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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Errors and Varieties => Topic started by: Noelos237 on September 18, 2016, 10:23:53 AM

Title: 1960 Half-penny slight rotation/upset
Post by: Noelos237 on September 18, 2016, 10:23:53 AM
I have noticed a minor upset on all 4 of my 1960 Half-pennies. Can anyone confirm this? Is there a reference list of all known pre-decimal upsets among other errors?
Title: RE: 1960 Half-penny slight rotation/upset
Post by: Mister T on September 18, 2016, 01:32:14 PM
I don't have any at hand but a lot predecimals have minor upsets I think. Possibly orientation was done by eye in the early days?
Title: RE: 1960 Half-penny slight rotation/upset
Post by: gnome on September 18, 2016, 02:18:22 PM
How minor would you say they would be.
Title: RE: 1960 Half-penny slight rotation/upset
Post by: Noelos237 on September 18, 2016, 03:54:36 PM
Quote from: 'gnome' pid='98226' dateline='1474174102'How minor would you say they would be.

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Title: RE: 1960 Half-penny slight rotation/upset
Post by: gnome on September 18, 2016, 04:27:15 PM
Ok thanks, :)
Title: RE: 1960 Half-penny slight rotation/upset
Post by: r9453 on September 18, 2016, 08:28:54 PM
Doesn't look like much, how many degrees is that?
Title: RE: 1960 Half-penny slight rotation/upset
Post by: keldaw on September 18, 2016, 09:29:24 PM
TO ME , IT LOOKS LIKE NO DEGREES AT ALL .
Title: RE: 1960 Half-penny slight rotation/upset
Post by: trout on September 18, 2016, 10:11:20 PM
I would say that it is well within tolerance, It takes a fair bit of rotation to become interesting But Well spotted though :good:
Title: RE: 1960 Half-penny slight rotation/upset
Post by: Noelos237 on September 19, 2016, 09:18:28 AM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='98250' dateline='1474202480'I would say that it is well within tolerance, It takes a fair bit of rotation to become interesting But Well spotted though :good:

Noted.
Title: RE: 1960 Half-penny slight rotation/upset
Post by: enworb on September 19, 2016, 09:42:09 AM
This is very common on pre-decimals. Not much interest in slight rotations.
Title: RE: 1960 Half-penny slight rotation/upset
Post by: Goldseeker on September 19, 2016, 08:32:33 PM
When the RAM production floo r was opened to the public some years ago, several of the defunct Secret Squirel coin forum visited Canberra for a dinner and RAM inspection.

During this inspection, I was informed that the tolerance of the head/tails was within +-15 degrees.

It is possible that this applied to pre decimal coins as well.
Title: RE: 1960 Half-penny slight rotation/upset
Post by: robbiegal on September 19, 2016, 08:55:51 PM
I have heard tales of that coin forum


that +-15 degrees  tolerance sounds fairly right

we see a lot of coins sitting within those degrees of rotation

and many others outside of that - so this 1960 halfpenny could be the start of a full rotation set in years to come
Title: RE: 1960 Half-penny slight rotation/upset
Post by: Mister T on September 20, 2016, 06:42:13 PM
I'd heard 5% mentioned before, but yeah, it's got to big to be appreciable.