I have pretty much neglected my decimal albums since I got the shits with the 25mm dollar coin floodgating .
I have however kept up with the other denominations and all I need to do now is to put them in flips and add them to my various decimal albums.
I have been far too concerned with my set registries and getting coins slabbed and have neglected my albums Big Time.
Time for me to sort out my albums and assess what is needed for these, After all the large part of my collections do reside in albums and not in slabs.
I have just received a few hundred 2x2's that I ordered , So time to get busy and catch up on 2 years of coins.
This will be Fun :yahoo:
agree
I have started (over the last few weeks) pulling my coin albums off the shelf and starting to re-connect with the stuff that I have right here right now
mine need sorting and then the coins that I have bought during the last year need cataloguing and filing
great to organise the collection or else it just becomes piles/bags of stuff and not appreciated
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='90457' dateline='1465724992'great to organise the collection or else it just becomes piles/bags of stuff and not appreciated
You been peeking in my vault again? :dodgy:
Organisation is a huge issue for any collector I reckon. More so for anyone who isn't suffering from OCD in the first place. ;)
"I'm not a slob! I just have a distributed filing system that's all." :angel:
Quote from: 'trout' pid='90455' dateline='1465724677'a few hundred 2x2's that I ordered
Non-adhesive ones that you're going to iron shut so they'll never pop open, right? ;)
Quote"I'm not a slob! I just have a distributed filing system that's all." Angel
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I have NEVER had a problem with OCD either :)
problem is if you don't have some sort of a system then how do you find things?
it also depends on what you collect
but if you say, like me, collect varieties then you have to know which album the coin is in
i'm not OCD but I am fairly, organised or I wouldn't bother
it would be too messy
i'd never be jolly well ironing any 2x2's around my coins
hate ironing anyways
one mistake and valuable coin would be ruined
plus it sounds downright stupid to me
This is what winter is for, right.
I had a practice run ironing a couple of 2x2s shut and it was no fun. I tried to get my grand daughter interested, she doesn't mind the coins but thought the ironing was even more boring than I did. It was very fiddly trying to keep the pointy end of the iron away from the coin. The thought of doing hundreds simply boggles. I do wonder about having a mixture of staples, adhesives and saflips, its very untidy.
I have a reasonably large desk with two other tables in the room but I can never seem to find enough space to lay everything out. Now I also have a big box full of little blue boxes that don't quite fit with the albums.
I suspect trout is not quite as organised as he could be otherwise he would not have lost an entire wedding set, maybe its only misplaced.
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='90484' dateline='1465731582'one mistake and valuable coin would be ruined
plus it sounds downright stupid to me
Not like you're ironing a shirt, y'know.
All you need to do is melt the mylar all the way around. It doesn't need to be edge to edge, just as long as there's an unbroken seal. So there's no reason to get anywhere near the window, or the coin inside.
I wouldn't call it downright stupid and I was a bit too fastidious - trying to poke the point of the iron into/onto the cardboard. I should point out that the procedure worked as claimed and I was happy with the result. I just checked and after a week or so all is good.
You might want to write on the cardboard after. For my test I removed the staples from a couple of holders that already had writing on them. There was some smudging.
I haven't picked up an iron since I got out of the Army and I doubt that I ever will again.
The self adhesive 2x2's do work out to be the most expensive out of saflips and staple type 2x2's But they are by far the easiest to use and they are aesthetically far more appealing than either of the other two.
Each to their own but a 20 coin page filled with neat little 2x2's without any Nasty staples looks rather good to ME :)
QuoteI suspect trout is not quite as organised as he could be otherwise he would not have lost an entire wedding set, maybe its only misplaced.
When I get around to tidying up my office it is pretty much the same as having an Easter Egg hunt.
There is always all sorts of stuff to be "Rediscovered" :angel:
I wonder if one of those heat sealer thingys would put out enough heat to seal a 2x2.
Might be easier than using an iron.
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='90528' dateline='1465774875'I wonder if one of those heat sealer thingys would put out enough heat to seal a 2x2.
Might be easier than using an iron.
What a good idea, I think the heat sealer would work perfectly.
A lot less fiddly than an iron as well :good:
We are thinking along the same lines. I just looked up properties of "Mylar"® (Biaxially-oriented polyethylene terephthalate) and find melting point is given as 254ºC.
What is needed is a press with a heated, 2" square (hollow), narrow rimmed top and a locating bottom guide.
My questions would be;
•How much hotter than 254ºC would the tool need to be to penetrate to the film?
•How long will it need? Bearing in mind different brands of holders have different thicknesses (and possibly materials).
•How much heat and time before the paper facing starts to scorch?
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='90532' dateline='1465776509'We are thinking along the same lines. I just looked up properties of "Mylar"® (Biaxially-oriented polyethylene terephthalate) and find melting point is given as 254ºC.
What is needed is a press with a heated, 2" square (hollow), narrow rimmed top and a locating bottom guide.
My questions would be;
•How much hotter than 254ºC would the tool need to be to penetrate to the film?
•How long will it need? Bearing in mind different brands of holders have different thicknesses (and possibly materials).
•How much heat and time before the paper facing starts to scorch?
Most of the heat sealers have a variable setting.
Trial and error will determine which setting to use on each particular brand of 2x2 you need to seal I imagine :ok:
Quote from: 'r9453' pid='90512' dateline='1465763363'I wouldn't call it downright stupid and I was a bit too fastidious - trying to poke the point of the iron into/onto the cardboard. I should point out that the procedure worked as claimed and I was happy with the result. I just checked and after a week or so all is good.
You might want to write on the cardboard after. For my test I removed the staples from a couple of holders that already had writing on them. There was some smudging.
if a 2X2 ironer was in my house
he'd be sent off to the good guys to get his own iron
i'd be very crabby if my iron got ikky stuff on the plate
for sure !!!!
how about a sandwhich grill ?
just chuck the 2x2 in when you're whipping up a sunday focaccia haha
I have a heat sealer but I don't own any staple type 2x2's So I and pretty interested to see if the heat sealer idea is effective.
Does anyone have a heat sealer and the 2x2's to try this ?
I have a heat sealer
but it just does a straight thin line
I think you need something with a fair thickness to get it done evenly
That's a start. The edges of a 2x2 are defined by four straight thin lines.
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='90546' dateline='1465779481'I have a heat sealer
but it just does a straight thin line
That's all you would need. Just apply it to 3 sides as the 4th side is sealed anyway.
Like Jeff said though, scorching could be the problem.
Quote from: 'r9453' pid='90512' dateline='1465763363'trying to poke the point of the iron into/onto the cardboard.
I just use the side of the iron at its widest. More mass means more heat and less time. I do two sides, rotate the 2x2 and do the other two, with a little swipe across the 'overlaps' for good measure. Takes maybe 20 seconds.
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='90528' dateline='1465774875'I wonder if one of those heat sealer thingys would put out enough heat to seal a 2x2.
Nope. They're electronically controlled pulse sealers and won't stay on long enough to heat through cardboard. I can't even do multiple layers of plastics with mine. :(
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='90540' dateline='1465778522'i'd be very crabby if my iron got ikky stuff on the plate
for sure !!!!
EH? Was it not obvious from the outset that you must use layers of fabric top and bottom? When I first posted this, I believe I had pics of a calico bank bag with the 2x2 inside.
You most definitely do NOT want to touch the cardboard with the iron. It will burn. I think I posted a pic of my yellowed first attempt which I baked for too long under too much pressure. ;)
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='90557' dateline='1465783556'That's a start. The edges of a 2x2 are defined by four straight thin lines.
You probably don't want to be just out on the edges. Two inches is a lot of play area for a coin to escape the window. Bad enough that they do that with the adhesive ones. :(
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='90532' dateline='1465776509'What is needed is a press with a heated, 2" square (hollow), narrow rimmed top and a locating bottom guide.
Absolutely! This was my first idea, but have you looked at the prices they charge for dies??? And then you have to hold it.. and keep it away from non-heat-resistant fingers. ;)
QuoteMy questions would be;
•How much hotter than 254ºC would the tool need to be to penetrate to the film?
•How long will it need? Bearing in mind different brands of holders have different thicknesses (and possibly materials).
•How much heat and time before the paper facing starts to scorch?
Don't have the BoPET specs handy, but IIRC, the window is about 100° before it boils and self destructs. Plenty of room! I'd go half way, say a tad under 300°, to reduce the time without great danger of overheating. Might want to check the specs on the cardboard though, as I have burnt one before. ;)
20 seconds or so, from memory. I didn't time it.. probably should next time, eh? :angel:
A bit longer than necessary (yeah, this is like "how long's a bit of string" :dodgy:)
FWIW, my first effort, the scorched one, I applied way too much pressure, and actually creased the mount as well as scorching it. You really want to keep the iron moving a little so as to spread the heat. Its more art than science though. ;)
So you interested in doing my ironing :blush2:
So you want all your cuffs hermetically sealed then?
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='90583' dateline='1465805658'So you want all your cuffs hermetically sealed then?
ooooh.. don't tempt me!
Now, where did I put those spare body bags? ;)
No just my ironing :laugh2:
at least you'll be looking good in a crisply ironed body bag mate!! ha ha
:shock: now you wanna put me in a body bag, gee I only wanted my ironing done :winkextra:
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='90615' dateline='1465822359'now you wanna put me in a body bag, gee I only wanted my ironing done
That's OK.. we'll just iron your clothes.. while you're wearing them! :mafia:
QuoteI suspect trout is not quite as organised as he could be otherwise he would not have lost an entire wedding set, maybe its only misplaced.
I did end up finding that, after I had ordered a couple more off eBay of course :dash1::)
i also do that
you are not alone possum
That reminds me, there are some Wedding Sets coming up at the next Universal Coin Co auction, in case you are interested.
Quote from: 'r9453' pid='92337' dateline='1468175301'That reminds me, there are some Wedding Sets coming up at the next Universal Coin Co auction, in case you are interested.
I have a complete set of pristine coins and a few spares already so I won't be too interested in those.
For those of you who don't have any of these amazing coins it may be a good opportunity to acquire some of them :good:
2016 is an interesting year as far as adding coins to my albums because of all the different finishes available this year.
Just the 20c normal reverse have 4 different finishes alone :)
There is the circulation strike ( I chose a Baby set coin for this), the standard proof finish, the Gem Unc finish coin from the in come the dollars/cents set and the Frosted Unc coin that will come with the HM birthday set when it is finally dispatched .
Normally I only put the Unc and the proof coin for each year in the album.
OOP's make it 5 I forgot about the Silver proof coin :)
There's a couple of things that aren't too bad but just as long as they don't go anywhere near the estimates other wise they're getting a bit dear.
Quote from: 'trout' pid='92344' dateline='1468191818'the Gem Unc finish coin from the in come the dollars/cents set
Isn't Gem Unc how the RAM described the Wedding Set coins?
Quote from: 'r9453' pid='92356' dateline='1468205697'Quote from: 'trout' pid='92344' dateline='1468191818'the Gem Unc finish coin from the in come the dollars/cents set
Isn't Gem Unc how the RAM described the Wedding Set coins?
Yes they did but the finish is different to the in come the dollars/cents coins.
The fields are perfectly smooth on the Wedding set coins whereas the fields on the dollars/cents coins are somewhat granulated.
OK
I have been busy putting coins into 2x2's and adding them to the various decimal albums, I have also re arranged them a bit.
In my 25mm dollar album I have all the MOR coins separate to the commemoratives and have now done the same with the 20c and 50c coins, eg COA coins separate to the commemoratives.
Does anyone else do this ?
Yes, I do. And errors/varieties separate again.
I don't have that many error coins so I have all the different denominations in the one album. :angel:
I arrange mine with silver proofs at the front, followed by regular proofs, uncirculated (ex mint sets), NCLT and I also have a circulation set bringing up the rear. Each set is arranged chronologically and there are three albums in total. I don't have any (dollar) errors/varieties.
Quote from: 'r9453' pid='92785' dateline='1468818932'I arrange mine with silver proofs at the front, followed by regular proofs, uncirculated (ex mint sets), NCLT and I also have a circulation set bringing up the rear. Each set is arranged chronologically and there are three albums in total. I don't have any (dollar) errors/varieties.
Mine are sorted my denomination and I put the business strike, Proof and silver Proof together chronologically, The Silver Proof Dollar coins are all slabbed and are stored separately in 2 albums :)
I have just about brought all my decimal albums up to speed. :yahoo:
It has taken a while because of the volume of coins issued over the last couple of years and I still need to find a few of the recent 50 cent issues to put in the album But I will sort that out :)
Quote from: 'trout' pid='92786' dateline='1468821577'Quote from: 'r9453' pid='92785' dateline='1468818932'I arrange mine with silver proofs at the front, followed by regular proofs, uncirculated (ex mint sets), NCLT and I also have a circulation set bringing up the rear. Each set is arranged chronologically and there are three albums in total. I don't have any (dollar) errors/varieties.
Mine are sorted my denomination and I put the business strike, Proof and silver Proof together chronologically, The Silver Proof Dollar coins are all slabbed and are stored separately in 2 albums :)
My comment related to dollar coins but it seems only natural to keep the denominations separate. I don't have any decimal coins in slabs although if I was going to start doing so, I guess I would start with the silver proofs. I have not bought any decimal coins dated after 2013.
QuoteI have not bought any decimal coins dated after 2013.
When the 2015 ABC dollar coins came out I became very disenchanted with Decimal coins as a whole and didn't bother with many of the 2015 and 2016 releases.
I did get the annual proof, baby and year sets and a few other of the issues But Not to the extent that I used to readily collect because of the irrelevancy of many of the coins being produced and this is still happening.
What I have done lately is to collect ONLY what I personally consider to be relevant or appealing and to ignore the coins that don't meet my personal criteria.
These are the coins that I have recently added to my decimal albums and I am quite happy and content even though I don't now have a "Complete" set of every single coin the mint has produced in ever growing numbers over the last few years.
What I do have are sets of coins that I like and feel comfortable with and I now don't feel obliged to buy every different coin produced just to maintain a "complete" set of coins.
Yes that makes sense, basically leave out the GB. I found it easier to simply draw a line at the end of 2013 and leave it at that. So I don't have to think about which coins are worthy or not. If I did resume my decimal collection I would start with the proof and Unc. year sets since these are the classic record of strike issues. I don't even try to find a full set of circulation coins from my change since I rarely use change any more.
For me getting back to basics is the pre-decs, these are the coins of my youth that my father took out of his fob pocket each night when he came home from work and placed on the sideboard next to his keys and I would go through them. I was allowed to keep everything but the shillings and florins as my pocket money which I spent (unfortunately).
Having said that my decimal coins outnumber the pre-decs by about 5 to 1 which I am trying to redress by selling off the GB starting with the coloured dollars.
Before I had finished my pre decimal sets I didn't have that much interest in Decimal coins But once I started on them the sets grew rather rapidly as I learned to appreciate them.
Now I probably have 3 times as many decimal coins as I do pre decimals as they tend to outnumber the amount of pre decimal coins minted by a long way.
As far as GB goes I can't break the habit of buying the stuff that I think is appealing and will continue to do so :angel:
Anyway some of the GB coins over the years actually become highly sought after coins, The Maundy coins are a perfect example of this :)
I have had a lot of fun with the set registry pissing contests as well since I decided to get some of my coins graded and the coins do look rather "Flash" in their album pages and fancy wooden boxes that hold my more prized coins :)
So now I am just ambling along collecting what I like without any pressure to complete any particular coin series and I am starting to have a lot of fun again with this.
Maundy Coins being described as 'Granny Bait'. :shok::scratch_one-s_head::dontknow::blackeye:
350 years of history! :angel:
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='93373' dateline='1469746690'Maundy Coins being described as 'Granny Bait'. :shok::scratch_one-s_head::dontknow::blackeye:
350 years of history! :angel:
If you think about it they are NCLT and pretty much what we would refer to as GB if RAM decided to produce a similar product today :angel:
All good Jim, had to reply after cleaning my porridge off the keyboard!
A gift (reward) from the Royal family to seniors is in my opinion a step or two up.
:drinks:
HeHe
Yes I suppose they are a bit of a step up from an ABC dollar coin :angel: