "Proof" in the listing when I look it up.
The Seller has been made aware of this mistake and still insists on this line of BS :dodgy:
This Image isn't the best but it only took me less than a minuet to take the images and to edit them so that I could get a side by side image.
It's Not that hard and is something that these lazy so and so's should do instead of just stealing someone else's images.
NGC attributes these as DPL or Deep Proof Like and NOT as Proofs as this seller is claiming.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/2017_1c.jpg)
PCGS has graded 58 of these so far as MSXX (Regular Strike)
All misleading titles aside... they're really good coins from the 2016 sets.
Quote from: 'LooseChange' pid='106315' dateline='1488795086'All misleading titles aside... they're really good coins from the 2016 sets.
Yes they are But they are Not Proofs :angel:
The Wedding Set coins are Better than these and "Could" be mistaken as unfrosted Proofs But the "In come the Dollars/Cents" Set coins are not in the same class.
I wonder what this network done with the other denominations ?
Quote from: 'runway' pid='106317' dateline='1488799589'I wonder what this network done with the other denominations ?
The round 50c coins Which were the "Stars" of this set were put on the market very early on in the peace at $80 a pop (the "Retail" cost of the entire set) I can't remember But there is a good chance that there were even "Pre Sales" of these available back then.
The 1c & 2c coins in this set are relatively popular with collectors But the 5c, 10c and 20c coins are all available via circulation or the baby sets in the same designs But are not the same quality of strike that the coins from the "In come the Dollars/Cents" set are.
Maybe this is the reason why the "Push" to convince buyers that these coins are Proofs so that they will have a platform to be able to market the 5 10 and 20 cent coins at a later date :dodgy:
Don't get me wrong these coins from this particular set are superb and are beautifully produced But to buy individual coins or even sets from a network of sellers/dealers that have already picked the best examples out of these sets to be sent to PCGS to be graded is Not a great idea. :ok:
$339.00 for 20 cents of face value?? ... OK they are well made coins but at that price they are having a laugh aren't they?
Mike
Whoa whoa whoa.
Let's not go bringing face value into this.
That's like bringing an AK47 to a pillow fight
QuoteThat's like bringing an AK47 to a pillow fight
IF I had an AK47, I would take it to a pillow fight :diablo::laugh2:
:laugh2: you know I don't doubt that for a mintute :)