Interesting coin.
(https://eshop.ramint.gov.au/forms/Stuart-Devlin-Background.png)
Quote from: facebookIn honour of the illustrious career of Stuart Devlin AO, the Mint is releasing a coin featuring the never-before-struck 'Kangaroo and Joey' based on Devlin's original 1966 concept for the two cent piece. This iconic image has stood the test of time, a testament to the immunity of great design and a true hallmark of Devlin's enduring appeal. This coin will be available to purchase ($12.50 each) in February however expressions of interest are now open via our eshop to receive further information about the availability of this coin: https://eshop.ramint.gov.au/forms/sd-register.html
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/8124830-3x2-700x467.jpg)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-15/artistry-of-australian-coin-designer-stuart-devlin-on-display/8124700
I was waiting for a thread on this. I think it looks pretty neat and I have put in an expression of interest.
Me too. Are there also second designs from SD for the other coins?
If so why not make it a set?
"Stuart Devlin's proposed coin designs included a cockatoo and a marlin"
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/7160202-16x9-940x529.jpg)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-11/decimal-currency-coin-designs/7160202
I saw some of the proposed designs that didn't make it from various artists displayed at the mint in Canberra..i would like one of each for sure.
i have been told that Andor Meszaros had it nailed except that he didn't follow the requested theme for one of the denominations and lost his tender altogether
although i prefer the Devlin designs anyways - not as busy as Mesaros's ones
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='103029' dateline='1482405554'i have been told that Andor Meszaros had it nailed except that he didn't follow the requested theme for one of the denominations and lost his tender altogether
pics?
Found it!
Are these the ones?
http://collections.museumvictoria.com.au/items/1477492
Looks good. But I agree with you I like Devlin's design better.
yes that is the set
and I vaguely recall that the shield that included the kangaroo and emu were missing from the designs ... something like that
This design didn't make it into production for some very good reasons.
Firstly the Frilled Lizard design simply blows this one out of the water IMHO and as there were already 2 coins with better kangaroo designs on them (50 $1) having another coin with these spring loaded rodents on them would be pretty silly :angel:
Here's the plaster of another of Stuart Devlins designs, a concept of 'Koalas" for the 1966 decimal design competition -5 cent.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/1966-5c-concept-devlin.jpg)
I like the educational bonus with the designs showing what each animal may eat.... the koala above eating gum-leaves.. the platypus with yabby... kookaburra with snake.. i love it.
as anyone got any idea of the dimensions of this coin, Is it going to be a standard size 2c coin or some other odd size ?
Standard size 2c RAM have these on show at mintshop
Quote from: 'runway' pid='103956' dateline='1484307747'Standard size 2c RAM have these on show at mintshop
Also notice this book now on sale on RAM online shop.
https://eshop.ramint.gov.au/Stuart-Devlin-Catalogue/711329.aspx
Worth getting? No details other than what is there. How many pages?
Quote from: 'runway' pid='103956' dateline='1484307747'Standard size 2c RAM have these on show at mintshop
Thanks for the update :good:
Quote from: 'kchan1111' pid='103964' dateline='1484374191'Quote from: 'runway' pid='103956' dateline='1484307747'Standard size 2c RAM have these on show at mintshop
Also notice this book now on sale on RAM online shop.
https://eshop.ramint.gov.au/Stuart-Devlin-Catalogue/711329.aspx
Worth getting? No details other than what is there. How many pages?
Worth getting I reckon even though not sighted should be a nice addition to the bookshelf :yahoo:
Anyone got any idea of when this 2 cent coin will be available? I put in an expression of interest but got no response at all yet?
Cheers Mike
Quote from: mint e-mail2017 2c Bronze Uncirculated Coin
Jump onto the eShop from 8.30 am tomorrow, Friday 3 February 2017 where you can purchase the 2017 2c Bronze Uncirculated Coin. This coin is a fitting acknowledgment to the work of Devlin and a perfect memento to the Stuart Devlin - The Designer with the Midas Touch exhibition.
Quote from: 'LooseChange' pid='104778' dateline='1486023795'Quote from: mint e-mail2017 2c Bronze Uncirculated Coin
Jump onto the eShop from 8.30 am tomorrow, Friday 3 February 2017 where you can purchase the 2017 2c Bronze Uncirculated Coin. This coin is a fitting acknowledgment to the work of Devlin and a perfect memento to the Stuart Devlin - The Designer with the Midas Touch exhibition.
What's the mintage? (Now now be nice, we all know how you feel about RAM mintage figures... :angel:)
QuoteWhat's the mintage?
That is anyone's guess But after the fiasco with the mintage of the HM Birthday coins I imagine that the mintage of this coin will be pretty generous.
They have the numbers of the expressions of interest to work on so I don't think that they will stuff this one up :ok:
You sure they can't stuff it up trout ;)
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='104791' dateline='1486039608'You sure they can't stuff it up trout ;)
If they put some effort into it I suppose they would be able to :angel:
Quote from: 'kchan1111' pid='104783' dateline='1486028354'What's the mintage? (Now now be nice, we all know how you feel about RAM mintage figures... :angel:)
None given in email.. also no mention of price. We will see at 830 i guess.
I just ignore the mintage now. It cannot be trusted.
QuoteI just ignore the mintage now. It cannot be trusted.
The HM Birthday coin mintages are the first that I am aware of where the mintage for an NCLT offering has been manipulated and changed.
In every other case that I am aware of the mintages given by RAM for NCLT issues is the
maximum and in many cases the actual mintage is less because the maximum mintage wasn't sold.
The Masterpieces in Silver sets are a great example of this.
The 1992 Masterpieces in Silver "Royal Ladies" Set was also a Made to order issue and I haven't heard of any shenanigans regarding this made to order mintage.
I am almost certain that after the HM Birthday coins debacle RAM will be very careful Not to make that sort of mistake in the future.
Im really not trying to discredit all mintages with my comment.. my perspective when purchasing has just changed to not consider low mintages a selling point anymore. Im not sure the mint has actually acknowledged a problem with the HM 90th bday mintage? The last time i read anything they were denying and doubling-down on claimed mintage.
QuoteThe last time i read anything they were denying and doubling-down on claimed mintage.
They flat out Lied that's what they did :dodgy:
This coin has been available for the last 10-15 minutes. Mintage 30,000.
Yes just seen this on FB Herc
Have just purchased 3 of the new 2c bronze coins, mintage of only 30K. Get in quick everyone
Put my order in... website was so slow... ebayers might be clogging it up :D
I just ordered 3 as well ( I'll probably regret it) I also took the opportunity to grab another bag of 50c changeovers at face seeing as I had to pay $10 postage on the copper coins anyway :)
Quote from: 'LooseChange' pid='104806' dateline='1486072328'Put my order in... website was so slow... ebayers might be clogging it up :D
These have been on sale for 30min and they are already on ebay .
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HOT-Never-Before-Australia-2017-Stuart-Devlin-Kangaroo-Joey-2-cents-2c-/252752649027?hash=item3ad93b5b43:g:doAAAOSw4DJYk6oC
Old Mate in this listing is only selling the tin, No coins included :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
Looking at all the different listings it's obvious the RAM doesn't give a hoot about copyright with them all using the ram's generic pic's. I think this coin will be a pretty good money maker for the mint but hopefully I might get one for face value one day, but then how do I pay for it, maybe I could exchange one of my old two cents for a new one :)
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='104808' dateline='1486077196'Looking at all the different listings it's obvious the RAM doesn't give a hoot about copyright with them all using the ram's generic pic's. I think this coin will be a pretty good money maker for the mint but hopefully I might get one for face value one day, but then how do I pay for it, maybe I could exchange one of my old two cents for a new one :)
It's no longer in circulation, how do you get one at face?
QuoteIt's no longer in circulation, how do you get one at face?
AJ lives that far off the beaten track they still use the 1c and 2c coins at the local general store :angel::laugh2:
:laugh2: Yeah that's about right trout :blink: Well what I was thinking was that I could take some of my old 1 & 2's back to the bank (where I got most from anyway) and exchange them for one of these new one's as people get rid of dad and pop's collection as I think that's what happens when I get them ATM. I go in and ask get any paper notes or old coins and sometimes they say yes we have 3 or 4 dollars in copper so I say hand it over and they're happy to get rid of them as it saves them paperwork sending them back.
I am wondering if this coin is the "Bait" and that the other designs that didn't make the "Cut" are going to be on offer by RAM at a later stage with an overpriced Silver 50c being the Crown in the collection :angel:
I think there's a very high chance of that mate. How many designs are there that didn't make it.
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='104844' dateline='1486165332'I think there's a very high chance of that mate. How many designs are there that didn't make it.
I don't know but I imagine that there are quite a few of them.
i did ask on Facebook if they plan to release all the other alternative designs, perhaps as a set. they said no at this stage. but who knows
If the RAM said "Not at this stage" you can translate that to mean "We definitely will some time in the future". That is guaranteed.
Cheers Mike
Quote from: 'brismike' pid='104854' dateline='1486176117'If the RAM said "Not at this stage" you can translate that to mean "We definitely will some time in the future". That is guaranteed.
Cheers Mike
Hey isn't there was a PDF document with all the upcoming designs in 2017? They have to include that in there right?
I was quite excited about the 2c when I first saw it. But now after a month I have cool on it. They waited too long. You want to get them when they are hot and horny for it.
What is it with everyone ordering in 3s? I ordered 3 for myself and 3 for someone else, and then I come on here and find out that everyone else has ordered 3. There must be something about us humans that makes us love the number 3! :laugh2:
Anyway, has anyone else noticed that they listed the wrong metal for these coins on the RAM website? It says they're made out of aluminium bronze, but isn't that what they make the $1 and $2 coins out of? Weren't the 1c and 2c coins made out of copper instead?
I'd also like to thank Trout for his suggestion that I add some of the Changeover baggies onto every order I make. You can rest assured that there'll now be fewer left for everyone else. :D
Now, I just have to hope that Trout is wrong about these concept designs becoming a new form of granny bait. :s
Has anyone actually received their 2c coin yet?
I ordered and paid for mine on the 3rd and still no notification of shipping as of yet.
Mines scheduled to arrive tomorrow if the tracking is right.
Mine is waiting collection at Post Office.
I received the notification yesterday, and it says it's now in Sydney. Apparently, it will take another couple of days for the kangaroos to hop all the way up to Brisbane. :laugh2:
Quote from: 'trout' pid='105031' dateline='1486517021'Has anyone actually received their 2c coin yet?
I ordered and paid for mine on the 3rd and still no notification of shipping as of yet.
Probably got held up by those mint bags :P :taunt:
I just got the good to go email from RAM :)
Yes received my order today
Quote from: 'runway' pid='105050' dateline='1486553704'Yes received my order today
you live in canberra don't you runway?
Has anyone got images of their New 2c to share?
Just received mine
Quote from: 'Hercules' pid='105030' dateline='1486516531'What is it with everyone ordering in 3s? I ordered 3 for myself and 3 for someone else, and then I come on here and find out that everyone else has ordered 3. There must be something about us humans that makes us love the number 3! :laugh2:
Anyway, has anyone else noticed that they listed the wrong metal for these coins on the RAM website? It says they're made out of aluminium bronze, but isn't that what they make the $1 and $2 coins out of? Weren't the 1c and 2c coins made out of copper instead?
I'd also like to thank Trout for his suggestion that I add some of the Changeover baggies onto every order I make. You can rest assured that there'll now be fewer left for everyone else. :D
Now, I just have to hope that Trout is wrong about these concept designs becoming a new form of granny bait. :s
THE PACKAGING SAYS THEY ARE BRONZE (i thought they were copper)
Bronze is an alloy consisting primarily of copper, commonly with about 12% tin and often with the addition of other metals (such as aluminium, manganese, nickel or zinc)
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='105063' dateline='1486590661'Quote from: 'runway' pid='105050' dateline='1486553704'Yes received my order today
you live in canberra don't you runway?
I'm based there but work FIFO always good to be back home on 19/5 roster :wavemulticolor:
oh gosh - are you in the mines
bloody hot work that !!!
although Canberra is one bloody hot place as well - i thought when we moved here that we'd be leaving the north queensland heat - arrived 7th january 1999 in a heatwave - first item to be installed in the house was the single small window airconditioner that we brought with us
Tasmania is starting to look good to me
I got a call back from the Mint - bronze and yes 88% copper with no exact % for the other alloy metals
didn't expect a call mind you
anyways the webpage has been corrected now
Stuart Devlin - Exhibition Coin
To coincide with the Royal Australian Mint's exhibition Stuart Devlin - The Designer with the Midas Touch, this special release offers a unique glimpse into what might have been. Featuring one of Devlin's original proposed sketches for the two cent coin, it is a testimony to a designer whose mind has always been overflowing with ideas. Coin collectors, history buffs, art and design enthusiasts will enjoy adding this curious piece to their collections.
Denomination Metal Diameter Mass Finish
Mintage
They have corrected:
2c Bronze 21.59 5.20g Uncirculated 30 000
I think the 1&2 cent coins in the in come the dollars cents sets were also bronze as they look a bit different to a regular 1&2 cent coins.
I actually think they look better in bronze myself :good:
Thanks for getting that corrected, Robbiegal. I was going to wait until I received them to see what the packaging says, but I guess that's irrelevant now.
packaging says bronze
but the website did have aluminum bronze
to me 88% copper - is a copper coin
but anyhow i have it wrong
My coins finally arrived today :yahoo:
They are in Great condition for a change But oddly they don't have an "SD" on the reverse design that I can see.
This strikes me as being a bit Odd considering that these were issued to celebrate Stuart Devlin's work.
On a side note, I ordered a baggy of the changeover 50c coins with these and RAM also sent one of the empty changeover folder with it :good:
QuoteWhat is it with everyone ordering in 3s? I ordered 3 for myself and 3 for someone else, and then I come on here and find out that everyone else has ordered 3.
Maybe we were hoping that RAM would round down from 6c to 5c and charge us accordingly :laugh2:
As I haven't seen any images of these other that the generic RAM images posted yet.
Here are mine :ok:
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/devlin_2c.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/devlin_2c1.jpg)
Great pics Trout got mine yesterday , look much better out of the plastic:good: . Strange about the no SD might be an error :biggrin:
I thought where the joey's ear joins it's Mum might be?
Nope can't see one Uni
Quote from: 'AussieSilver' pid='105771' dateline='1487918463'Strange about the no SD might be an error :biggrin:
Sorry, I confused you AS. I did mean it looked like a cud error at the join, though my comment could easily refer to the SD.
Great photo btw Trout!
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='105793' dateline='1487981556'I did mean it looked like a cud error at the join. Great photo btw Trout!
It does appear that there might be a small cud at that junction.
Maybe trout can get us a nice close up of the area, but not until he's recovered from his op. :biggrin:
All's good Uni :biggrin:
QuoteMaybe trout can get us a nice close up of the area, but not until he's recovered from his op. :biggrin:
This is a blown up image of the area.
I am not sure if it is a cud or just part of the design.
I will look at the other 2 coins a bit later, My arm is giving me gyp at the moment :ok:
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/devlin_2c2.jpg)
Here are the other 2 coins, they are all pretty much the same where the ear touches the body.
So I recon Not a cud :ok:
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/devlin_2c5.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/devlin_2c3.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/devlin_2c2~0.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/devlin_2c4.jpg)
I have found a small "wrinkle/crease" by the rim on one of my coins.. i only noticed it because there was a weird "dot" on that particular coin. I will get some photos up when i can.
Just received mine today didn't take tooooooo long :whistle2:
Bought the book as well. Page 20, left hand side down the bottom, on the 5 cent frilled neck lizard. The echidna was was chosen instead on the 5 cent and the lizard for the 1 cent piece. :dodgy: The plats in the opposite page has 3 fingers only on the plaster design.
Bit disappointed no pics of the 10 cent.
coming from rim... anyone know what causes such an imperfection?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2827/32742255654_b39a1c3845_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RTjBTd)2017-03-22_203754_365 (https://flic.kr/p/RTjBTd) by m m (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147293482@N06/), on Flickr
Some dot imperfection. Dont know what from.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2940/33455988251_e03e785775_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SYoFHD)2017-03-22_203410_855 (https://flic.kr/p/SYoFHD) by m m (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147293482@N06/), on Flickr
No idea on either sorry LC, the rim is interesting and could well be a fault in the die where it's split and now slightly out of alignment and the dot could be anything. Can you tell if the dot is in the metal or has been stamped in :huh:
I dont know AJ, it looks like a blemish... is best i can describe. I might have to try to recreate it on another coin.
The dot seems like corrosion to me at a guess.. but i really don't know. Maybe a tiny drop of something got on the coin. Anyone else find dots like these on their 2c coins?
I have tried googling creases or wrinkles on coins but didn't get anywhere. I'm really not knowledgeable enough of the minting process to guess at whats going on with the crease.
Both images of the same coin for what its worth.
Mark might have an idea as he's pretty cluey with this sort of thing.
Great photos LC. :good:
I'm leaning towards the rim being a "rim burr", but as AJ said I think Mark would certainly know. There's a thread on one of my coins where Mark provides a link to rim burrs on google.
With regards to the dot, I'm not sure how the coins are packaged (since I didn't get one) but perhaps it's some sort of adhesive that's gone astray?
Thanks for the suggestion of a burr, gave me a new search term to try... pre-strike issue with the planchet could be what caused the end result of a crease appearance.
The packaging is the press-fit sort of capsule common with the coins presented on a card.