From what I am reading at present, it appears there are supposed to be 2 Types of S on the 1944S Threepence.
If this is a known fact, it's news to me and I'm hoping someone may be able to supply images of the 2 types so I can check my spares for the 2 varieties.
Even a detailed description of what to look for would be good. :beg:
My sources are: Numista; Krause 1901-2000 42nd edition.
In the meantime I'll get my 23 x 1944S coins out and see if I can spot anything.
Wow! It turns out I did know something about these little blighters. I have found 42 of them, some separated from the others & noted with 'blobby' S, but even with a 10 x loupe, I can't see what it's all about, so I'll check them all with the USB. :kez_11:
It's news to me also Nancy, It will be interesting to see what you find out :good:
These little suckers are too small for my eyes and my cudoscope doesn't want to work on my new laptop :dash1:
The photos below are from my pile of spare/surplus 1944S threepences.
The difference that I can see is the thickness of the lettering "S".
Outside of that, I can't see any difference over my 40 odd spares.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/1944S_Type_1.jpg)(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/1944S_Type_2.jpg)
Nancy, if I recall the s has either no serifs or has serifs on the letter.
i was wondering that
i looked up my dean book but the images are so ratty that it was hard to figure out from his book
he has the sans serif at 6 times the values of the other serif (but it is not described or named) for the year just 's' and then sans serif 's'
Checked my pool, I have 15 with serifs (top loop of 's' is very thin) whist the other 3 seem to have a thicker loops and a rounder 'bum' on the 's'. Sadly all three of these are damaged :dodgy:
Thanks all!
Now, What I've come up with is main differences between the Serifs in the top row compared to the Blobs in the second row, and also the distance of the S from the ribbon above.
Top row they are quite close to the Ribbon, bottom row, they are more distant from the ribbon. Shape of the S's are also markedly different.
With their being 32 M of them all up, who knows how many dies were used.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/3d_1944S_Trio_1___2_Compare_v2.jpg)
I have Fred Lever's book, he refers to three varieties:
All serif on S
Date variety (thicker/fat 4s)
Letter variety (droop foot 4, S narrow)
Any ideas what the Droop foot 4 looks like?
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='93957' dateline='1470722637'Any ideas what the Droop foot 4 looks like?
It's pretty much as it sounds, the left side of the foot of second 4 points down to the left.
EDIT: (http://i.imgur.com/04VVqKx.jpg)
I have one I noted as 'wide down stroke on first figure 4' (Renniks) with a image code C36A. :idea:
Don't think I have one of those so I can get on with getting the little sods organized. :whistle2:
I have decided to try to keep all my 3d Variety posts & images in one thread, so I have renamed the thread to Threepence Varieties (prev 1944S Threepence)
1942d 3d's also have the MM in different positions. I am calling the 3 positions, near, far and medium.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/3d_1942_D__Multi_x_6.jpg)
These are 1942S Threepences, with the same differences as previous post.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/3d_1942S__Multi_x_6.jpg)
There are a few threepences that have a nice doubling on the obverses, as well, that aren't listed.
Was having a little change around in the threepences and came across a few I had forgotten about. Some interesting little pieces. There is a 1948 3d with a diecrack from the rim to near top of the 4. There is mention of a 1947, but couldn't find the 1948 mentioned. I also have a 1948 , filled bottom 8, with diecracks from the rim to A,U,A,A, in Australia and rim to P in pence. 1948 3d obverse with diecrack from rim to both dots between G:B and rim to V. 1947 3d rev with a diecrack rim to 7 and 1s E, . 1944 S 3d with a diecrack and large dot/blob on the A. The last one is a 1943 M 3d obverse, with a large dot/blob on the bottom of the second G in George. I only mentioned these as I didn't find them in the book. I could have just missed them, anyway also found another 1949 with a doubled obverse. :)
For the 44S there is also the variety with a decent cud on the foot of the first 4. Also a 44S with DDO. Like most 44S they are both serif S and not that hard to find even in ChUnc.
A couple of quick snaps.
This is a 1948 3d double diecrack in between the legs of the V and the dots between G:B, there is also a couple of diecracks on the reverse, P and last E.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10012/DSCF4596_28580x58729.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10012/DSCF4596.JPG)
1944 S with a pretty big diecrack
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10012/DSCF4586.JPG)
1948 3d diecrack to the 4
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10012/DSCF4582.JPG)
Quote from: 'gnome' pid='99804' dateline='1476161473'1944 S with a pretty big diecrack
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10012/DSCF4586.JPG)
That's one serious die crack G! :good:
Yeah it's a pearler alright. Uni :) Got a few more interesting ones to sort out, need a better piccie setup, though.
Very nice examples! :yahoo:
Thanks, Robster. Still quite a few to check over again. :angel:
Nice crack Gnome. I especially like the 44s to the E
Just found this little beauty. Appologies on the quality of the pic.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10012/DSCF4859.JPG)
Very nice.
Gee G another pic would be nice :winkextra:
Hang on mate :)
Updated the pic.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10012/DSCF4859.JPG)
Newish computer and not handling my camera pics very well.
Take ya time G, I know what it's like trying to operate new machinery ;)
Yeah nearly over it. Starting to give me the :) Will give it another go in the daylight.
Very nice G! :good: (To quote Mr Renniks .....die crack joins top of shield to star)
That's the one , Uni :)
Thoughts on this one would be appreciated as well, thanks.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10012/DSCF4861.JPG)
That's a lot clearer photo G, you must have sorted something out. :good:
Dot between base of T in THREE & Roo's back?
(Xmas pudding coin??)
Daylight hours and went back to basis with the lights etc as well as back on the laptop for the moment. :)
Had another look, seems to be a lot of chrissy pudding still on it, maybe. :)
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2051541.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X322454559041.TRS0&_nkw=322454559041&_sacat=0
Yeah; right :dodgy:
That's a shocker Auto, you'd think they'd at least try and get the date somewhat similar to a real one!
Unbelievable uni, but it is nice and shiny. :derisive:
Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='106799' dateline='1489720886'Unbelievable uni, but it is nice and shiny. :derisive:
And fully guaranteed:@.