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Title: 2000 Sydney Olympic $5 coins
Post by: brismike on February 17, 2017, 09:50:50 AM
The 28 Sydney Olympic $5 coins were produced jointly by the RAM and the Perth Mint. Does anyone know which mint made which coins? Is there any way of telling by some tiny mark on them?

Cheers Mike
Title: RE: 2000 Sydney Olympic $5 coins
Post by: trout on February 17, 2017, 10:05:36 PM
I always thought that all the coins in the 28 coin set were minted at RAM in Canberra :angel:
I learn something new every day :good:
Title: RE: 2000 Sydney Olympic $5 coins
Post by: brismike on February 17, 2017, 10:14:15 PM
Well on the back of each coin card it says this ...

"The result of a collaboration between the Royal Australian Mint and the Perth Mint, this specially produced coin is part of a collection of 28 commemorative coins representing sports of the Sydney 2000 Olympics"

On the back page of the special album folder that I have got my 28 coins in, you will find the Logo's of the RAM and Perth Mint's.

So who made what? Seems like the question has never been broached before?

Cheers Mike
Title: RE: 2000 Sydney Olympic $5 coins
Post by: trout on February 17, 2017, 10:15:36 PM
You could check the Mint determinations for 2000 :angel:
Title: RE: 2000 Sydney Olympic $5 coins
Post by: Fulvio on February 17, 2017, 10:27:01 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='105443' dateline='1487331936'You could check the Mint determinations for 2000 :angel:

You'd probably get further by asking the Perth Mint. :angel:
Title: RE: 2000 Sydney Olympic $5 coins
Post by: Unicorn on February 17, 2017, 10:29:00 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='105441' dateline='1487331336'I learn something new every day :good:

Me too ..... I have never heard the word broached before, now I know what it means. (though the other meaning of piercing a cask does sound more enticing).
Title: RE: 2000 Sydney Olympic $5 coins
Post by: brismike on February 17, 2017, 10:46:50 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='105443' dateline='1487331936'You could check the Mint determinations for 2000 :angel:

Good Idea Trout .. They actually were minted over a few years from 1997 to 2000 even though they were all dated 2000. Some have the 3rd Portrait and some have the 4th Portrait of the Queen.

1997 Six were released (All Makleouf)
1998 Seven were released (3 Makleouf, 4 Rank-Broadly)
1999 Seven were released (All Rank-Broadly)
2000 Eight were released (All rank-Broadly)

From this it seems that the 4 Rank-Broadly coins released in 1998 were the first Australian coins to have the 4th Portrait.

Where can I get the Mint determinations from?

cheers Mike
Title: RE: 2000 Sydney Olympic $5 coins
Post by: brismike on February 18, 2017, 12:03:50 AM
I've just fired off an email to the Perth Mint. I'll let you know the response if/when they reply.

Cheers Mike
Title: RE: 2000 Sydney Olympic $5 coins
Post by: Hercules on February 18, 2017, 10:15:55 PM
Quote from: 'brismike' pid='105449' dateline='1487333810'1997 Six were released (All Makleouf)
1998 Seven were released (3 Makleouf, 4 Rank-Broadly)
1999 Seven were released (All Rank-Broadly)
2000 Eight were released (All rank-Broadly)

Interesting... I thought that each of the 28 designs could have either portrait, leading to 56 different coins.
Title: RE: 2000 Sydney Olympic $5 coins
Post by: brismike on February 19, 2017, 04:58:09 PM
I'm not absolutely sure that you are wrong Hercules .. I am only going on the coins that I have. If what you have said is correct there are a few more coins I need to get lol.

This is what mine are .... So if anyone has any that have different Obverses please let us know to confirm the doubt about the obverses.

Title of Coin with Issue Number      Obverse            Issue Year    Month
Sydney Olympics 01 - Athletics      Maklouf      1997   October
Sydney Olympics 05 - Hockey      Maklouf      1997   October
Sydney Olympics 09 - Archery      Maklouf      1997   October
Sydney Olympics 13 - Gymnastics      Maklouf      1997   October
Sydney Olympics 17 - Sailing      Maklouf      1997   October
Sydney Olympics 21 - Weight Lifting                 Maklouf      1997   October
Sydney Olympics 08 - Triathlon      Maklouf      1998   April
Sydney Olympics 20 - Football      Maklouf      1998   April
Sydney Olympics 25 - Cycling      Maklouf      1998   April
Sydney Olympics 04 - Canoe / Kayak                 Rank-Broadly   1998   September
Sydney Olympics 12 - Handball      Rank-Broadly   1998   September
Sydney Olympics 16 - Softball      Rank-Broadly   1998   September
Sydney Olympics 24 - Wrestling      Rank-Broadly   1998   September
Sydney Olympics 06 - Basketball      Rank-Broadly   1999   April
Sydney Olympics 19 - Taekwondo      Rank-Broadly   1999   April
Sydney Olympics 28 - Tennis                    Rank-Broadly   1999   April
Sydney Olympics 14 - Badminton      Rank-Broadly   1999   September
Sydney Olympics 15 - Fencing      Rank-Broadly   1999   September
Sydney Olympics 23 - Table Tennis                 Rank-Broadly   1999   September
Sydney Olympics 26 - Shooting      Rank-Broadly   1999   September
Sydney Olympics 07 - Judo                    Rank-Broadly   2000   February
Sydney Olympics 10 - Rowing      Rank-Broadly   2000   February
Sydney Olympics 18 - Vollyball      Rank-Broadly   2000   February
Sydney Olympics 27 - Baseball      Rank-Broadly   2000   February
Sydney Olympics 02 - Aquatics      Rank-Broadly   2000   May
Sydney Olympics 03 - Modern Pentathlon   Rank-Broadly   2000   May
Sydney Olympics 11 - Boxing      Rank-Broadly   2000   May
Sydney Olympics 22 - Equestrian      Rank-Broadly   2000   May

Each coin had an issue number on the coin card ,  1 of 28, 15 of 28 etc, but as you can see they were not released in the order of the issue number. They were released in what seemed to be a completely random order. Although Coin 1 was the first one released, Coin 2 was not released until May 2000.

Cheers Mike
Title: RE: 2000 Sydney Olympic $5 coins
Post by: Hercules on February 19, 2017, 07:47:58 PM
Interesting... My guess is that those released with the Rank-Broadly portrait would only be available with that portrait, but that those released with the Maklouf portrait could have either, depending on when they were minted. Does anyone know whether the ones released with the Maklouf portrait were updated to use the Rank-Broadly portrait once the initial stock sold out? :dontknow:
Title: RE: 2000 Sydney Olympic $5 coins
Post by: brismike on February 21, 2017, 11:53:51 AM
Ok I got a reply from the Perth Mint regarding the $5 Sydney Olympic Aluminium Bronze coins, This is what I asked them ....

Hi at the Perth Mint
Would you please be able to answer a question for me?
I have got the complete album of 28 Sydney Olympic Aluminium-bronze $5 coins. On the back of each coin card it says .....
"The result of a collaboration between the Royal Australian Mint and the Perth Mint, this specially produced coin is part of a collection of 28 commemorative coins representing sports of the Sydney 2000 Olympics"
On the back page of the special album folder that I have got my 28 coins in, the RAM and Perth Mint's logos are both displayed.
Does this mean that some of the coins were minted at the RAM and some were minted at the Perth Mint?
The coins were released from 1997 to 2000 but all were dated 2000.
If you could solve this query it will satisfy a lot of enquiring minds.

This is the reply....
Hi Michael - Thank you for your enquiry. As far as I am aware, although the Olympic coin series was a joint project between the Royal Australian Mint and the Perth Mint, the aluminium bronze coins were produced by the Royal Australian Mint. The gold coins appear to have been produced by the Perth Mint and the silver coins appear to have been a joint project (source: Pocket Guide to Australian Coins and Banknotes 16th Edition by Greg Macdonald)
Kind regards,
Aaron Gibbs |  Retail Customer Service Officer, perthmint.com.au
So looks like they were all minted at the RAM, although he is quoting a fairly old MacDonald's book but that does correspond with the latest one too. We just needed to confirm it.

Regards Mike
Title: RE: 2000 Sydney Olympic $5 coins
Post by: Hercules on February 21, 2017, 03:33:45 PM
I like the circular reasoning. :winkextra:
Title: RE: 2000 Sydney Olympic $5 coins
Post by: seedyrom on March 19, 2017, 04:53:38 PM
Did the silver ones actually have any sporting theme?

I have a set of the 28 UNC Al/Bronze coins which are all sporting.

The gold coins have sporting motifs.
(http://www.jaggardsbullion.com.au/media/images/product/medium/2000-100-sydney-olympic-8-coins-gold-proof-set-324-2.jpg)

But were the Silver ones purely about flora and fauna? Or am I mistaking this set for another?


(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/On0AAOSw1DtXJEWX/s-l1600.jpg)

Eight of the 16 Silver coins celebrate Australias unique fauna and flora, and the other 8 depict aspects of the nations cultural development.  The Royal australian Mint and the Perth Mint shared production of the coins.  Each is surrounded by a rich border of Australian flora.

From http://www.wynyardcoins.com.au/shop/australian-decimal-coins/royal-australian-mint/2000/ I've just grabbed the Mintmark and popped into a table below.

EDIT: No table. Hopefully the moderators could consider enabling the code on this forum.

Canberra Mint


Perth Mint







 
Title: RE: 2000 Sydney Olympic $5 coins
Post by: brismike on March 19, 2017, 08:44:07 PM
The silver proofs are very nice coins that's for sure.

Mike
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