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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Pre-Decimal Coins => Topic started by: Zersfrez on December 12, 2016, 07:12:36 PM

Title: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: Zersfrez on December 12, 2016, 07:12:36 PM
Hi, my father has a comprehensive Australian pre-decimal coin collection he would like to pass on to his grandchildren. There are many and varied coins but one in particular is the threepence 22/21 over date. He came across this coin some forty years ago and has stated that it has some value. I've attached a photograph the coin to see if anyone can shed light on the value of the coin or any other info.

(img)http://photobucket.com/user/Zers31/media/IMG_7229%202.jpg.html(/img)
1922/21 Threepence overdate (http://photobucket.com/user/Zers31/media/IMG_7229%202.jpg.html)
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: keldaw on December 12, 2016, 07:23:59 PM
Quote from: 'Zersfrez' pid='102640' dateline='1481532156'Hi, my father has a comprehensive Australian pre-decimal coin collection he would like to pass on to his grandchildren. There are many and varied coins but one in particular is the threepence 22/21 over date. He came across this coin some forty years ago and has stated that it has some value. I've attached a photograph the coin to see if anyone can shed light on the value of the coin or any other info.

Zersfrez
I think you forgot the picture , always go to ebay , type it in and if any are for sale then that will give you a rough idea of the price of one .
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: r9453 on December 12, 2016, 07:30:02 PM
Quote from: 'Zersfrez' pid='102640' dateline='1481532156'Zersfrez

Welcome!
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: robbiegal on December 12, 2016, 09:16:04 PM
hello
and welcome
yes photos are good
it helps to be able to comment re: grade/quality , identify genuineness of the coin etc
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: gnome on December 13, 2016, 01:28:24 AM
A bit of info as well. http://triton.vg/T22.html
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: r9453 on December 13, 2016, 03:57:04 AM
Quote from: 'gnome' pid='102654' dateline='1481554704'A bit of info as well. http://triton.vg/T22.html

General over-date info:

http://www.triton.vg/overdate.html

Blue sheet:

http://www.bluesheet.com.au/Australia/Commonwealth_Coinage/Threepence/George_V/1922_21_Overdate_MS.html

PCGS ValueView (USD Prices):

http://www.pcgs.com/pop/valueview.aspx?s=395570

PCGS pop report:

(http://i.imgur.com/b6GprBj.jpg)
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: Zersfrez on December 13, 2016, 07:19:45 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='102644' dateline='1481539564'hello
and welcome
yes photos are good
it helps to be able to comment re: grade/quality , identify genuineness of the coin etc

Thanks for the reply. I tried to attach a photo but for some reason the attachment dosen't "stick" when i update the post.

Is there a way of pasting the image directly into this text location?
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: trout on December 13, 2016, 07:37:04 PM
Quote from: 'Zersfrez' pid='102693' dateline='1481618985'
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='102644' dateline='1481539564'hello
and welcome
yes photos are good
it helps to be able to comment re: grade/quality , identify genuineness of the coin etc

Thanks for the reply. I tried to attach a photo but for some reason the attachment dosen't "stick" when i update the post.

Is there a way of pasting the image directly into this text location?

:welcome:
To the Forum.
Markn posted a rather good explanation of how to add images in this thread :ok:
https://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=1086
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: Fr45h3R on December 13, 2016, 08:16:27 PM
Welcome to the forum.
Great coin to start with!
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: stevo1962 on December 13, 2016, 09:26:40 PM
Looks like a nice average condition coin and would most likely be worth
anything from $2000 up to $6000 or $7000 depending on what the obverse
looks like.The value rises sharply once you get beyond VG
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: r9453 on December 14, 2016, 03:34:43 AM
Great looking coin:

(http://i1169.photobucket.com/albums/r505/Zers31/IMG_7229%202.jpg)
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: Goldseeker on December 14, 2016, 08:08:19 PM
it is the one that pre decimal collectors do not have in their collection but would give an arm a leg to have one.

I have two of these.   The first cost me $1,850.00 from Max Stern many years ago and the second one cost me $6,700.00.

I am still after one for my own collection.

They are a nice coin to have and make sure that if you decide to sell the collection, don't let the buyer pull the wool over your eyes as they say.

I wouldn't let that one go for anything less than $5,000.00 regardless of what the obverse looks like.

You have a top coin there.
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: trout on December 14, 2016, 11:56:15 PM
I would get this coin certified by either PCGS or NGC Because nobody will pay Top dollar for it Raw :ok:
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: Nevol on December 15, 2016, 07:22:42 AM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='102725' dateline='1481708299'I have two of these.   The first cost me $1,850.00 from Max Stern many years ago and the second one cost me $6,700.00.

I am still after one for my own collection.
So whose collection are either/both of the other two in? :scratch_one-s_head:
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: Robster on December 15, 2016, 07:36:34 AM
:yeah_what_she_said:
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: r9453 on December 15, 2016, 08:17:50 AM
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='102745' dateline='1481749594':yeah_what_she_said:

+1

If you go to:

http://www.noble.com.au/

and use their excellent search function to look up 1922/1 Threepences you get about 250 results with which to compare estimates and hammer prices. Quite a lot are over-dates and a lot have images as well.
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: robbiegal on December 15, 2016, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='102743' dateline='1481748762'
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='102725' dateline='1481708299'I have two of these.   The first cost me $1,850.00 from Max Stern many years ago and the second one cost me $6,700.00.

I am still after one for my own collection.
So whose collection are either/both of the other two in? :scratch_one-s_head:


yes i was wondering bout that statement as well!!

authenticity is the key to these little guys  
the coin really has to be assessed as genuine
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: r9453 on December 15, 2016, 12:01:47 PM
Apparently there are two reverse die markers but I'm not sure what they are.
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: Goldseeker on December 15, 2016, 03:15:15 PM
1.   I have two adult children.

2.   I have two x 1930 pennies.

3.   I have two 1921/22 threepences.

4.   I have three 1923 halfpennies.

I need 2 and 3 for my own collection.
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: Nevol on December 15, 2016, 03:29:26 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='102759' dateline='1481777115'1.   I have two adult children.
2.   I have two x 1930 pennies.
3.   I have two 1921/22 threepences.  
4.   I have three 1923 halfpennies.
I need 2 and 3 for my own collection.
Do the adult children actively collect or are you making collections for them?

Either way, you're obviously a great Dad! :yahoo:
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: Goldseeker on December 15, 2016, 09:08:35 PM
It will be part of my (our) farewell present to them when I (we) fall off our perch.

Neither of them collect coins as I do.

One will get the pre decimal collection whilst the other gets the decimal collection

Both will get a 1930, 1923 and 1921/22 coin as well as the collections mentioned.
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: serial on December 16, 2016, 02:58:34 AM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='102784' dateline='1481798315'It will be part of my (our) farewell present to them when I (we) fall off our perch.

Neither of them collect coins as I do.

One will get the pre decimal collection whilst the other gets the decimal collection

Both will get a 1930, 1923 and 1921/22 coin as well as the collections mentioned.
lol who gets the best one?
Title: RE: 1922 / 21 Threepence Over-date Question
Post by: Goldseeker on December 16, 2016, 08:27:32 PM
That's my little secret.........!