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Title: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: robbiegal on July 02, 2016, 04:00:45 PM
Hi everyone
I went and voted today
went along to the school where the kids used to go to

waited in a very very long line for over 3/4 of an hour
but did manage to entertain myself with a sausage sandwich, a chocolate weetbix slice and a catch up chat with a woman who I used to work with  (talked about me doing some casual work where she works too) so I might add a job option to the list as well ha ha
also grabbed a raffle ticket as well

grand day out with half the suburb

anyways, got the paperwork
tried to figure out the best way to do it

I reckon they should have how to vote tele lessons while you wait

will turn the tellie on and have an election night Saturday night
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: JeffH on July 02, 2016, 04:07:49 PM
They need to make the polling booths twice as wide so you don't have to keep shuffling the senate paper backwards and forwards. Might not be as bad in other states if they don't have so many different groups.
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: nealeffendi on July 02, 2016, 04:22:12 PM
I voted 15 days ago. They had a pre poll voting centre in Parramatta and as I walked past there were all these people handling out How To Vote papers. Had the time to spare so got it over with.
The only problem with voting is that it gives the buggers in Canberra a "mandate" to spend our tax dollars how they want.:@
Should be a box marked "none of the above":winkextra:
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: gnome on July 02, 2016, 04:22:54 PM
Long que, longer paperwork :)
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: robbiegal on July 02, 2016, 04:24:01 PM
pre polling booth hey ?

next time i will find one!!
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: JeffH on July 02, 2016, 04:45:52 PM
Or postal. Pick up the papers, vote then post them in prior.
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: Triggersmob on July 02, 2016, 04:53:10 PM
Would be a whole lot easier if you could just log on to MyGov.au and vote there. :)
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: Fulvio on July 02, 2016, 05:03:36 PM
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='91814' dateline='1467442332'Should be a box marked "none of the above":winkextra:

(http://www.kappit.com/img/pics/201603_0618_bcgic.jpg)

Maybe a bit late, but keep this for next time:

http://gergs.net/2016/05/tactical-senate-voting/
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: ausjack on July 02, 2016, 05:19:44 PM
Yes I pre poled last week as I hate the line up and agree being in NSW the paper was so confusing it wasn't funny and I'm with you Neal and there should be a box "none of the above" and also agree that it doesn't give a "mandate" as I know people that vote one way but don't like some of the other policies so if they put some things to a vote on an individual merit I don't think they get them passed so to say they have the mandate of the people is a bit presumptuous.
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: Pedro on July 02, 2016, 06:26:43 PM
Best things about voting - the very pleasant walk in the sunshine and the sausage on a roll. Going through the voting rigmarole - pfft!

Pedro
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: r9453 on July 02, 2016, 10:03:34 PM
I just got home from working for the AEC at my local polling booth.
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: robbiegal on July 02, 2016, 11:12:55 PM
i wanna do that!!
how do i get a job on election day?
it looks like fun
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: r9453 on July 03, 2016, 07:18:04 AM
It was kind of fun, the day began at 6.30 and I got home at 10pm. The pay is good when you are retired like me but not so much if you work it out on an hourly rate. Being part of the democratic process is fine with me. I did a bit of everything, marking off names in the electoral roll and issue the ballot papers, greeting people in the queue, helping old people get a seat so they could sit down and vote with some dignity.

Making jokes about the "table cloth" while helping to stuff them into the ballot box. At 6pm the doors are shut and the ballots are emptied onto a table, flattened out put into piles and counted. The green papers get a preference distribution to work out the 2 party preferred count and the white ones get a basic count, 95% voted above the line. Overall I think turnout was low because up to 30% pre-poll voters which don't get counted until Tuesday, I believe.

To get a job you just go to the AEC website and register your interest. this was the fourth election I worked on.
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: robbiegal on July 03, 2016, 11:16:14 AM
cheers
thank-you
great

what a huge day though!!
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: r9453 on July 03, 2016, 11:25:43 AM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='91867' dateline='1467510374'what a huge day though!!

Yes, as if I didn't already get enough after 15 hours being there, I watched on TV until midnight. :fie:
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: trout on July 03, 2016, 04:27:35 PM
Senator Pauline Hanson, Now this will be interesting :)
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: JeffH on July 03, 2016, 05:03:56 PM
And Derryn Hinch. Now there's a couple for you. [At least I think D H will apply some brainpower to issues; even if I don't agree with some of his opinions.]
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: r9453 on July 03, 2016, 06:07:15 PM
Yep, the previous senate was colourful enough but now the circus has really come to town.
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: trout on July 03, 2016, 06:48:27 PM
Quote from: 'r9453' pid='91881' dateline='1467535035'Yep, the previous senate was colourful enough but now the circus has really come to town.

In Canberra the Circus has always been in town, At least now with 2 senators that are not part of the "Establishment" maybe they have a good chance of making the buggers accountable :good:
Honest politicians are as rare as hens teeth , Hanson and Hinch fit that bill nicely.
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: JeffH on July 03, 2016, 06:59:21 PM
trout, that reminds me of the old joke;
Q. How can you tell if a politician is lying?
A. His lips are moving!
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: trout on July 03, 2016, 07:01:01 PM
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='91885' dateline='1467538161'trout, that reminds me of the old joke;
Q. How can you tell if a politician is lying?
A. His lips are moving!

:laugh2:
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: oh my florin on July 03, 2016, 08:35:07 PM
Maybe things may work out better but with Democracy the future is often not of concern and today is what gets people elected. Also the fact that you get some really useless people/parties elected such as the Marijuana Party, Motoring Entusiasts Party, Sex party etc which is just ridiculous and makes me question the party elected on the day is elected on merit of Policies (unlikely) or the idiocy of portions of the population (my favourite criticism)
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: Fulvio on July 03, 2016, 09:51:53 PM
Quote from: 'oh my florin' pid='91890' dateline='1467543907'useless people/parties elected such as the Marijuana Party, Motoring Entusiasts Party, Sex party etc which is just ridiculous

WHOA! I resemble dem remarks, Podnah!

Are you saying that anyone with a special interest is by definition useless and ridiculous? What does that make us then?

Well-rounded people have interests. And given that our society marginalises and victimises minorities, those interests may well be repressed. Look at the way the mint makes our own niche much more difficult than it needs to be, for example.

Those three particular fields share a few common traits. They are much more popular than average. They have been overlooked, discriminated against and/or demonised by our political leadership and society at large. And they contain individuals and/or organisations with the motivation and will to change the status quo.

None of which speaks to the quality of the individuals concerned. Just because someone believes in changing laws which adversely affect some part of our society, does not mean they are incapable of making decisions in the wider sphere. If someone is a problem-solver, then that's what they naturally do. Solve problems. I would rather have someone who could look at an issue and resolve it, even if he or she was a muscle-car-driving, pot-smoking sex fiend, over a stuffed shirt with a ton of vested interests pulling his strings. Because the 'solution' the puppet will deliver will not be in MY best interests, but those of his masters.

That's why we always need a few of the fringe-dwellers running naked through the halls of power... keeps the bastards honest! ;)
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: Pedro on July 03, 2016, 10:17:40 PM
As much as we whinge about our pollies (with justification), imagine if you were a US resident facing the possibility of another Clinton or Trump! :shock:

Pedro
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: autocoupler on July 03, 2016, 11:11:32 PM
We have a great system and our style of democracy is what many nutters in the world hate, we actually do have a choice, and as yet don't get shot up or loose our heads because we simply have a different point of view. Hell, we have the ability to install the most incompetent bunch at times but we endure for three or four years, then have another go. In other parts of the world the wrong party getting elected often means civil war, dictatorships and the sort of thing we see going on in the middle east right now. Nothing wrong with bagging the parties or individuals, but we must never take our right to make a mark for granted, it's infuriating to think a bloke like Hinch can brag about not voting in 70 years but then has the gall to ask the public for their vote, and in the same breath says he will campaign to make voting non compulsory.
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: trout on July 04, 2016, 01:14:55 AM
Quote from: 'Pedro' pid='91906' dateline='1467550060'As much as we whinge about our pollies (with justification), imagine if you were a US resident facing the possibility of another Clinton or Trump! :shock:

Pedro

230 Million people in the US and THAT is all they can come up with :dash1:
the very thought of Donald Trump becoming the next President of the USA scares the crap out of me.
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: robbiegal on July 04, 2016, 11:56:41 AM
well guys and gals
we have a long wait
as it's looking to be hung parliament

ho hum .......

at least we all good and voted :)
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: Fulvio on July 04, 2016, 09:56:54 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='91913' dateline='1467560695'230 Million people in the US and THAT is all they can come up with :dash1:

The trouble is, the field ISN'T 322,762,018 (hasn't been 230 mil for yonks). Its maybe a few thousand, max. And of those only a few dozen actually have even half a chance. The system's rigged, and you need to be exceptionally well-connected to even get a look-in at a start, let alone any kind of support whatsoever. Of course, telling kids that anybody could be President is just part of the con to keep the natives from getting restless. :dodgy:

Anyway, back to Canberra.. I'm thinking that a hung parliament could very well be the ideal outcome. No wild policies on either side, some of the previous egregious mistakes fixed, and business as usual for a few years while we mull over how we let this happen. Expect a landslide next time, in whichever direction the wind blows. :angel:
Title: RE: AUSTRALIA VOTES
Post by: ausjack on July 04, 2016, 11:02:51 PM
From what they've been saying we may have another election sooner than we thought..I suppose they love to spend our money so why the hell not :dash1: