I might well post a copy of this Booklet while i have it out,interesting Info. on Tokens but the Coin Cleaning is a bit of a worry,hangover from the 1940/50's.
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fantastic Basil
our pre-decimals were worth more in 1964 than what they are now!
two bob for an unc 1964 penny in 1964
back then 2 bob went a heck of a longer way
12 quid for a long 5 different 3 penny !
10 quid for missing I on the 1942
10 quid for a 1920; 1919 double dot
1930 200 quid!!
i love seeing these books - thank-you so much
Agreed, thanks for sharing!
Thank you very much for your effort.
And look at the grades Fine, very fine, Unc. No abouts about it :)
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='91750' dateline='1467335768'fantastic Basil
10 quid for a 1920; 1919 double dot
1930 200 quid!!
i love seeing these books - thank-you so much
Thanks,i have more including D H Skinner's 1966 Renniks book,excellent Info,if the Copyright has expired i might try and sneak it on here when i get some time.
The 1920 & 1919 DD's were a sought after Coin in the 1960's,particularly the 1919,believe it or not the 1946 and to a lesser extent the 1925 were relatively easier to source and cheaper.That all changed(IIRC) in the late 1960,early 1970's when there was a feeding frenzy on collecting pre-Dec and prices soared on the lower mint/key date Coins.
Quote from: 'gnome' pid='91754' dateline='1467336846'Fine, very fine, Unc. No abouts about it :)
No EFs either, would Fine (and VF) mean the same as it does today?
That Guide just uses a cut down version of all the Grades,there was Good,VG etc used by Dealers.Some City Dealers that specialised in Foreign Coins used the USA system,Basal State(HeHe),Fair,About Good,Very Good etc.
I have scanned a couple of pages from Skinner's Book,this was more a Reference than the Coin Guide.
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With reference to who designed the reverses of the halfpenny and penny, not known, interesting :)
I have a later edition circa 1982:
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Many thanks...great books, all of them.
Pity you could not create a pdf book so we can download.
Thanks for all of you time in scanning these.
:i_agree: Great stuff Basil. Amazing to look at the growth in book values from then to sale results now. According to the Australian bureau of Statistics the average wage has increased by a multiple of 21 since 1964. Back then 1919 D.D. and 1920 D.D. pennies in UNC were $20, so based on the average wage increase translates to $420 in 2016 compared to latest auction results of $8,100 in aUNC and $24,000 in CHU respectively. A 1930 would be $8,400 today in UNC mind you, who knows what the current result would be for one in UNC if actually out there, $300,000 +? A 1948Y. works out to be a cool $42 today compared to maybe $1000 + currently . Heh not a bad earn considering current values. The poor old 1953 long 5 diff. 3 hasn't done quite so well though, going from $24 to $252 today, which is closer to actual at $1050 UNC Nobles 2012 and $600 aUNC IAG 2015.
Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='92153' dateline='1467878595':i_agree: Great stuff Basil. Amazing to look at the growth in book values from then to sale results now. According to the Australian bureau of Statistics the average wage has increased by a multiple of 21 since 1964. Back then 1919 D.D. and 1920 D.D. pennies in UNC were $20, so based on the average wage increase translates to $420 in 2016 compared to latest auction results of $8,100 in aUNC and $24,000 in CHU respectively. A 1930 would be $8,400 today in UNC mind you, who knows what the current result would be for one in UNC if actually out there, $300,000 +? A 1948Y. works out to be a cool $42 today compared to maybe $1000 + currently . Heh not a bad earn considering current values. The poor old 1953 long 5 diff. 3 hasn't done quite so well though, going from $24 to $252 today, which is closer to actual at $1050 UNC Nobles 2012 and $600 aUNC IAG 2015.
Most of those figures were made up on the fly. There has never been a 1930 penny or a 1919 DD sold in Unc as far as I can tell. Just like catalogues today they generally didn't reflect reality. I'm sure if a true problem free Unc 1930 penny ever was sold the price would be over the million mark as it would be up with the proof 1930 pennies in desirability.
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='92154' dateline='1467880910'Most of those figures were made up on the fly. There has never been a 1930 penny or a 1919 DD sold in Unc as far as I can tell. Just like catalogues today they generally didn't reflect reality. I'm sure if a true problem free Unc 1930 penny ever was sold the price would be over the million mark as it would be up with the proof 1930 pennies in desirability.
True, I was just highlighting the growth for some items. To my knowledge there have been two 1919 Double Dots sold in AU grade in recent times ie IAG auctions 09/2010 for 12,500 and again IAG auctions 1/2015 for 8,100.
A couple of years ago I do remember a 1930 penny graded gEF/aUNC that was passed in on an estimate of $400,000. Can't quite remember if it was Downies or IAG, but I was able to have a good at the coin at the Brisbane Coin Show. It was miles better than a couple of 30's graded AU50 - 53 that have surfaced recently.
Quote from: 'humpybong' pid='91768' dateline='1467353832'Many thanks...great books, all of them.
Pity you could not create a pdf book so we can download.
Thanks for all of you time in scanning these.
Thanks Barry,don't have the gear to do PDF,also have to be careful with copyright,a page here and there won't hurt but a whole Book could be asking for trouble.Not sure if its 50 years or 70 in Oz. now,also Pics. are treated differently as well from what i can find on Google.
I was at School in the 1960's but remember some things like it was yesterday,the 1914 & 1946 Penny had similar values at the time but the 1946 has edged well ahead now of course.Another eg of that era,The 1920 Double Dot and the 1921 English were regarded as rare Coins but Dealers didn't seem to have any trouble sourcing them,Ebay has proven they both had a substantial mintage.
I don't think PDF is all that tricky. I quickly copied the Scans into MS Word and exported it as PDF. To do a better job I might need to cut the double pages in half and make them all the same size. If there is any interest I'm happy to give it a try.
Quote from: 'r9453' pid='92176' dateline='1467917131'I don't think PDF is all that tricky. I quickly copied the Scans into MS Word and exported it as PDF. To do a better job I might need to cut the double pages in half and make them all the same size. If there is any interest I'm happy to give it a try.
Yeah,will have a go one of these days,i've just never had the need to use it.I'll practice on the Heyde Book,i need to redo those scans again so their readable.