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Numismatic Discussion => Up and Coming Events => Topic started by: purplepennyhunter on August 27, 2016, 06:47:42 PM

Title: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: purplepennyhunter on August 27, 2016, 06:47:42 PM
I got a text from the in-laws about half an hour ago declaring that they saw their son on the news, what is going on? Some sort of money show?

I hopped on the recorder box (I taped it as I have to stop myself saying) and saw all the usual suspects at the Melb show today including our own Goldseeker! And Markn peering at a swan dollar close-up. So very exciting as I wasn't able to be there. Go the cool kids noodling the 5 cent pieces.

I didn't manage to find it on the internet yet but I think it might show up here soon:
Sat 27th
https://www.9now.com.au/nine-news/vic
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: ausjack on August 27, 2016, 07:51:01 PM
Yeah a link to the even would be cool. I've never seen any camera's at brissie or sydney, thank god.

That link says I have to sign up :(
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: kchan1111 on August 27, 2016, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='95769' dateline='1472289462'I didn't manage to find it on the internet yet but I think it might show up here soon:
Sat 27th
https://www.9now.com.au/nine-news/vic

For those who finds commercial television painful like me, story starts 19:23.
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: ausjack on August 27, 2016, 09:24:55 PM
Link still says to sign up, what a bloody joke :@
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: notcb on August 27, 2016, 10:24:29 PM
I might be wrong but I suspect ANDA will receive some bad feedback over the distribution of the FJ and HK Holden PNCs today.

The queue was enormous from the get-go at 10 a.m. and yet the two people on the sales table were allowing people to purchase 20 PNCs at a time (10 of each) early on.

With only 750 mintage and (supposedly) 375 to be distributed on each day, there will be many disappointed people.

We already see profiteering on Ebay with Buy It Now prices of $200 each!

Cheers

Peter  (notcb)
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: ausjack on August 27, 2016, 10:36:08 PM
It amazes me how quick things end up on feebay these days.
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: kchan1111 on August 27, 2016, 10:52:14 PM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='95783' dateline='1472298895'Link still says to sign up, what a bloody joke :@

I got lazy and used my Facebook login. Oh well, god knows what 9 knows about me now.
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: ausjack on August 27, 2016, 11:21:22 PM
I just refuse to sign up just because a site wants me to, yes I can be very pig headed but that's just me. I don't like being told what to do, ask me and there's a pretty high chance I'll do it :)

Quote from: 'kchan1111' pid='95801' dateline='1472304134'I got lazy and used my Facebook login. Oh well, god knows what 9 knows about me now.

Probably everything, and what they don't already know they can buy from the government agencies like census etc, and especially now everything is linked so they know how much you get paid, how much tax you pay and what you went to the doctor for the last time you went :dodgy:
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: Fulvio on August 27, 2016, 11:45:48 PM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='95802' dateline='1472305882'I just refuse to sign up just because a site wants me to, yes I can be very pig headed but that's just me. I don't like being told what to do, ask me and there's a pretty high chance I'll do it :)

Yeah, me too. Just got home from there a minute ago. Went the long way round, via an AGM in Laverton (and had some fun on the train home, courtesy of an imbecile, 7 PSO's and two coppers).

Anyway, did bugger all work today, unless you count talking to Goldy, spotting two other forum members (though Goldy didn't say who they were, and they never came near the table), and possibly signing up a lovely lady to MNS and maybe ACF if she takes my advice about an iPod.

I DID however spend a couple of hours at the end of the day earbashing the lovely young ladies from the Mint about everything numismatic. Can't recall the name of the girl who designed the olympic coins (and her name is obscured in the pic), but the other one was Adonis Cox. I think we both learned a bit from the conversation, and she seemed genuinely interested in the views of serious collectors. She might even join ACF, maybe.

Oh, BTW.. the kids found TWO 1972 5¢ coins on the table. Nice introduction to the hobby, eh?
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: markn on August 28, 2016, 08:23:02 AM
I didn't even notice the camera pointing at me!  It was a good show, very busy until lunch time.  Gold coin entry was a good idea and the show special PNC certainly got people lining up.  Perhaps they should try putting the show special in a booth at the back of the room next time so the line doesn't obstruct people trying to get in or block the tables of dealers up the front.
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: Nevol on August 28, 2016, 08:31:57 AM
I saw Goldy on the News, but missed seeing Mark.

The kids looked like they were enjoying themselves with the 5c coins. I wonder how many will become 'dedicated' collectors.

Pleased to hear there were a couple 72's amongst them.
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: trout on August 28, 2016, 08:38:59 AM
Quote from: 'notcb' pid='95791' dateline='1472302469'I might be wrong but I suspect ANDA will receive some bad feedback over the distribution of the FJ and HK Holden PNCs today.

The queue was enormous from the get-go at 10 a.m. and yet the two people on the sales table were allowing people to purchase 20 PNCs at a time (10 of each) early on.

With only 750 mintage and (supposedly) 375 to be distributed on each day, there will be many disappointed people.

We already see profiteering on Ebay with Buy It Now prices of $200 each!

Cheers

Peter  (notcb)

It is unfortunate But these show release coins are now being seen by the majority of buyers as a Get rich Quick opportunity and has nothing to do with collecting.
As with all get rich quick ideas the end is usually very rapid and very messy :angel:
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: ausjack on August 28, 2016, 12:09:31 PM
I don't know if this will work for others but I seen one report in the link below where GS says he can't afford it, come on GS we know you can :mocking: But I'll have to suss it out again as I didn't see Mark :)
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/08/27/20/50/currency-lovers-flock-to-one-of-australias-largest-money-expos

I wonder what Belinda calls "good nick" for a 72 5 cent so you can get $40 for it.
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: robbiegal on August 28, 2016, 12:32:50 PM
Quote from: 'notcb' pid='95791' dateline='1472302469'I might be wrong but I suspect ANDA will receive some bad feedback over the distribution of the FJ and HK Holden PNCs today.

The queue was enormous from the get-go at 10 a.m. and yet the two people on the sales table were allowing people to purchase 20 PNCs at a time (10 of each) early on.

With only 750 mintage and (supposedly) 375 to be distributed on each day, there will be many disappointed people.

We already see profiteering on Ebay with Buy It Now prices of $200 each!

Cheers

Peter  (notcb)
it was like that during the mint open day earlier this year
people were buying 20-30 or more - of those gold round open day 50c pieces in the morning
and then later in the day we were limited to a maximum of 10 per customer and as the line grew smaller it was then 5 per customer and I think by the time we got to the counter it was no more than 3 per customer then it dwindled down to about 2 per customer  

when i was at the RAM holden open day we were told one per customer and the bloke right beside me bought 10 - go figure???


Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='95814' dateline='1472338917'I saw Goldy on the News, but missed seeing Mark.

The kids looked like they were enjoying themselves with the 5c coins. I wonder how many will become 'dedicated' collectors.

Pleased to hear there were a couple 72's amongst them.

yep
please to see that the kids got the 1972 5 cent pieces
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: Goldseeker on August 28, 2016, 02:20:51 PM
My latest addition to my collection from the Melbourne ANDA Shaw:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/Dump_Closeup_Back_.jpg)(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/Dump_Closeup_Front.jpg)

All I need the coin that the above was punched out of but starting at around $160K to over $600K, a wee bit over my budget.
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: markn on August 28, 2016, 02:25:07 PM
Nice Goldy!
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: kchan1111 on August 28, 2016, 03:49:13 PM
Woow. Nice one.

How come you have a badge with "goldseeker" for the show?
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: Fulvio on August 28, 2016, 05:21:39 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='95828' dateline='1472353370'please to see that the kids got the 1972 5 cent pieces

A third one showed up on the floor. One of the guys saw what it was, threw it on the table, then announced that there was a 1972 to be found. And the crowd went wild! :)
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: kchan1111 on August 28, 2016, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='95859' dateline='1472370699'
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='95828' dateline='1472353370'please to see that the kids got the 1972 5 cent pieces

A third one showed up on the floor. One of the guys saw what it was, threw it on the table, then announced that there was a 1972 to be found. And the crowd went wild! :)

Is there an age limit to the 5c noodling table?
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: ausjack on August 28, 2016, 05:39:17 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='95845' dateline='1472359851'My latest addition to my collection from the Melbourne ANDA Shaw:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/Dump_Closeup_Back_.jpg)(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/Dump_Closeup_Front.jpg)

All I need the coin that the above was punched out of but starting at around $160K to over $600K, a wee bit over my budget.

Well done GS, maybe you should get it graded as it shows a bit of detail compared to some of the others :good:

You could always tell Mrs GS that the world cruise is put off for a wee bit so you can get the holy dollar :angel: but then again she missed out last year so she mightn't be too happy about that :winkextra:

But on a serious note mate and to all the other collectors as well, have you told your family about some of the stuff you have and how valuable it is and NOT to just give it away or sell cheap as it seems to be a problem when something happens to the collector and the family just think it's not worth much. I have told mum that the stuff in slabs etc are worth a little so don't give them away but a lot of the stuff I have in bags like rabbit ears and different errors etc can be sold cheap or put back into the pond as she probably wouldn't need the stress of getting rid of them and when my nieces and nephew are old enough I will be telling them but for now they just get told to "STAY AWAY" from uncle Jack's coins :blush2:

In the link I put up I see a holy dollar for $125,000 and they'd probably come down if you sweet talked them :)
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: Fulvio on August 28, 2016, 05:51:52 PM
Quote from: 'kchan1111' pid='95861' dateline='1472371509'Is there an age limit to the 5c noodling table?

There was, yeah. But as I was leaving about half an hour before stumps, I noticed it had been raised to about 70!

Maybe they figured a table of oldies was better than an empty table. :)
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: kchan1111 on August 28, 2016, 05:53:54 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='95867' dateline='1472372512'
Quote from: 'kchan1111' pid='95861' dateline='1472371509'Is there an age limit to the 5c noodling table?

There was, yeah. But as I was leaving about half an hour before stumps, I noticed it had been raised to about 70!

Maybe they figured a table of oldies was better than an empty table. :)

UNFAIR!
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: Fulvio on August 28, 2016, 05:55:31 PM
Quote from: 'kchan1111' pid='95869' dateline='1472372634'UNFAIR!

Meh. I think they really didn't want to have to count and bag up the remains of $300 worth of rolls. I know Belinda didn't for sure. :)
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: JeffH on August 28, 2016, 06:00:12 PM
QuoteYou could always tell Mrs GS that the world cruise is put off for a wee bit so you can get the holy dollar but then again she missed out last year so she mightn't be too happy about that.
You are obviously not a married man AJ!
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: ausjack on August 28, 2016, 06:07:39 PM
:laugh2: gee does it show Jeff :blush2:
:yahoo: freedom :)

And besides who could put up with me, being a little wild :angel:
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: Fulvio on August 28, 2016, 07:16:53 PM
Well, well... after telling everyone at the show that I've never found a 1972 5¢, I just opened a bunch of rolls I've had lying about.. and out pops a '72! :)
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: JeffH on August 28, 2016, 07:20:16 PM
That sounds like like it could be one of the corollaries to Murphy's Law.
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: Fulvio on August 28, 2016, 07:40:37 PM
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='95881' dateline='1472377816'That sounds like like it could be one of the corollaries to Murphy's Law.

Yes, I did nearly have a coronary, now that you mention it. ;)
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: ausjack on August 28, 2016, 07:57:25 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='95880' dateline='1472377613'Well, well... after telling everyone at the show that I've never found a 1972 5¢, I just opened a bunch of rolls I've had lying about.. and out pops a '72! :)

Imagine what you might find if you open some of the 1966 20 cent rolls you've had put away from when they were released :mocking: sorry I can't help it :angel:

I want a pic or it didn't happen :winkextra:
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: robbiegal on August 28, 2016, 08:12:31 PM
I saw Andrew Crellin in Canberra earlier this year and he was soooooo excited about the 5 cent promotion at the shows for the kiddies

he was almost jumping out of his jeans with the sheer delight of it all
it was great to see someone so genuinely happy with a collecting activity

it's like that when the bus loads of kids turn up at the Mint here  too
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: ausjack on August 28, 2016, 09:08:34 PM
Not only does it help get the kids interested it also allows mum and dad have have a wander around without the little darlings going "I'm bored, can we go home". It's great that he's had the initiative to do something like this, well done Andrew :good:
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: trout on August 28, 2016, 09:33:43 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='95867' dateline='1472372512'
Quote from: 'kchan1111' pid='95861' dateline='1472371509'Is there an age limit to the 5c noodling table?

There was, yeah. But as I was leaving about half an hour before stumps, I noticed it had been raised to about 70!

Maybe they figured a table of oldies was better than an empty table. :)

I recon the oldies were just "Skiting" that they could still actually see the date on the little blighters :):laugh2:
The 5c noodling table is a great new incentive and I imagine that the kids that gave it a go would be keen to do it again and want to attend the show next year it comes around :good:
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: Goldseeker on August 29, 2016, 08:39:13 PM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='95847' dateline='1472360107'Nice Goldy!

Thanks for your comment markn.

Judging by that remark I might have done well.   I have also requested a letter of authenticity from the seller that includes a copy of the sales card within the letter minus the price.  

At least I hope so.

Now for the coin that surrounded it.
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: robbiegal on August 29, 2016, 08:46:58 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='95845' dateline='1472359851'My latest addition to my collection from the Melbourne ANDA Shaw:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/Dump_Closeup_Back_.jpg)(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/Dump_Closeup_Front.jpg)

All I need the coin that the above was punched out of but starting at around $160K to over $600K, a wee bit over my budget.

i am itching to know Goldie
if the price was based on last years maccas or the year before?
there seems to be HUGE differences between the two catalouges!!
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: Goldseeker on August 29, 2016, 08:48:35 PM
"But on a serious note mate and to all the other collectors as well, have you told your family about some of the stuff you have and how valuable it is and NOT to just give it away or sell cheap as it seems to be a problem when something happens to the collector and the family just think it's not worth much. I have told mum that the stuff in slabs etc are worth a little so don't give them away but a lot of the stuff I have in bags like rabbit ears and different errors etc can be sold cheap or put back into the pond as she probably wouldn't need the stress of getting rid of them and when my nieces and nephew are old enough I will be telling them but for now they just get told to "STAY AWAY" from uncle Jack's coins :blush2:"



You are right on the button with that bit of advice.   I have tried to ell my kids I need to talk to them about what I have but the daughter gets stroppy at me at the thought of mum and I falling off the perch.

I will keep trying and your statement above has not fallen on deaf ears.
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: robbiegal on August 29, 2016, 08:55:09 PM
do you remember that Aussie pre-decimal errors and everything collector who died?
was his name Peter Wall - he died without direct inheritors for his estate

the big thing that came out of the distribution and sale of his estate/collection was that he did not have the collection cataloged and therefore, few knew just what he had and what it was worth, particularly the auction house that sold off his collection

a lot of people made a lot of money from buying at the auctions that were held to distribute his estate  

CAB had an editorial about it
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: Fulvio on August 29, 2016, 10:35:05 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='96056' dateline='1472469515'I have tried to ell my kids I need to talk to them about what I have but the daughter gets stroppy at me at the thought of mum and I falling off the perch.

I would say the easy fix is just leave it all to me, but I'll fall off the perch long before you, I'm afraid. :(
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: robbiegal on August 29, 2016, 10:38:40 PM
aww
don't think so
you do a lot of leg work miles in your obsession err hobby
i'm  sure it keeps you fit and healthy Fulvio

you'll be chatting up the RAM ladies for many years to come  .. promise xx
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: Fulvio on August 29, 2016, 10:43:28 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='96067' dateline='1472476120'obsession

Isn't it an obsession for us all? :angel:
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: robbiegal on August 29, 2016, 10:51:33 PM
damn well is for me
it's doing my head in lately,  I can tell ya!!
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: Goldseeker on August 30, 2016, 12:20:34 PM
My photos of the Melbourne ANDA Show 2016:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/Melb_ANDA_1.JPG)(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/5c_Scramble.JPG)(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/5c_Scramble_no_2.JPG)(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/Peter_Strict_ANDA_NO_2.JPG)(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/RAM_ANDA.JPG)
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: ausjack on August 30, 2016, 03:23:28 PM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='95887' dateline='1472380045'
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='95880' dateline='1472377613'Well, well... after telling everyone at the show that I've never found a 1972 5¢, I just opened a bunch of rolls I've had lying about.. and out pops a '72! :)

Imagine what you might find if you open some of the 1966 20 cent rolls you've had put away from when they were released :mocking: sorry I can't help it :angel:

I want a pic or it didn't happen :winkextra:

:dodgy: I'm still waiting for my pic :mocking: :angel:
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: kchan1111 on August 30, 2016, 07:12:38 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='96132' dateline='1472525434'My photos of the Melbourne ANDA Show 2016:

That's a nice venue. A lot better than Sydney Town Hall.
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: Goldseeker on August 30, 2016, 07:23:58 PM
Yes it certainly is but I think Caulfield Race track is even better.  

Much more space and plenty of parking immediately opposite the venue.   %0 metre walk instead of trying to find a parking spot on the open roads.
Title: RE: Melbourne ANDA Money Expo
Post by: Fulvio on August 30, 2016, 08:29:26 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='96176' dateline='1472550838'Yes it certainly is but I think Caulfield Race track is even better.

Meh. Come to our MNS coin show in Mitcham in October. Its next to the station, in a dead end street with a massive carpark, and its a lovely venue as well. About half the size of the ANDA expo I reckon. AND its for a good cause!

Oh, and bring the clockface.. it really needs to be on show. :)