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Numismatic Discussion => Coin Chit Chat => Topic started by: trout on February 06, 2016, 08:05:25 AM

Title: Where to next ??
Post by: trout on February 06, 2016, 08:05:25 AM
With the proliferation of new decimal coins being issued over the last few years I am getting a bit "Jaded" with my Decimal collections.
Don't get me wrong I still enjoy my Decimals But keeping the different denomination sets up to date has now become rather irksome and more of a task than a joy.

My Canadian 50c and US Kennedy collections still hold my interest because they are not issued in a plethora of different mint marks/privy marks, also I am having some fun with the Silver Canadian dollars.

My Brit Indian type set is all but complete except for the super expensive Gold coins that I would like to add to it but are way above my "Pay Grade".

Maundy coins are interesting , also they are quite an attractive coin type with some interesting history behind them so these are keeping me busy at the moment.

So , where to from here ???

The Brit colonial African coins have some great designs and the pre decimal Brit coins look pretty good as well.
I suppose I will  just have to wait and see where my numismatic interests take me :angel:
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: matttheriley on February 06, 2016, 08:42:18 AM
Morgan Dollars
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: trout on February 06, 2016, 08:49:11 AM
Quote from: 'matttheriley' pid='84228' dateline='1454710338'Morgan Dollars

Been there Done that :angel:
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: matttheriley on February 06, 2016, 08:51:07 AM
What's your collection of Morgan's like?
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: JeffH on February 06, 2016, 08:59:54 AM
How about (former) British colonies? Enough of them to keep you going for a long time and some have quite nice designs. Malaya or Fiji could be a good start.
Or perhaps a thematic collection.
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: trout on February 06, 2016, 09:06:08 AM
Quote from: 'matttheriley' pid='84230' dateline='1454710867'What's your collection of Morgan's like?

I sold them a few years ago along with all my junk Silver.
They were all just average coins and Silver was over $40 per oz.
The proceeds from this helped to form the basis of the collections that I now have :yahoo:
Not really a fan of the quite Masculine portrait of Miss Liberty anyway :angel:
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: Nevol on February 06, 2016, 09:06:21 AM
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='84231' dateline='1454711394'Or perhaps a thematic collection.
Like pretty birdies?:angel:
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: trout on February 06, 2016, 09:08:01 AM
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='84233' dateline='1454711781'
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='84231' dateline='1454711394'Or perhaps a thematic collection.
Like pretty birdies?:angel:

I normally send those coins to you :angel:

QuoteHow about (former) British colonies? Enough of them to keep you going for a long time and some have quite nice designs. Malaya or Fiji could be a good start.
 Or perhaps a thematic collection.

Yes, I have been thinking along those lines :good:
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: matttheriley on February 06, 2016, 10:26:43 AM
How about a Proof 1927 Florin (mintage 400) , then you can try to accumulate the same percentage of the mintage of the circulated version! (5,000 coins!) LOL
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: Nevol on February 06, 2016, 12:25:35 PM
Fiji Pre Decimal should be quite doable.  I have 2 full sets of them.  

½d   10  1934-54
1d   24  1934-68
3d   12  1947-67
6d   15  1934-67
1/-   13  1934-65
2/-   14  1934-65
   
So a complete set of them consists of 88 coins.
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: JeffH on February 06, 2016, 01:23:32 PM
I recently completed a Fiji pre set and didn't have to actually buy many singly -picked up many from mixed lots. Usually plenty on eBay at any time and a little patience will get some at low prices.
eBay listings (http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/Coins-/11116/i.html?_from=R40&_ipg=200&_nkw=fiji&_sop=15)
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: trout on February 06, 2016, 02:31:49 PM
Thanks for the ideas guys/gals , I appreciate it :good:
I am going to do something unusual this time and take my time working out which way I want to go instead of going like a Bull at a gate like I normally do :angel:

There is another World coin auction coming up on Numisbid late in May that should have some rather nice coins in it and I may pick a direction up from what is offered there.
It is going to take a few months to find the last 2 sets I need for my Edward Maundy set at least, So no rush :)
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: trout on February 07, 2016, 03:55:05 AM
Quote from: 'matttheriley' pid='84240' dateline='1454716603'How about a Proof 1927 Florin (mintage 400) , then you can try to accumulate the same percentage of the mintage of the circulated version! (5,000 coins!) LOL

The Proof Canberra florin is WAY above my pay grade But I do have a Proof Like coin and I think the mintage on that one is 1

:) :dance2:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/PL_canberra1.jpg)
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: robbiegal on February 07, 2016, 10:58:31 AM
feeling a bit the same
we will pop down to the local coin show and first for the year
but honestly - there is nothing that I think I want to buy

sure I will get there and fall in love with something and then bring it home (coins that is)

but overall, there is nothing aside from trying to spot a high grade 1964 penny
not sure if it a type of saturation where I know I will 'just have to have it'
and then what?  it gets filed in a folder for the occasional viewing and enjoyment or doesn't match up to others in my sets so I flip it on ebay (which is a bit of fun)

ho hum ....
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: robbiegal on February 08, 2016, 08:25:10 AM
well, I went along to the coin and stamp show
spent a couple of hours there and revived my coin interest a tad
AND only spent $50 on a few 1966 50c and a few daggy pennies
so áppy enough

even dragged out some of my albums last night and had a look see
nice to review my collection and see that I am going OK with coin quality etc when compared to the dealers books
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: matttheriley on February 09, 2016, 03:37:53 AM
US Classic Commemorative Half Dollars

http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/9312
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: robbiegal on February 09, 2016, 09:29:03 PM
very beautiful but way outta my price range
guess i'll still stick with my aussie penny obsession
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: Nevol on February 10, 2016, 08:43:31 AM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='84372' dateline='1455015543'very beautiful but way outta my price range
:i_agree: My pockets are not deep enough.
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: matttheriley on February 10, 2016, 09:29:31 AM
That Hudson Bay is probably one of the more expensive issues for classic US commemorative, but I thought it might interest Trout since it has a fish, and I believe a reference to his name.
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: trout on February 10, 2016, 10:01:15 AM
There are some really nice designs on the commemorative US half dollars.
I have a couple I think , I will try and dig one out .
As far as collecting these as a series I think that it will be too expensive to buy the already graded coins and finding a raw and genuine one in Aus is a pretty big call.
Besides I prefer a coin with an effigy of a brit Monarch on the obverse.
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: Triggersmob on February 13, 2016, 12:15:49 PM
What about putting together a nice set of the aluminium coins from the French colonies. They are the 1, 2 & 5 franc coins. These are very nice coins in uncirculated condition. Places like New Caledonia, French Polynesia, Afars & Issas, French Somalialand, Cameroon, French West Africa, Reunion Island, Saint Pierre & Miquelon, etc.
Not sure how many others there are.  

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/1965_French_Somaliland_2_Francs~0.JPG)
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: trout on February 13, 2016, 12:22:29 PM
I don't know why but I am not that keen on aluminium coins, they just don't "Feel" like real money to me :angel:
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: Triggersmob on February 13, 2016, 02:31:24 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='84487' dateline='1455328349'I don't know why but I am not that keen on aluminium coins, they just don't "Feel" like real money to me :angel:

I would have to agree about how they feel, but some do look really nice. I think that might be because they mint well, being a soft metal.
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: jrg_from_oz on February 18, 2016, 07:33:18 PM
What about the GB Victorian silver (florin/shilling/sixpence) from the die number period (1864-1879)?

The beauty of this series is that it is still, 150 years later, possible to locate a previously-unrecorded die number. There's also the knowledge that we're collecting coins which had as their sole purpose to circulate as currency.

There's a huge range to pick from (some shillings had 100+ die numbers in one year), but you can easily specialise in one particular area. My collection is specifically the sixpences of 1867 and 1868, which covers the change of bust. There are 30 1867 combinations of bust and die number known (I have 27), and 23 for 1868 (I have 20).

The advantage of this series is that only a few mad people around the world are interested in the die numbers, so you will only ever pay the standard price for a particular date from dealer stock, even when you know it may be the only recorded example of a particular die number. Ebay and auctions might cost you more, depending on how many of us mad people spot it too

John
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: Goldseeker on February 18, 2016, 07:52:04 PM
Are the die numbers actually imprinted into the coin somewhere or are they determined by minor changes in the design.

Pictures would be nice.
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: robbiegal on February 18, 2016, 08:40:49 PM
printed on the coin as far as I know
they actually have the numbers

http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/dieno.html

Goldie if you click the little descriptor links in the coin heading you will see an image that shoes where the die numbers sit
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: Goldseeker on February 19, 2016, 04:45:40 PM
Thanks.   That is a clear explanation and photo.

I have just tried it out on my sovereigns but tit won't work on Aussie sovereigns will it?

Gees I am a dummy.
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: robbiegal on February 19, 2016, 05:51:34 PM
not sure
I think it has to be English Mintage
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: jrg_from_oz on February 19, 2016, 06:55:26 PM
Robbiegal is correct.

The die number experiment was carried out only at the Royal Mint, not at any branch mints, and is believed to have been a method for recording the longevity of dies. I say "believed" because to my knowledge, no-one has found anything in the RM reports of the time setting out the details of the experiment.

John
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: trout on February 23, 2016, 09:08:44 PM
I am thinking of expanding the scope of my Maundy sets and maybe get some nice Brit coins for now :)
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: oh my florin on March 03, 2016, 08:15:16 PM
Ancients? or maybe something a bit out there like Canberra Florins? :P
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: JeffH on March 04, 2016, 05:10:28 AM
Quotemaybe something a bit out there like Canberra Florins
Ooh you are naughty!

How about military and internment camp issues? Although you would need rather deep pockets for some of that, especially the Hay notes.
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: oh my florin on March 04, 2016, 09:21:33 AM
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='85198' dateline='1457030428'
Quotemaybe something a bit out there like Canberra Florins
Ooh you are naughty!

How about military and internment camp issues? Although you would need rather deep pockets for some of that, especially the Hay notes.

Haha I try :P
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: robbiegal on March 04, 2016, 08:15:50 PM
now guys don't encourage him too much
the wife wants her camping van dragged into the 21st Century with all the mod cons, like l.e.d. solar power lights, portable lightweight freezers and a soft comfy bed to crash on
if he blows all his dough on internment tokens then wife-ie will be stuck at home and trout will be downgraded to go off fishing with just his swag, an esky  and maybe the luxury of a mosquito net for sunrise sandfly protection

unless he hocks the esky for that one extra dollar to buy that token
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: Goldseeker on March 04, 2016, 08:47:30 PM
And what's wrong with a bit of roughing it in the bush doing what one wants.........?

I recommend the Internment Tokens.   I bought a full set a couple of years ago at a coin show in Melbourne.

They really do look nice.
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: trout on March 04, 2016, 11:57:49 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='85221' dateline='1457086650'And what's wrong with a bit of roughing it in the bush doing what one wants.........?

I recommend the Internment Tokens.   I bought a full set a couple of years ago at a coin show in Melbourne.

They really do look nice.

Been there done that with the roughing it in the bush about time i took advantage of the new tech camping gear :)
We now have all the mod cons that make an extended trip in the bush a breeze and as i have spent a fair chunk of change buying all the gear i will have to delay any more coin purchases for a wee bit anyway.
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: keldaw on March 05, 2016, 05:48:18 PM
if any body was going to try their hand at collecting error coins ,
would this be classed as an error ???

in the ocean series of coloured dollar coins , one of mine has no cut out on the cardboard to use if you were going to hang them on a hook . would that be classed as an error ??
example  == (http://i68.tinypic.com/sbhw1c.jpg)
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: robbiegal on March 06, 2016, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='85221' dateline='1457086650'And what's wrong with a bit of roughing it in the bush doing what one wants.........?

I recommend the Internment Tokens.   I bought a full set a couple of years ago at a coin show in Melbourne.

They really do look nice.

ha ha
says the guy who goes on luxurious extended cruises these days!!
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: Goldseeker on March 07, 2016, 07:34:24 PM
Kel-The seahorse is the same, no cut out.

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='85266' dateline='1457222086'
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='85221' dateline='1457086650'And what's wrong with a bit of roughing it in the bush doing what one wants.........?

I recommend the Internment Tokens.   I bought a full set a couple of years ago at a coin show in Melbourne.

They really do look nice.

ha ha
says the guy who goes on luxurious extended cruises these days!!

Hey, hang on, I used to rough it when I was in the Army many times whilst out in the bush on exercise.   Then after that, for 21 years, I was a part time gold prospector living in a tent and sleeping bag.

Nothing wrong in roughing it except when someone yells out at the top of their voice in the middle of a crowded camp, "Hey Bruce, where ya going with dat shovel?".
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: keldaw on March 07, 2016, 08:04:00 PM
Kel-The seahorse is the same, no cut out.

THANKS BRUCE .
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: robbiegal on March 07, 2016, 08:58:26 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='85335' dateline='1457341464'Kel-The seahorse is the same, no cut out.


Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='85266' dateline='1457222086'
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='85221' dateline='1457086650'And what's wrong with a bit of roughing it in the bush doing what one wants.........?

I recommend the Internment Tokens.   I bought a full set a couple of years ago at a coin show in Melbourne.

They really do look nice.

ha ha
says the guy who goes on luxurious extended cruises these days!!

Hey, hang on, I used to rough it when I was in the Army many times whilst out in the bush on exercise.   Then after that, for 21 years, I was a part time gold prospector living in a tent and sleeping bag.

Nothing wrong in roughing it except when someone yells out at the top of their voice in the middle of a crowded camp, "Hey Bruce, where ya going with dat shovel?".

ha ha thought i'd get a bite!!
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: trout on March 08, 2016, 06:19:03 AM
I have a nice 1937 Brit Specimen set coming from the UK in the mail and I am thinking of getting some more of the early Brit Silvers.
At the moment we are just finishing packing the vehicles and the van for a 7-10 day fishing and R and R trip to Sharks Bay.
By the time I get back the 1937 set along with another 4 Maundy sets will be waiting for me at the post office :yahoo:
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: Goldseeker on March 08, 2016, 06:23:30 PM
I took hook, line and sinker as they say........
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Post by: trout on March 14, 2016, 07:41:04 PM
The 1937 Specimen/Proof set arrived while I was away fishing and I picked it up just now on my way home.
Very disappointed with it, It is full of cleaned circulated coins in most part and even the Maundy coins look bloody awful.
I will take some images tomorrow when I get my breath back.
Feeling a little buggered at the moment , 8 days flat out fishing and travelling has taken its toll.
However 3 Maundy sets have arrived as well and I rather like the look of these and will post images in the Maundy coin thread in due time.
The 1883 set looks to be the "Stand out" set of the three but the other two are not too shabby either :)
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: trout on March 14, 2016, 09:23:51 PM
Here are a few images of the supposed Specimen/Proof set.
Pretty upsetting when you end up with this sort of garbage :dash1:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/37_half_crown.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/37_6d.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/37_1s.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/37_1d.jpg)
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: r9453 on March 15, 2016, 05:24:05 AM
Where do you get that stuff? I assume its totally misrepresented as "Specimen/Proof set". Anyway, wherever you're going I would not go back there.
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: trout on March 15, 2016, 08:29:29 AM
QuoteI assume its totally misrepresented as "Specimen/Proof set".

Yes it is :cray:
Here is the listing.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1937-PROOF-COIN-SET-IN-ORIGINAL-CASE-INCLUDES-MAUNDY-MONEY-/222026587606?ssPageName=ADME%3AX%3ARRIRTB%3AAU%3A3160&nma=true&si=MCskicP0ePLJ7i7ltcHzZDtSFmQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: r9453 on March 15, 2016, 08:43:03 AM
Did it come with the box, has someone removed the original coins and replaced them?

Edit: I feel your pain, you have my condolences.
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: trout on March 15, 2016, 09:03:07 AM
Quote from: 'r9453' pid='85609' dateline='1457993583'Did it come with the box, has someone removed the original coins and replaced them?

Edit: I feel your pain, you have my condolences.

Yes they came in the original box.
Not even "Uncirculated" just "Junk" coins .
I would have been happy with a set of nice uncirculated coins but I certainly wouldn't have paid $500 for them like I did for these, Thankfully I may get my money back as I paid via PayPal .
I get "Stung" like this occasionally but it doesn't "Jade" me and I consider it all part of collecting ( albeit an unpleasant part) and going out of my comfort zone trying to source interesting coins is what I do on occasion.
I am a bit  disappointed  that I received these coins the way they are But I am more disappointed that I don't have a beautiful set of 1937 specimen coins to admire instead :(
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: r9453 on March 15, 2016, 11:17:58 AM
I hope you get your money back via PayPal. Meanwhile, onward and upward!
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: autocoupler on March 15, 2016, 11:33:00 AM
That is not a good result at all Mate. It's a shame to see people ripped off like this by sellers who are too clever for their own good, they rely on their 100% rating and a well written spiel (that doesn't match the pictured item) to get the buyer off guard. Unfortunately, from the photos you supplied, they do appear to be the ones in the listing. The two most obvious clues being the wear on the penny and the rim ding at M on the Half Crown. :angel:
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: runway on March 20, 2016, 09:37:21 PM
No good trout
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: trout on March 23, 2016, 08:10:29 PM
All is good I got my refund even after the seller tried to weasel out of it.
Thank God I paid using PayPal :yahoo:
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: Triggersmob on March 23, 2016, 11:49:36 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='85979' dateline='1458726029'All is good I got my refund even after the seller tried to weasel out of it.
Thank God I paid using PayPal :yahoo:

:good::good::good:
Title: RE: Where to next ??
Post by: autocoupler on March 24, 2016, 07:25:55 AM
That's really good to hear!!