Hey Folks, As I have indicated a few times before, I am trying to complete my Sixpences set. I wanted to get some options from you all about the rarest and hardest coins to get to complete my set. Looking at bluesheet for rough values for the coins in higher grades,some of the known rarer coins have lesser values compared to others .. Ie 1922 in MS65 has a higher value compared to 1918 etc.
What coins do you think are harder to get ? Any comments will be very much appreciated! :wavemulticolor:
Not an area I'm too familiar with but have noticed as no doubt you have the 1935 mintage was less than others. Maybe this is one for later on?
Thanks autocoupler, yes 1935 is a very hard to get in high grade. However it seems 1935 has more coins in high grade than some of the other earlier dates.. may be due to low mintage people put some away ?
Quote from: 'ausproofs' pid='78150' dateline='1440335303'Thanks autocoupler, yes 1935 is a very hard to get in high grade. However it seems 1935 has more coins in high grade than some of the other earlier dates.. may be due to low mintage people put some away ?
Would people back then even know if that years mintage was low? After a few years they may notice not many '35s in their change and decide to keep an eye out for a nice one, but by then it is too late and any they find are less than Unc.
Wouldn't 1915 be th hardest Sixpence technically? :angel:
Quote from: 'oh my florin' pid='78202' dateline='1440407980'Wouldn't 1915 be th hardest Sixpence technically? :angel:
That's just silly OMF
Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='78203' dateline='1440408202'Quote from: 'oh my florin' pid='78202' dateline='1440407980'Wouldn't 1915 be th hardest Sixpence technically? :angel:
That's just silly OMF
Maybe not. Who knows if any pattern 1915 sixpences were struck and are in the forgotten bottom drawer of the Royal Mint archives or the estate of some Heaton Mint employee. Same as I'm sure most here would have dismissed the possibility of a 1927 Canberra shilling until one popped up.
The 1918-M is relatively common in top grades, there was a roll of them that was broken up by Sherwood in the 90s.
1922s are reasonably common in lower mint state grades too, they used to be often undergraded on the raw coin market due to their typically soft strike which accounts for their reputation as a scarce date. In MS65 they're very rare however, primarily due to their typically poor strike quality.
1911, 1914, 1916-M, 1920-M, 1923, 1924, 1925 are the hardest dates in top grades with the last very underrated.
(http://img.numismatics.com.au/3556/0/16777215/800x800.jpg)
(http://img.numismatics.com.au/3556/1/16777215/800x800.jpg)
Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='78203' dateline='1440408202'Quote from: 'oh my florin' pid='78202' dateline='1440407980'Wouldn't 1915 be th hardest Sixpence technically? :angel:
That's just silly OMF
I know I still try though :P
Quote from: 'wwwww' pid='78232' dateline='1440479067'The 1918-M is relatively common in top grades, there was a roll of them that was broken up by Sherwood in the 90s.
1922s are reasonably common in lower mint state grades too, they used to be often undergraded on the raw coin market due to their typically soft strike which accounts for their reputation as a scarce date. In MS65 they're very rare however, primarily due to their typically poor strike quality.
1911, 1914, 1916-M, 1920-M, 1923, 1924, 1925 are the hardest dates in top grades with the last very underrated.
(http://img.numismatics.com.au/3556/0/16777215/800x800.jpg)
(http://img.numismatics.com.au/3556/1/16777215/800x800.jpg)
Thank you Walter, as always very informative .....:yahoo:
It seems I have a big challenge in my hands to get some good coins to compete the set.
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='78223' dateline='1440466146'Maybe not. Who knows if any pattern 1915 sixpences were struck and are in the forgotten bottom drawer of the Royal Mint archives or the estate of some Heaton Mint employee. Same as I'm sure most here would have dismissed the possibility of a 1927 Canberra shilling until one popped up.
When? Is it related to the obverse only strike of the Canberra florin portrait mentioned in old Renniks books?
I shouldn't have read this thread. Made me realise how many holes I have in my collection of Sixpences. :(
Actually, I just went and checked the book and most of the ones I thought I needed are not minted, I only need 1943D. :)
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='78424' dateline='1440809888'I shouldn't have read this thread. Made me realise how many holes I have in my collection of Sixpences. :(
Actually, I just went and checked the book and most of the ones I thought I needed are not minted, I only need 1943D. :)
:taunt::taunt::acute::acute:
Moral of the story is do not trust OMF..
Good one... 1943 D is not that hard to find... so you have done well.
Quote from: 'ausproofs' pid='78427' dateline='1440810512'Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='78424' dateline='1440809888'I shouldn't have read this thread. Made me realise how many holes I have in my collection of Sixpences. :(
Actually, I just went and checked the book and most of the ones I thought I needed are not minted, I only need 1943D. :)
:taunt::taunt::acute::acute:
Moral of the story is do not trust OMF..
Good one... 1943 D is not that hard to find... so you have done well.
Haha more so if OMF is in a joking mood :P
I find 1934 to be extremely hard to come by in top grades...I don't remember seeing one above MS 64 in the last 2-3 years... I also think 1952 is bit over rated ...
Quote from: 'ausproofs' pid='78476' dateline='1440890963'I find 1934 to be extremely hard to come by in top grades...I don't remember seeing one above MS 64 in the last 2-3 years... I also think 1952 is bit over rated ...
I would say a large proportion of the gem 3d and 6d coins have already been graded by either NGC or PCGS that is why they are super hard to find at the moment.
I also imagine that there are many stunning coins just sitting quietly in albums that are unknown to us until they eventually come on to the market.
The 3d and florins seem to be the most popular of the pre decimal silvers that are collected and actively sought .
The 6d and Shillings seem to be the "Poor Rellies"
Quote from: 'trout' pid='78477' dateline='1440891599'Quote from: 'ausproofs' pid='78476' dateline='1440890963'I find 1934 to be extremely hard to come by in top grades...I don't remember seeing one above MS 64 in the last 2-3 years... I also think 1952 is bit over rated ...
I would say a large proportion of the gem 3d and 6d coins have already been graded by either NGC or PCGS that is why they are super hard to find at the moment.
I also imagine that there are many stunning coins just sitting quietly in albums that are unknown to us until they eventually come on to the market.
The 3d and florins seem to be the most popular of the pre decimal silvers that are collected and actively sought .
The 6d and Shillings seem to be the "Poor Rellies"
I agree mate, I think until someone is ready to pull out serious $$$'s, finding some of the earlier 6D's will be very hard... Sometimes all the fun in collecting is finding the correct coin... :angel: