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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Errors and Varieties => Topic started by: markn on April 05, 2016, 07:47:33 PM

Title: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: markn on April 05, 2016, 07:47:33 PM
The double struck part is so far out of the plane of the coin I couldn't get it to focus on the whole coin.

(http://www.mycoinalog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/australia-1981-20c-double-strike.jpg)
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: robbiegal on April 05, 2016, 07:50:04 PM
we really do need a 'like' button !!!
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: trout on April 05, 2016, 07:50:49 PM
Nice one Mark :good:
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: Unicorn on April 05, 2016, 07:53:01 PM
How cool is that!!!

What do you think went on with the straight line on the right of the obverse? Some sort of ejection issue perhaps?
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: ausjack on April 05, 2016, 07:54:37 PM
wow, very nice coin Mark :good:
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: trout on April 05, 2016, 07:56:39 PM
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='86673' dateline='1459851781'How cool is that!!!

What do you think went on with the straight line on the right of the obverse? Some sort of ejection issue perhaps?

I would hazard a guess that the coin was forced under part of the press when the second strike occurred .
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: gnome on April 05, 2016, 08:01:49 PM
Nice :)
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: markn on April 05, 2016, 08:04:26 PM
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='86673' dateline='1459851781'How cool is that!!!

What do you think went on with the straight line on the right of the obverse? Some sort of ejection issue perhaps?

Either damaged getting jammed under some part of the press, perhaps a feeder finger?  Or caused by a machine operator chiselling the coin out of the press.
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: Unicorn on April 05, 2016, 08:27:21 PM
It's really interesting how the reverse bulge appears void of design whilst the obverse bulge is very clearly struck. Maybe a blank planchet in the press under the reverse?

Such an interesting error, it's like a murder mystery.
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: markn on April 05, 2016, 08:32:43 PM
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='86684' dateline='1459853841'It's really interesting how the reverse bulge appears void of design whilst the obverse bulge is very clearly struck. Maybe a blank planchet in the press under the reverse?

Such an interesting error, it's like a murder mystery.

Yes almost certainly struck against a blank. Somewhere out there is a matching indent error with a partial blockage in the indent.
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: r9453 on April 06, 2016, 06:28:09 AM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='86679' dateline='1459852466'Or caused by a machine operator chiselling the coin out of the press.

At that point the operator would normally put it in some kind of reject bin for recycling?
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: markn on April 06, 2016, 07:37:00 AM
Quote from: 'r9453' pid='86707' dateline='1459889889'
Quote from: 'markn' pid='86679' dateline='1459852466'Or caused by a machine operator chiselling the coin out of the press.

At that point the operator would normally put it in some kind of reject bin for recycling?

You'd think that but 1981 was a very different time to now.
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: Unicorn on April 06, 2016, 07:50:27 AM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='86709' dateline='1459894020'You'd think that but 1981 was a very different time to now.

Now is certainly a different time to 8080s, CP/M and S-100 Buses!
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: gnome on April 06, 2016, 11:54:58 AM
3 Different mints in play as well wasn't there
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: r9453 on April 06, 2016, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: 'gnome' pid='86729' dateline='1459909498'3 Different mints in play as well wasn't there

Good point, many millions minted at each and a lot of operators.
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: purplepennyhunter on April 06, 2016, 07:05:56 PM
To help you get your head around how this error happened here are some images of another error coin, a pair of errors that sold on eBay about 3 years ago. Sellers images and I didn't buy the coins, they did sell for $4,000 for the pair. Pictures borrowed from eBay.

The 20c is the (same as the) double struck half of this pair. Wow it would be cool to find its mate!

Ian McConnelly calls these errors saddle strikes. Technically I don't know if that's correct, I have heard them called a mated pair but we don't have the pair. The 20c is double struck against a blank and the other error this jam created is an indent with a brockage.

Note: there is also damage to the double struck half of this pair.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/1969-10c-error-pair.jpg)
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: robbiegal on April 06, 2016, 09:12:01 PM
wow
thanks PP
1969 as well

definitely from the depths of the vault
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: r9453 on April 07, 2016, 05:16:46 AM
Indeed a fascinating set of images that explains very well how the OP coin was struck (whatever you call it).
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: Pedro on April 07, 2016, 09:14:02 AM
Very very nice :drooling:

Pedro
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: ausjack on April 07, 2016, 09:32:03 AM
Yes those coins would be an awesome find IF you could find them. I'm lucky to find anything good, I'm just not lucky :(
One for Uni :mocking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3tl9xM1_wM
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: Unicorn on April 07, 2016, 04:29:02 PM
:laugh2: On ya AJ ..... I was going to give you Judy Garland but thought you'd like this one more ...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DbAEO4Chbo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DbAEO4Chbo)
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: ausjack on April 07, 2016, 09:33:23 PM
:blink: that is just so wrong in so many ways :laugh2:
Title: RE: Double Struck 1981 20c
Post by: r9453 on April 08, 2016, 06:14:21 AM
I found these images online (Facebook), to me it looks similar to the OP coin except only one strike and made in 2005.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11093/2005_20c_Error.jpg)