This thread is not a discussion thread. It is not a slam thread. It is here to help Greg correct factual errors in the 2015 edition of his book.
SAS pnc in pnc section states it is ram issue...it is a PM issue. This dollar coin also appears in the RAM section for $1 coins.
Quote from: 'Bigfellani5' pid='78537' dateline='1441020774'This thread is not a discussion thread. It is not a slam thread. It is here to help Greg correct factual errors in the 2015 edition of his book.
SAS pnc in pnc section states it is ram issue...it is a PM issue. This dollar coin also appears in the RAM section for $1 coins.
Correct ... I will receive the 2015 Maccas tomorrow and have a browse ... and I'm in total agreement about not slamming Greg McDonald or his guide in any way :yahoo:
I presume that this thread is for errors found in the 22nd Edition of Greg's book?
22nd Edition, Page 213, top of page photos, 2013 Coronation picture is incorrect.
22nd Edition, Page 255, 1999Year Of Older persons, Retail Average "See Below"- Nothing below.
22nd Edition, Page 269, 2012 Remembrance PNC = Incorrect Picture of coin. Should be the red $2.00 coin.
22nd Edition, Page 272, 2013 Birth Of Prince George = A Limited Edition of this PNC was issues at the World Coin Expo held at Etihad Stadium, (date I can't recall but sometime in 2013). This issue was limited to 300 and 150 per day were made available. Each envelope is gold cancelled and individually numbered. See here: http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/2013_Issue_21A_LE_Front~0.jpg
22nd Edition, Page 273, 2013 Black Caviar Special Edition = Sentence of the description has been duplicated. QUOTE " The PNC is Large size.........and cancelled on 1 November" UNQUOTE. This quote is then duplicated.
22nd Edition, Page 275, 2014 The Great War - Aust & UK Issue PNC = Notes: QUOTE ..........limited to 10,000.....UNQUOTE, Should read "......limited to 2,500 individually numbered.......".
22nd Edition, Page 275, 2014 Remembrance Day PNC = Notes state QUOTE This PNC........11th month" UNQUOTE. In fact a dual coined PNC was issued showing the Red and green $2 coins together in a PNC that can be viewed here: http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/2014_Issue_13A_LE_Remebrance_Front.jpg
22nd Edition, Page 275, 2014 Merry Christmas = A Limited Edition of this PNC was issued, See here:
Front: http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/2014_Issue_14A_LE_Seasons_Greetings_Front~0.jpg
Back: http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10120/2014_Issue_14A_LE_Seasons_Greetings_Back~0.jpg
It has two foiled stamps with gold cancellation and individually numbered. Limited to 300 issues.
THIS COMMENT WAS EDITED ON 5 NOV 2015 TO FIX THE LINKS SHOWN/INDICATED.
Hi there Goldseeker,
Great post. You spent a lot of time on that and I really appreciate it. Some of these PNC's seem to pop up all over the place. I kind of knew I wasn't going to this right first time around but it should be spot on in the next edition.
By the way what do you all think of changed layout for the NCLT issues?
Do you like all the variations of type, metal, proof and unc all under the one heading?
Is it clearer to work out the mint marked coins?
Who likes the new column for UNC, NCLT, OFF METAL etc?
Any other suggestions or improvements.
Love the feedback. Thanks to everyone who has contributed
Cheers
Greg
Thanks for your kind comments Greg.
I didn't like the loyout when I first saw it but after a while it grows on you and I tend to like it now.
A lot of thought has gone into this section.
Well done.
If you need to use any of my scans that I have put in the Gallery then please use them Greg.
I do believe I have a few more overprinted PNC's that you haven't mentioned but I shall post them here for your perusal once I get a bit of time spare.
p171 2004 $1 hologram. Mentions this being in the mint sets and baby sets. A standard $1 appeared in mint sets and baby mint sets. Hologram only appeared in 2004 proof set
Not sure if this is an error or not... but on pg 60 for the information on McD 127a, i.e. the inverted A as V error, it says only 10 examples known. PCGS has graded 16 so far. I know at least one raw.
See http://www.pcgs.com/pop/valueview.aspx?s=506960
No doubt it's still very rare.
pp86 1920 dot above and below $0.50...........I am sure this is well out......should be more like $100 not 50c
Page 373 Sea Life Series missing Moray Eel
Issue 22nd Edition, Page 176, 1995 Waltzing Matilda Centenary, 1995b S Mobile MM, Royal Sydney Show Retail Value shown as $3.00, maybe a typo for $30.00.
22nd Edition, Page 213, Two Dollars, Miscellaneous issues.
Picture for Coronation $2.00 Coin at top line, to the right is incorrect, shows the Lest We Forget coin.
Year Date immediately Under the Remembrance Pictures should read 2012 (b & c) and not 2013
Page 255, PNC: Philatelic Numismatic Covers:1998 Bass & Flinders, Initial in yellow alongside picture of coin states issue price $3.95 whereas below where the four complete details for each PNC are shown Issue Price is now $5.95. Small but confusing error.
1999 Year Of Older Person; In the yellow states Retail Average: See Below. Sorry there isn't any "below" to be seen.
Page 259: SAS Folder: States: Cost $3.95. Should read $79.95
Page 268 PNC Incorrect Heading for Sir henry Lawson PNC. I am sure that he was not "2012 Olympic Team Mascot".
Page 269, 2012 Remembrance PNC: Incorrect picture of enclosed coin. Shown is the Scolloped coin instead of the round "C" coin.
Page 270, 2013 Centenary Of Canberra PNC: Duplicate of same entry on page 269.
Page 271: 2013 Australian Kangaroo: Yellow section indicates issue total is 28,2005. This is incorrect. The details "see below" are correct.
Page 273: 2013 AFL Premiers Hawthorn: Issue shown as 15,0001: Typo me thinks.
The following details of Mintage, (M) and issue price, (IP) have been taken from my collection of the actual PNC's concerned:
Page 261, Luna Year Of The Ox: Limited Edition PNC, Gold overprint for the Melbourne Stamp Show 2009: M = 300, IP = Unknown. Scan available if required.
Page 268, Australian Ballet: M = 15,000
Page 268, London Olympics 3 Coin set: M = 10,000
Page 269, AFL Premiers Sydney Swans: IP = $19.95
Page 270, Black Caviar: IP = $19.95
Page 271, Australia's First Banknote: M = 15,000
Page 271, Parliament House: M = 15,000
Page 273, AFL premiers Hawthorn: IP = $24.95
Page 273, Luna Year Of The Horse: M = 15,000
Page 273, Royal Christening: M = 14,000
Page 274, Centenary Of Red Cross: M = 10,000
Page 274, Banjo Patterson: M = 12,000
Page 275, Sydney/Emden Engagement: IP = $24.95
Page 275, The Great War, Aust/UK Issue: M = 12,000
Not Listed, The Great War, Limited Edition PNC: M = 2,500, IP = $34.95, Scan available if required.
Page 275, Merry Xmas: M = 9,700
Page 275 Merry Xmas, Limited Edition PNC with Foil Stamps, NOT LISTED: M = 300, IP = Not Known. Scans available if required.
Page 276, Luna Year Of The Goat: M = 15,000.
Page 276, Chinese New Year -Lion Dance: M = 8,888
The above are only small amendments but will assist in publishing accurate records.
Edition 22, Page 179, 2000 Olymphilex Stamp and Trade Fair; I am sure that there was no mobile Press involved in either the Sydney or Canberra event. The coins were specially endorsed with the words SYDNEY or CANBERRA on the side of the coins and then sold at the shows. The notes to these coins need to be amended to reflect this.
Page 178, HMAS Sydney VIP Folder: Your comments state "2,922 were struck". This is correct but I did send you a copy of an email that I received that stated "less than 200 are believed to be in existence". Your comments need to be amended to reflect this. (I am still chasing this one up with the RAM).
Page 179, 2000 Victoria Cross: You mention that "Gallery press, Mint Your Own". This is incorrect. None were minted on the Gallery Presses as all VC coins were issued in a four fold sleeved package. Entry need to be amended to reflect this. (NOTE: HMAS Sydney was the Visitor Gallery Press for that year).
I do apologise in advance if it appears that my wording that I put into these amendments appear to be stern or orders. I am simply trying to have corrected, errors in the latest book.
I think Greg should hire you as a proof reader Goldie. :angel:
Great work Mate and I am sure that he will appreciate your efforts :good:
Edition 22, Page 195, Centenary Of Australian Coinage: Mention is made of the Mobile Press being at the various shows for 2010. No mobile press was used at any of the shows this year and all the coins had the Capital Letters in a square, all Privy Marks except for the "C" Counterstamp at Canberra. The descriptions need to be amended to reflect this.
Quote from: 'trout' pid='82412' dateline='1449638214'I think Greg should hire you as a proof reader Goldie. :angel:
Great work Mate and I am sure that he will appreciate your efforts :good:
The only reason I am putting so much up is that I am preparing my collection for sale/disposal/downsizing and I have to have an accurate record of exactly what I have and the probable value so that I can have an idea for the placement reserve price.
I feel sure that there will be many more amendments to be done.
By the way, if anyone is checking up on my corrections to Greg and you find I have made a mistake, please advise me.
Page 172 gives 2012 circulation $1 mintage as 17,975,000. RAM says "No $1 coins were produced in 2012'. one dollar Mintage figures (http://www.ramint.gov.au/designs/ram-designs/1dollar.cfm)
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='82431' dateline='1449688138'Page 172 gives 2012 circulation $1 mintage as 17,975,000. RAM says "No $1 coins were produced in 2012'. one dollar Mintage figures (http://www.ramint.gov.au/designs/ram-designs/1dollar.cfm)
A bit late in responding to your above comment jeffh but you are incorrect.
The info stated on page 172 id correct as I have some of the coins in my UNC collection.
I have just completed some of my cataloguing of my collection using my coins and comparing them to what Greg has listed in his catalogue.
I am afraid that the $1 section of this current catalogue needs a great deal of amendments/corrections.
So I am wondering if Greg is reading this, would you prefer a PM list of corrections/amendments or put up here.
I prefer putting them up here.
Where did you get your UNC 2012 $1s from Goldie? Did you take them out of mint sets?
I haven't found any 2012 $1s in circulation and for a suggested mintage of that size that should not be possible.
Off the top of my head I don't think the RAM Annual Reports showed any 2012's produced.
Pedro
Quote from: 'Pedro' pid='84828' dateline='1456259843'Where did you get your UNC 2012 $1s from Goldie? Did you take them out of mint sets?
I haven't found any 2012 $1s in circulation and for a suggested mintage of that size that should not be possible.
Off the top of my head I don't think the RAM Annual Reports showed any 2012's produced.
Pedro
Have a look at Greg Macdonald's catalogue. Plenty of that years coins minted but not necessarily circulating currency. All of them being commemorative issues and such and no circulating currency.
In regards to my Unc coin, yes, I buy two Mint sets every year and pull one apart for my unc albums.
Now if there is a different coin between the Mint Set and Baby Set then two sets of baby sets are purchased and one is pulled apart. Just as I had to do with this years issue.
2012 MOR $1 were common I haven't seen many recently though
Quote from: 'runway' pid='84848' dateline='1456318055'2012 MOR $1 were common I haven't seen many recently though
OK, I'll bite .....
I think the only time 2012 MOR were common was if you were controlling the press when they produced the coins for the 57,000 odd 2012 mint set MOR coins. Then there would have been half a ton or so of them.
Now, apart from the odd ransacked Mint Sets, there are none in circulation.
The 17.9 million Jeff refers to below in Greg's book obviously refers to the 2011 mintage, rather than the 2012 (when there were 17.9m produced).
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='82431' dateline='1449688138'Page 172 gives 2012 circulation $1 mintage as 17,975,000. RAM says "No $1 coins were produced in 2012'. one dollar Mintage figures (http://www.ramint.gov.au/designs/ram-designs/1dollar.cfm)
Runway, wherever you got the "common" idea from is obviously erroneous.
To quote Zebedee .......
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/yawn.jpg)
Just a few little pick ups
page 160 2003 volunteers 50 cent off metal gold coin part of 6 coin set - mintage 620- don't think they were made
and just 4 quick values that are out in my opinion
page 72 - 1911s seems cheap
page 161 -2006 gymnastics 50 cent is cheap at $8
page 163 2011 triple 000 coin cheap at $10
page 166 2014 aiatsis coloured coin cheap at $15
I don't know if the error has been corrected from the 2014 edition as I don't have the 2015 sorry but in the 2014 on page 494 it has 07 first and last prefixes for the $5 in stead of the 2012
(http://i66.tinypic.com/rwumhy.jpg)
Sorry apparently this has been corrected in the 2015 edition so all good :)
Greg,
22nd Edition page 164 - bottom lines
2012 Joint Issue Gold coins - you have the silver retail price instead of the gold price.
I have only seen one set sold so far and that went for just over $12,000, (but plenty of single coin sales from Canada and the UK, as they produced more than the 375 coins that the RAMINT produced and had single coin releases).
Cheers
Peter (notcb)
Greg,
At page 435 the values for the 1976 Knight/Wheeler $5 Gothic Typeface (Centre thread) (206a) general prefixes look high.
UNC at $900 - additional zero typo? (eg in comparison to other 1976 Knight/Wheeler varieties and first & last prefix for this category)
aUNC at $545 - looks too high as well.
Pedro
Greg is not in a position to reply atm
Quote from: 'runway' pid='88475' dateline='1462884220'Greg is not in a position to reply atm
He is in some kind of yoga position I assume?
I don't know whether Greg's still on this forum, but just in case he is, here are the ones that no one's mentioned yet.
On page 133, it says that 5c coins dated 1991-1994 with large SD are rare. This is not what I've found while noodling. The large SD makes up about 60% of circulating 5c coins dated 1991, 40% of those dated 1992, 10% of those dated 1993, and 2% of those dated 1994. In none of these cases would I consider the large SD to be rare, although in the latter two, it could be considered scarce.
On page 134, it accurately documents all the different 5c reverses up to 2008/2009, but remains strangely silent about what happens after that. Based on my own noodling, I've discovered that two different reverse dies were used in 2009, 2010 and 2014, with the older pre-2007 die making up 10%, 20% and 10% of the total mintages, respectively.
On page 136, it says that 5c, 10c and $2 coins have never been used for commemorative issues. This is clearly false nowadays.
On pages 136-141, the text is all in bold for no obvious reason.
On page 137, the footnote discussing the two different obverse varieties for the circulating 1999 10c seems to have become attached to the 1998 off-metal release instead. I think further explanation is needed.
On page 140, instead of leaving readers in the dark about what happened to the circulating 1985 20c, there should be a footnote like with the 1983, 1984, 1988 and 1993 releases. This would save us from having to keep bringing it up on forums such as this.
On page 152, about halfway down the list, the date for the 2012 off-metal gold 50c strike is listed as "201".
On pages 155-156, there's no information about the value of an incuse flag 50c in each grade. This is an important variety, so we shouldn't be left in the dark about this.
On page 172, for the high relief 2015 $1 coin, the mint mark is listed as a square root sign, but it isn't exactly clear to me how a square root sign looks like an Ampelmann.
On page 189, the circulation release for the Centenary of the Aged Pension $1 coin is mistakenly listed as NCLT.
On page 193, the mintage for the circulating 2014 ANZAC $1 coin is incorrect.
On page 211, the 1991 $2 coin is listed as being a circulating release, when it should be listed as NCLT.
On page 212, footnote (d) is missing. I'm also a bit confused as to what the difference is between footnotes (a) and (c).
On page 213, the mintage for the circulating 2012 poppy $2 coin is listed as "5,799.000" instead of "5,799,000". Also, the 2013 coronation coin is listed as being NCLT with a mintage of 2 million, when this is actually a circulating release with a mintage of 995,000.
On page 457, it says that $100 test notes with first or last prefixes (i.e. AN96 or CS96) are worth $95 in fine condition. This doesn't seem right, because the bank would clearly redeem them for $100.
Has anyone heard when the next edition will be printed ??
Quote from: 'trout' pid='99213' dateline='1475155228'Has anyone heard when the next edition will be printed ??
just before xmas is the rumour