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Title: Now at my new home - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal circa 1880
Post by: Unicorn on September 04, 2015, 05:34:15 PM
One for the collectors of Australian Exonumia

As mentioned in one of the other threads, the only other one of these I've seen was in Noble Numismatics - Australian Historical Medals Sale in 2009. It was described by them as very rare. The fact that it is not listed in Carlisle's Australian Commemorative Medals and Medalets from 1788 would add support to this.

Here's a link to the Noble item Noble Sale 91 Lot 1051 (http://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot?id=239630)

I've got the medal listed on Ebay ending next week. Here's a link to the ebay item.
Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union New South Wales Medal. Circa 1880 - Very Rare (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/252076524502?)

This medal has been in the family since the late 1800's and I'm only selling it to pay the bills which seem to pile up when you're on the DSP.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/wesmed1.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/wesmed2.jpg)

Some provenance .... it was my Great Great Grandfather's and was amongst my Great Grandfather's things. Here's a photo I got printed from a glass negative that was also amongst his things. My Nana is shown on the bottom left. They were a super serious Methodist family.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/ggrand.jpg)
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal
Post by: JeffH on September 04, 2015, 06:34:05 PM
They do look super serious (except the girl on the right does have the start of a smile and a twinkle in her eye).
The boy one the left is going to turn blue; holding his breath like that.

My, how the mores of portrait photography changed.
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal
Post by: robbiegal on September 04, 2015, 06:44:49 PM
what is great grandma reading?

hi again Uni
is this medallion in white metal
in the picture sit looks more like a copper or bronze
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal
Post by: Unicorn on September 04, 2015, 07:01:31 PM
The book is "In Time Of War" (the photo I have is A3) I can't quite make out the Author though so I'll have to do some more Googling. Nana was born in 1905 and she looks around 7 so perhaps around 1912?

Yes RG it's white metal, it's my bad pics that gives that colour ..... here's some others

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/medal2.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/medal1.jpg)
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal
Post by: robbiegal on September 04, 2015, 07:13:07 PM
that is much better
it looked like a bronze to me in the other photo
you then have the Nobles link - which is clearly a white metal medallion

maybe move those red back ground pics to the front of the pictures in the listing

good luck with your auction
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal
Post by: Unicorn on September 04, 2015, 07:14:54 PM
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='78762' dateline='1441357445'... the girl on the right does have the start of a smile and a twinkle in her eye ...
The boy on the left is going to turn blue; holding his breath like that.

:laugh2: ..... yes, he's rather tight lipped eh ...... and Auntie Hilda almost has a Mona Lisa smile.
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal
Post by: robbiegal on September 04, 2015, 07:15:31 PM
my father was raised Methodist and I have a certificate that he signed as a boy about abstaining from drink

he grew up to be a man that when the 4x factory in Brisbane went on strike he loaded up the ute with cartons of beer
the cartons were hidden everywhere in the house

after that he started making home brew
there just was no life without his precious beer!
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal
Post by: Unicorn on September 04, 2015, 07:24:00 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='78767' dateline='1441359787'that is much better

maybe move those red back ground pics to the front of the pictures in the listing

good luck with your auction

Doing it now ...... thanks RG!

Found it RG :yahoo:

In Time Of War ...... by J.F. Cobb (I can make out the J.F. C??? in my photo) .... the 1st Edition was apparently 1911.

A tale of Paris life during the siege and the rule of the Commune
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal circa 1880
Post by: Robster on September 05, 2015, 02:00:34 AM
I love the photo Uni.! I have a family album from a similar period, very serious business.! :angel:
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal circa 1880
Post by: purplepennyhunter on September 06, 2015, 07:42:40 AM
Sorry to read that you are parting with something that's been in the family for such a long time.
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal circa 1880
Post by: Unicorn on September 06, 2015, 08:50:53 AM
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='78829' dateline='1441384234'I love the photo Uni.!

Thanks Robster, I reckon it's great too. When I got the glass negatives back in the early 90's I didn't think there would be anyone who developed prints from them but I found a firm in Fyshwick (Canberra) at the time and they came out great. The great Aunties pictured never married and lived in the same house all their lives. There were several rooms which were locked when I was a kid and were pretty much time capsules.

Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='78883' dateline='1441491160'Sorry to read that you are parting with something that's been in the family for such a long time.

Yes it is a bit sad. I had to part with my Edison phonograph (cylinder version with a very large speaker) some time back during another tough period. I'm sure the great greats will understand.
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal circa 1880
Post by: trout on September 06, 2015, 09:02:58 AM
QuoteYes it is a bit sad. I had to part with my Edison phonograph (cylinder version with a very large speaker) some time back during another tough period. I'm sure the great greats will understand.

This is a Hobby and if you need to put food on the table then sacrifices have to be made.
You can console yourself that this piece will undoubtedly be going to a caring owner :good:
I wish you well with your auction Uni :yahoo:
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal circa 1880
Post by: Unicorn on September 06, 2015, 09:23:41 AM
Thanks Troutski!
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal circa 1880
Post by: Unicorn on September 24, 2015, 09:37:53 AM
No luck as yet so I've lowered the starting price.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/252101839480 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/252101839480)
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal circa 1880
Post by: ausjack on September 24, 2015, 02:36:21 PM
Good luck Uni, I hope it sells for you mate.
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal circa 1880
Post by: Unicorn on September 26, 2015, 10:38:45 AM
A huge thank you to PPH & Mark who have now become the new owners of this lovely medal.

The generousity and thoughtfulness of you both is truly amazing.
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal circa 1880
Post by: Pedro on September 26, 2015, 11:06:23 AM
Excellent - stays in the "family"!

PPH now has another birthday present?

Pedro
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal circa 1880
Post by: Nevol on September 26, 2015, 11:35:02 AM
Sounds like a win win situation. :yahoo::yahoo:
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal circa 1880
Post by: ausjack on September 26, 2015, 10:56:15 PM
:agreed: well done to both of you
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal circa 1880
Post by: markn on October 05, 2015, 12:09:18 PM
Medal arrived.  It's much larger than either of us expected. 38mm and 13.35g.

(http://www.mycoinalog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/wesleyan-medal-1880-band-of-hope.jpg)
Title: RE: For Sale - Very Rare Wesleyan Band Of Hope Union NSW Medal circa 1880
Post by: Unicorn on October 05, 2015, 12:20:34 PM
Fabulous photos Mark! Much, much, much better than mine!

I can't believe how ironic your post above is. I had just looked (like a minute ago) on the Australia Post site to see (on the off chance) if it was collected over the past couple of days (all AP outlets around here are closed on weekends). I knew it was there still after close of business Friday and thought it would be tomorrow before you got it, but something still made me look and I saw it was collected.

It obviously let me know. (Spooky).

btw: When I get a tick I'll send you and PP some provenance info.