eBay Link (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AUSTRALIA-1934-35-MELBOURNE-CENTENARY-FLORIN-WITH-PROOF-TYPE-II-DIE-MARKERS-/302011925304)
WARNING. The pictures of the die markers for the above are lifted directly from one of our auctions from a few months ago and are not of the coin in the auction. The sellers coin may or may not have proof type 2 die markers but you can't tell from his pictures. The seller will not remove the images in question despite being asked. Buyer beware.
:swoon: gee does it ever end :(
That seller pops up in a lot of searches I do for PCGS slabs on EBay. I was not particularly inclined towards them but I'm less so now.
Its a proof strike but its scratched to hell. Look at the vie polish line from the horses butt to tail. That's a marker, so is the rim and I think the wreath is as well but picture is a bit low res
Mark, did you report the item under the copyright violation reasons?
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='94097' dateline='1470819522'Mark, did you report the item under the copyright violation reasons?
Yes.
I'm glad you did ..... I will try and work out what options I can report it under also. (Pretty poor effort on their behalf not removing your pics when requested!!!!).
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='94100' dateline='1470820091'I'm glad you did ..... I will try and work out what options I can report it under also. (Pretty poor effort on their behalf not removing your pics when requested!!!!).
Report it under "Listing Practices" , I just did.
Done!
Quote from: 'serial' pid='94091' dateline='1470818556'Its a proof strike but its scratched to hell.
I don't agree that it has any of the markers.
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='94113' dateline='1470821212'Quote from: 'serial' pid='94091' dateline='1470818556'Its a proof strike but its scratched to hell.
I don't agree that it has any of the markers.
Well your wrong, I can clearly see the die polish line between the horses butt and tail, then the fact it has a wire rim at 9oclock on the horsey side and what appears to be a fully formed but flattened wreath. It is a worn and trashed example but I would gamble its a proof strike.
I didn't see the 3rd and 4th picture so I didn't understand the problem before but now i saw them I agree. Its highly inappropriate to use them images as they don't reflect the coin being sold and are someone else images.
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='94113' dateline='1470821212'Quote from: 'serial' pid='94091' dateline='1470818556'Its a proof strike but its scratched to hell.
I don't agree that it has any of the markers.
Isn't the rim (fat reverse, beveled obverse) a marker for the proofs?
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='94138' dateline='1470838478'Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='94113' dateline='1470821212'Quote from: 'serial' pid='94091' dateline='1470818556'Its a proof strike but its scratched to hell.
I don't agree that it has any of the markers.
Isn't the rim (fat reverse, beveled obverse) a marker for the proofs?
yes
the PP inserted photos make that ad appear as it the die markers are off that coin
this is a very deceptive selling strategy as there is no notation of the source of the extra obviously more professional images
The offending photos have been removed
Great!
Hi all, just wanting to clear my name.
Thanks to Steve for making me aware about this post.
To start with, serial is correct, my coin is a proof strike but has had a clean.
Secondly, Mark, you never made it aware who you were or your authority on eBay so I found it very rude for you to post on here and bring down my name after not even giving me time to explain the situation. Getting a message from 'touch_it_you_die' and then to not mention who you are does not give anyone clarity of this. I contacted Kathryn to ask if she knew you and had no reply.
I mistakenly used the photos to show the 'proof type II die markers' thinking that they were the photos also used on the following reference 'http://www.drakesterling.com/CustomPageFiles-2/Proof_Centenary_Florin.pdf'. At no point did I mean to 'steal' images, only to represent the markers to potential buyers.
I hope people can understand that by posting things like this it can impact someone's reputation, before the issue is even understood completely.
Quote from: 'dazza4coins' pid='94197' dateline='1470892978'Hi all, just wanting to clear my name.
Thanks to Steve for making me aware about this post.
To start with, serial is correct, my coin is a proof strike but has had a clean.
Secondly, Mark, you never made it aware who you were or your authority on eBay so I found it very rude for you to post on here and bring down my name after not even giving me time to explain the situation. Getting a message from 'touch_it_you_die' and then to not mention who you are does not give anyone clarity of this. I contacted Kathryn to ask if she knew you and had no reply.
I mistakenly used the photos to show the 'proof type II die markers' thinking that they were the photos also used on the following reference 'http://www.drakesterling.com/CustomPageFiles-2/Proof_Centenary_Florin.pdf'. At no point did I mean to 'steal' images, only to represent the markers to potential buyers.
I hope people can understand that by posting things like this it can impact someone's reputation, before the issue is even understood completely.
My messages to this poster via eBay:
QuoteDarren you have used the images from another coin to sell this coin which is being deliberately deceptive. I know this because I TOOK THE PICTURES. Remove the pictures from the listing or I will report it to eBay.
Your response:
QuoteThese photos are of my coin. The die marker images I got from the Purple Penny, so if they are yours, then clearly other people used them too. It is not deceptive, it's informative so people know the markers.
My response:
QuoteDarren, I am part owner of the Purple Penny and you are not allowed to use our images without permission. Please remove them from your listing.
Your response to that was exactly nothing. I posted your coin up here on the hunch that it would get back to you because I know you speak to other members of this forum. Clearly it did get back to you and you removed the images.
The only one that has impacted on your reputation here is you. It is NEVER OK to use other peoples images without their express permission. At no point did you ask either myself or PPH for permission and nowhere in your listing did it suggest that all the images were not of the coin you're trying to sell.
I am going to lock this thread because it has served it's purpose.