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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Errors and Varieties => Topic started by: echidna on February 14, 2016, 11:21:01 AM

Title: How could this happen ?
Post by: echidna on February 14, 2016, 11:21:01 AM
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc462/joseywales10/1947penny_k2_zpsa0kn2nwg.jpg)
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc462/joseywales10/1947penny_k1_zpsskqucgxs.jpg)

(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc462/joseywales10/1947penny_k3_zpsjrcnl7hc.jpg)
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc462/joseywales10/aa_zpsfkdydhab.jpg)
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc462/joseywales10/47x_zpsyroqk5ce.jpg)




Double struck obverse.
Reverse is normal and shows some re-cutting of the legends however no evidence of a double strike.
How could a coin be double struck on one side only ?
Title: RE: How could this happen ?
Post by: robbiegal on February 14, 2016, 11:34:41 AM
the reverse looks slightly doubled to me

perhaps the die set was coming loose at the time and one side was more wobbly than the other
isn't Melbourne notorious for a hob knuckle thingee that wobbled during minting?
Title: RE: How could this happen ?
Post by: echidna on February 14, 2016, 11:43:43 AM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='84519' dateline='1455411881'the reverse looks slightly doubled to me


perhaps the die set was coming loose at the time and one side was more wobbly than the other
isn't Melbourne notorious for a hob knuckle thingee that wobbled during minting?

There is some re-cutting to the reverse which appears as slight doubling but its not double struck.
Melbourne ?
Title: RE: How could this happen ?
Post by: robbiegal on February 14, 2016, 12:03:36 PM
I have a coin somewhere in my albums (a PL) where the DIE was double struck - not the coin
I showed the said coin to a friend who used to make the dies up and he laughed when I showed it to him - laughed with embarrassment. He said that he has done the same thing when getting the dies ready and after annealing he had reset the master dies out of kilt and double struck the minting die - he said it is a minting error and it should be noted wit the die being destroyed
I did wonder if that coin had a similar history
my coin is exactly & neatly doubled but I think it is a bit different to yours
i'll try to find a pic

your coin is definitely looking as if it is double struck obverse but the question is whether it is the working die or the coin
Title: RE: How could this happen ?
Post by: markn on February 14, 2016, 12:30:01 PM
I think that one of the dies being loose is the only real explanation.  The reverse doubling looks like machine doubling rather than die recutting.
Title: RE: How could this happen ?
Post by: purplepennyhunter on February 14, 2016, 12:32:44 PM
Here is some good info (http://minterrornews.com/news-1-30-07-doubling.html). It shows a NZ florin very similar (2a and 2b).
Title: RE: How could this happen ?
Post by: echidna on February 14, 2016, 12:49:23 PM
Thats it exactly !
I can see the similarity between the Kiwi florin and my penny.
I guess the Perth mint was using the obverse die as the hammer...

Thanks everyone for responding.