The lady at the local PO tells me that you can't send currency overseas and can't put coins on the declaration
I find that a bit strange as they go to get graded and coins are bought from overseas.
What do you use as the terminology on the customs declaration for sending coins
I'm a bit puzzled by this
"Numismatic items" Is what I put on there.
NEVER put "Coins" on the declaration form especially if you are sending to the US :ok:
If the "lady" at the PO doesn't like that then use a different Post Office :)
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Quote from: 'gabby' pid='103684' dateline='1483923401'Something else I have learned
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If you ever have to make a claim with auspost NEVER tell them it's coins or notes as they won't pay you as I found out the hard way even though they say you can send but can't all in the same breath and no one wants to know anything about it :@ Fair trading sends you to the postal ombudsman and then they say there's nothing they can do and same as seeing your local member so it's all a really bad joke if you ask me and don't worry about asking how the dealers or auction houses do or even the mint or auspost them selves as they all sell coins as it's all secret squirrel stuff :dodgy:
put numismatic items.
I use Numismatic items or metal tokens.....never have any problem.
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As already advised "Numismatic Items" is the way to go.
"Collectibles"?
Putting Coins, Collectables or Bullion on the customs declaration is a beacon to the unscrupulous in the Mail system.
Numismatic items is a truthful declaration and unless you are a collector Most people wouldn't have a clue what that means :ok:
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='103687' dateline='1483926355'If you ever have to make a claim with auspost NEVER tell them it's coins or notes as they won't pay you as I found out the hard way even though they say you can send but can't all in the same breath and no one wants to know anything about it :@ Fair trading sends you to the postal ombudsman and then they say there's nothing they can do and same as seeing your local member so it's all a really bad joke if you ask me and don't worry about asking how the dealers or auction houses do or even the mint or auspost them selves as they all sell coins as it's all secret squirrel stuff :dodgy:
I have to put a claim in with the post office, they lost a couple of bullion grade common date shillings out of an envelope (their machinery oh so gently split the sides of the envelope):@ so on the claim form should I say they lost some tokens or what?
QuoteI have to put a claim in with the post office, they lost a couple of bullion grade common date shillings out of an envelope (their machinery oh so gently split the sides of the envelope) so on the claim form should I say they lost some tokens or what?
Maybe you should have a "Word" with whoever stupidly posted loose coins in a flimsy envelope :ok:
Quote from: 'trout' pid='103695' dateline='1483934297'QuoteI have to put a claim in with the post office, they lost a couple of bullion grade common date shillings out of an envelope (their machinery oh so gently split the sides of the envelope) so on the claim form should I say they lost some tokens or what?
Maybe you should have a "Word" with whoever stupidly posted loose coins in a flimsy envelope :ok:
It was a post office approved type of envelope and the shillings were in a part sheet (the PVC type) so it first required the post office to move the contents around enough to pop the shillings out of the slots. Seller probably didn't factor in how roughly the post office treats the mail. Having had a few thousand envelopes posted to me over the years I've seen even a number of bubble padded envelopes with splits from the rough handling.
Quote from: 'trout' pid='103693' dateline='1483933085'Putting Coins, Collectables or Bullion on the customs declaration is a beacon to the unscrupulous in the Mail system.
Numismatic items is a truthful declaration and unless you are a collector Most people wouldn't have a clue what that means :ok:
i guess most don't know what "numismatic" means. Unless they google it and then they know it's valuable.
Anything can be a collectible. A kinder surprise toy is a collectible.
Why not put "customised incontinence pads"? No one will steal that.
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='103694' dateline='1483933209'Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='103687' dateline='1483926355'If you ever have to make a claim with auspost NEVER tell them it's coins or notes as they won't pay you as I found out the hard way even though they say you can send but can't all in the same breath and no one wants to know anything about it :@ Fair trading sends you to the postal ombudsman and then they say there's nothing they can do and same as seeing your local member so it's all a really bad joke if you ask me and don't worry about asking how the dealers or auction houses do or even the mint or auspost them selves as they all sell coins as it's all secret squirrel stuff :dodgy:
I have to put a claim in with the post office, they lost a couple of bullion grade common date shillings out of an envelope (their machinery oh so gently split the sides of the envelope):@ so on the claim form should I say they lost some tokens or what?
Sorry to hear your having trouble with them Neal, yes maybe token and see what happens, it really is very frustrating how rough the post is.
Quote from: 'kchan1111' pid='103697' dateline='1483935672'Quote from: 'trout' pid='103693' dateline='1483933085'Putting Coins, Collectables or Bullion on the customs declaration is a beacon to the unscrupulous in the Mail system.
Numismatic items is a truthful declaration and unless you are a collector Most people wouldn't have a clue what that means :ok:
i guess most don't know what "numismatic" means. Unless they google it and then they know it's valuable.
Anything can be a collectible. A kinder surprise toy is a collectible.
Why not put "customised incontinence pads"? No one will steal that.
That's funny kchan but there'd be some bastard that would, some people just can't help them selves :dodgy:
Why not put "customised incontinence pads"? No one will steal that.
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Hillary Clinton might:winkextra:
In the end I guess it's down to the wording. Just have to find something instead of Coins
I knew one coin dealer that used to put "machined metal discs" on the form. They even got themselves a second registered company name that sounded like a car parts company, to use it with. The theory was, (a) it was technically true, (b) an x-ray would reveal that the contents were, in fact, carefully packaged machined metal discs, and (c) no-one would want to steal random small car parts.
Of course, if they actually lost something, they couldn't complain about it to Aust Post.
The sad and simple fact is, Australia Post's regulations do not take into account the concept of collectable money. The regs are black and white, no exceptions. If you want no-questions-asked delivery, use a courier service.
I find it a joke that the mint and auspost can send coins but say you can't, well you can but if anything happens it's tough titties.
Quote from: 'Sapyx' pid='103702' dateline='1483942329'I knew one coin dealer that used to put "machined metal discs" on the form. They even got themselves a second registered company name that sounded like a car parts company, to use it with. The theory was, (a) it was technically true, (b) an x-ray would reveal that the contents were, in fact, carefully packaged machined metal discs, and (c) no-one would want to steal random small car parts.
Of course, if they actually lost something, they couldn't complain about it to Aust Post.
The sad and simple fact is, Australia Post's regulations do not take into account the concept of collectable money. The regs are black and white, no exceptions. If you want no-questions-asked delivery, use a courier service.
Yes, but most sellers on fleabay only send things via the post, so it isn't a matter of what we want but what the seller offers. Is it also a sign that the post office does not trust its employees to not steal cash? As for how unreliable the post office is their insurance rates of $2.50 per $100 implies that they think 1 in 40 items will be lost/stolen.
Quotetheir insurance rates of $2.50 per $100 implies that they think 1 in 40 items will be lost/stolen.
They would have 'crunched' the figures -it is not "think"; they know.
And what have they done about it? I have no idea but suspect not much at all. Far easier just to levy the victims with a higher premium.
Edit, on further reflection.
Probably only about one in 50 items on average -they have to take their cut too!
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='103705' dateline='1483949205'Quotetheir insurance rates of $2.50 per $100 implies that they think 1 in 40 items will be lost/stolen.
They would have 'crunched' the figures -it is not "think"; they know.
And what have they done about it? I have no idea but suspect not much at all. Far easier just to levy the victims with a higher premium.
Edit, on further reflection.
Probably only about one in 50 items on average -they have to take their cut too!
I have sent hundreds of items via Aus Post and have yet to have a parcel that has tracking on it go astray.
I have had problems with delays but I have never had anything stolen or lost in the mail.
The only time I have had any items disappear or apparently were not delivered was when I have sent eBay items without tracking, Every other package I have sent to people without tracking has arrived without any problems.
I have always used "Hobby Supplies" on the declaration.
Once, one of the staff at the post office said it needed to
be more specific, so I added "Metal discs". Otherwise
never had a problem. :)
I always put 'Numismatic Supplies'. What percentage of people know what 'Numismatic' means.....50%, if that?
Numiswhat :blink:
Oh a shinny disc or little bit of paper collector :)