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Title: 2013 Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Bigfellani5 on January 04, 2013, 01:30:05 PM
Hi guys

This thread is designed for corrections that are needed to the Maccas book. It is not designed for criticism or discussion of pricing etc. It is for factual mistakes, typing, imaging or formatting errors,  or mistakes in pricing. When making a suggestion to correct a price please show at least one or more confirmed sales that can be verified (whether this be auction prices, a number of ebay sales or dealer websites or catalogues).

Other discussions outside the idea of this thread should be discussed elsewhere on this forum.

It would be appreciated if the moderators could police the intention of this thread.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: gnome on January 04, 2013, 02:22:32 PM
Just a quick one, the price for Unc Coombs/Wilson general prefixes at  $1000, could that have been a typo with  an extra zero. The a/unc is $40, last year it [2012 19th ed.] it was at $85.
Just an inquiry,  only.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: enworb on January 04, 2013, 05:45:14 PM
Page 91
1954 6d
Price for Gem: 6230
Price for Proof: 09i00
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Mister T on January 04, 2013, 06:53:54 PM
On page 291 there is a section about the large and small head George V sovereigns. It should probably be in the sovereign section rather than the Perth Mint bullion coins section.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Steveqld on January 04, 2013, 07:04:31 PM
p 123 the mintages for the 2010, 2011 and 2012 10 cent mintages are all 20,000,000 with same prices.  Looks like a copy and paste.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: enworb on January 04, 2013, 07:57:48 PM
The 1977 10c mintage is shown as 10,940,000 which reflects the figure on the RAM website. This would make 1977 one of the lower mintage years which is not consistent with what one can find in circulation. On CCF various older catalogues quoted the mitage at around 24 million. I understand if you would like to keep it consistent with the RAM website but i am fairly confident that the figure is incorrect.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Mister T on January 05, 2013, 07:55:28 AM
On page 129 there is a heading describing the 2001 Bradman 20c as "1995 SIR DONALD TRIBUTE". It should probably be "2001 SIR DONALD BRADMAN TRIBUTE".
On page 137 footnote b cuts off mid-sentence.
On page 154 (top) the Fine Silver composition is given as 999% but should probably be 99.9%
On page 360 there are some typographical errors: "Bank or New South Wales" should be "Bank of New South Wales", "runs fro 1 to 21" should be "runs from 1 to 21" and "No all these issues" should probably be "Not all these issues"
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: markn on January 05, 2013, 08:00:23 AM
This thread is locked until matters raised elsewhere on this site are resolved.  If you have corrections you can communicate them directly to the author of the book via email: greg.mcdonald@optusnet.com.au

You never know, if you make a significant contribution he might even give you a free copy.

Quote from: 'Greg McDonald' pid='5637' dateline='1357169929'If it really bugs you why don't list the corrections and I can promise you they will be in the next edition.  If you do it I will be happy to send you a free copy of the hardbound book which is limited to just 500 copies a year.  I will also make the same offer to anyone else who makes a substantial contribution to improving the book.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: markn on January 06, 2013, 03:54:25 PM
The matters have now been resolved and this thread is now unlocked.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: trout on January 06, 2013, 04:07:28 PM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='5837' dateline='1357449865'The matters have now been resolved and this thread is now unlocked.

Great news Mark, Good to see that everything is sorted out:yahoo:
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: ausjack on January 09, 2013, 07:15:12 PM
Sorry for going :off_topic: but I think it was on CCF that there was a thread like this and they said they make these so called printing errors on purpose so it easier to claim plagiarism if you take stuff from their books, sounds like it could be right other wise why so many mistakes..no spell check or proof reading etc but that seem to be the way these days and the papers are a prime example :off_topic:
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: MobOfRoos on January 10, 2013, 09:39:14 AM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='6053' dateline='1357721112'they make these so called printing errors on purpose so it easier to claim plagiarism if you take stuff from their books.

I don't think thats true. You will find a lot of these type of books which have lots of statistics end up with typos. I dont know the exact process of how it gets into print but it seems that somewhere along the chain the odd gremlin sneaks in.

For me the most glaring error in the book relates to the 1994 Year of the Family 50c on page 139. It states that in circulation the "narrow" date is rare and the "wide" date is common. It also gives higher prices for the "narrow" date. In fact the opposite is true. In circulation it is the "narrow" date which is common. It certainly caused me some confusion while noodling when I kept getting narrow dates.

It wasn't until I read this

http://reviews.ebay.com.au/1994-50-cent-coin-Wide-Date-Variety-identification?ugid=10000000004643806

that I realised what was happening
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: ausjack on January 10, 2013, 10:10:52 AM
Yeah Rennik's seems better going off that roo

Quote from: 'MobOfRoos' pid='6064' dateline='1357772954'I realised what was happening

:scratch_one-s_head: so what is actually happening?

:dash1: I get it now sorry it's the other way around..you change the odd thing here and there and say it's yours so you don't get done  :good:
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Greg McDonald on January 10, 2013, 11:18:09 AM
Hi everyone,

Firstly my sincere thanks to Shane for starting this thread and especially for his comments about keeping the content good humoured and constructive. I'm not against criticism I just want to learn from my mistakes and work to improving the guide.  Already some really good information has been posted and I'm grateful for that.  All corrections will be attended to so please don't think you are wasting your time by adding your comments and suggestions. Please keep it up.

Much appreciated.  Regards to all

Greg
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: JeffH on January 12, 2013, 05:23:03 AM
Page 157 (twentieth edition) 2001, Navy 90th Anniversary. Second price column is headed "Security Roll". I think that should be "Retail Price" (as per Army and RAAF listings).

Jeff
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: echidna on January 13, 2013, 12:23:32 PM
Not a correction - rather an addition:
Page 42 - an 1861 half sov type 2/2 was recently discovered.
Refer page 28 August 2012 CAB magazine.
Also Walter Eigner publicized this coin in his Bluesheet:
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http://www.bluesheet.com.au/Australia/Gold/Half_Sovereign/Sydney_Mint/Type_II_Alternate_Reverse/
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: wwwww on January 15, 2013, 10:53:21 AM
My calculation there is wrong, a survival rate of 0.5% with 7 known adds up to 1400.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: MobOfRoos on January 15, 2013, 08:39:48 PM
I'm not sure if this is an error or just a curiosity but if you look on the back cover I wonder why the RAM are advertising their 2012 proof sets?

:whistle2:
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Mister T on January 15, 2013, 09:24:50 PM
Yeah I was wondering about that too. Last year's edition had the 2012 add as well I think.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Mister T on January 16, 2013, 10:05:24 PM
Page 147: "some pf the above" should be "some of the above"
Page 361: "Wesleyans This" should be "Wesleyans. This"
Page 369: "October 977" should probably be "October 1977"
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Bigfellani5 on January 17, 2013, 12:24:30 PM
pp145 50c Gymnastics...greg says $20.00. Here are 2 ebay sales with coin at $80.00.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/230910116763?nma=true&si=wGX2M0g7%2FvF9ct8iPDTh76%2B3kv4%3D&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2557&orig_cvip=true#ht_4608wt_1255
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2006-UNC-50c-COMMONWEALTH-GAMES-GYMNASTICS-COIN-ON-CARD-/330820227045?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item4d066c0fe5&_uhb=1#ht_4296wt_1255

This coin often sells for more than this on ebay. Never see them go for less than this. Suggested new price at $90.00.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Graham on January 17, 2013, 01:08:44 PM
Bigfella,
Are you only discussing the carded Gymnastics 50 Cent? Or can we include all the carded Melbourne Commonwealth Games 50 cents?

I don't have this years Macca's yet, but last year saw these at $18 each.  What such a hike in price? Mind you, I'm not fussed, I bought 20 of each when they first came out.

You should note that there are two varieties for most of these coins, i.e., the 'spaced' and the 'joined' IRB.  The following are what I have.

Aquatics   
   Joined IRB
Athletics   
   Joined IRB
Badminton   
   Spaced IRB
Basketball   
   Joined IRB
   Spaced IRB
Boxing   
   Joined IRB
Cycling   
   Joined IRB
Gymnastics   
   Joined IRB
Hockey   
   Joined IRB
Lawn Bowls   
   Joined IRB
Netball   
   Joined IRB
Rugby 7s   
   Joined IRB
Shooting   
   Joined IRB
   Spaced IRB
Squash   
   Joined IRB
   Spaced IRB
Table Tennis   
   Joined IRB
   Spaced IRB
Triathlon   
   Joined IRB
Weight Lifting   
   Joined IRB
   Spaced IRB


Also in 2006
Queens Birthday   
   Joined IRB
   Spaced IRB
   Spaced IRB - Weak Strike Obverse
Royal Visit   
   Joined IRB
   Spaced IRB
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Mister T on January 17, 2013, 08:59:07 PM
Very interesting find Graham. I thought 2001 was the last year of the various IRB spacings.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Bigfellani5 on January 17, 2013, 10:27:11 PM
I am only talking gymnastics. Without doing too much research $20 to $25 would pull most of the rest up
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Mister T on January 18, 2013, 08:50:37 PM
Is there any reason they're so expensive? I see they're not the lowest mintage, so were they the first or last released or something?
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Bigfellani5 on January 20, 2013, 02:18:17 PM
Guessing a lot were lost to the gymnastic community and are out of the hands of collectors
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Mister T on January 20, 2013, 08:03:31 PM
Page 364: the second McPFB/ 04 L/8 should probably be McPFB/ 04 N/8
Page 366: "Bank of suggested" should probably be "Bank of Australasia was suggested"
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Mister T on February 21, 2013, 01:35:51 PM
Page 156: 2000 THE CENTENARY OF FEDERATION should be 2001 THE CENTENARY OF FEDERATION.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: errorsarebest on March 05, 2013, 11:30:35 PM
I see that the 1977 coat of arms reverse 50 cent mule coin and the 1988 coat of arms reverse 50 cent mule coin are not mentioned in the 20th edition. They were on the bottom of page 134 in the 19th edition. Is this an oversight or is there a reason for omitting these coins? An example of the 1977 coat of arms reverse 50 cent mule coin sold at auction in the last weeks for $15,500 plus commission.  Perhaps I am just looking in the wrong part of the book.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: trout on March 09, 2013, 05:55:38 AM
I am amazed that none of you "Eagle Eyes" haven't picked this one up yet :angel:

Page 145
2006 Melbourne Games Issues
Illustrations (O) and (P) are the same Squash coins :yahoo:
No Lawn bowls coin pic
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Mister T on March 09, 2013, 09:28:10 AM
Very well spotted trout!

On p156 OLYMPILEX should be OLMYPHILEX
On p157 there's a * in reference to the Volunteer's Security Roll value but there's no accompanying footnote.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Fulvio on July 15, 2013, 01:37:23 AM
1981 20ยข mintages were:
1981:  65,503,000
1981:  50,000,000, Wales
1981:  50,000,000, Canada v-3.5 Claw

yet the entry for Canberra is the total of all three, 165,503,000
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: trout on July 15, 2013, 06:22:57 AM
The reference to the 2006 50 years of TV "S" mintmark Sydney fair Silver Proof $1 coin on page 162  should be removed as this coin doesn't actually exist .
ALL the ANDA silver proofs were "A" mint marked for this issue :ok:
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: wwwww on August 09, 2013, 07:19:57 PM
I'm assuming the mess of the 1919-20 pennies has been mentioned already, an MS64RB 1919 penny sold for close to $10k on eBay recently.

Also the Melbourne mint didn't produce any half pennies until 1923, the 1920 was struck in Sydney - there is thus no such thing as the 1920 "pattern" half penny.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: echidna on August 09, 2013, 07:40:31 PM
Page 43 the 1857 overdate pic appears to be the dropped 7 variety rather than an overdate.
Pages 45 to 49 - some of the photos have been mixed up eg page 45 the two reverses are of the same coin.
Page 43 - the double R half sov - it would be more correct to describe it as R over E.
Page 43 - 1864 Arabic 1 half sov - probably more correct to describe it as "letter I instead of 1".
1933/2 overdate half penny -  The jury may still be out but there should be some mention of it.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: runway on August 09, 2013, 10:30:33 PM
Does Greg realise this?
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: Fordprefect on August 10, 2013, 10:13:08 AM
Quote from: 'runway' pid='24398' dateline='1376053233'Does Greg realise this?

Greg is a member of this forum. :angel:
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: runway on August 10, 2013, 11:08:48 PM
I haven't seen any acknowledgement or postings from Greg here in ages
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: robbiegal on August 11, 2013, 01:31:18 PM
I wouldn't blame him
it was pretty hostile there towards him

i'd give the place a wide berth if it were me!
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: trout on August 11, 2013, 01:35:03 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='24514' dateline='1376193678'I wouldn't blame him
it was pretty hostile there towards him

i'd give the place a wide berth if it were me!

No ALL of us RG :ok:
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: robbiegal on August 11, 2013, 06:36:03 PM
true
you were most certainly a peace maker
I did notice that
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: trout on August 11, 2013, 10:28:48 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='24540' dateline='1376211963'true
you were most certainly a peace maker
I did notice that

Thanks Mate :heart:
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: ausjack on August 11, 2013, 10:32:01 PM
:laugh2:

did anyone get a free book??
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: markn on August 12, 2013, 11:52:02 AM
Before anyone else is tempted to join in on this off-topic discussion....don't.  This thread is for corrections to Greg's book and nothing else.  Any further off-topic posts in this thread will be deleted.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: runway on October 20, 2013, 11:12:48 PM
Page 220 in McDonald 2013 Pocket guide.
2012 Mint Set Issue price stated as $64.75
Issue price was $32.50 as I advised this eBay seller

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2012-Australia-RAM-Mint-Coin-Set-Special-edition-with-Coloured-50-Cent-coin-/251354631788?ssPageName=ADME%3AX%3AeRTM%3AAU%3A1123&nma=true&si=QPD97ABu%252BnQFCYXEgmDpXN8W4CU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Greg McDonald email address  greg.mcdonald@optusnet.com.au looks like its now dead
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: echidna on October 21, 2013, 07:52:19 PM
New addition:
1858 half sovereign RFG instead of REG
http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=1051
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: emu666 on October 22, 2013, 06:15:40 PM
Quote from: 'runway' pid='31634' dateline='1382272968'.........
Greg McDonald email address  greg.mcdonald@optusnet.com.au looks like its now dead

What response did you get when the email bounced?
It may just be that his mailbox is over quota. Or possibly you managed to accidentally trigger his anti work filter.
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: runway on October 30, 2013, 11:27:57 PM
Sorted..Greg McDonald emails now back
Title: RE: Maccas Book Corrections
Post by: markn on November 13, 2013, 08:02:47 PM
Mintage for 1954 Royal Visit florin says 2 million.  But, latest Renniks says 4 million, Hanley's 1966 "Collecting Australian Coins" says 4 million, and Greg's 1991 2nd Edition "Collecting and Investing in Australian Coins and Banknotes" says 4 million on page 189.

EDIT

Just checked a few other 1970 era references.  They say 4 million too.  Krause says 4 million.  Earliest Macca's we have is 1996 and that says 2 million.