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Title: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on July 25, 2015, 12:13:03 PM
I shouldn't have called into lifeline today but I did and walked out with this piece.Haven't restored anything since I started on the coins about 5 years ago but this is a nice Art Deco piece from about the 1920's in solid silky oak that should polish up quite nicely


(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/20150725_122559-1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/20150725_122531-1.jpg)
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Robster on July 25, 2015, 12:18:57 PM
Love old furniture, will follow your progress with interest.!
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Unicorn on July 25, 2015, 12:27:23 PM
Lovely glasswork Stevo!
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on July 25, 2015, 12:29:59 PM
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='76245' dateline='1437793043'Lovely glasswork Stevo!

Yes it's nice but one piece needs of glass replacing and the leadwork needs tightening up but it's pretty much original and untouched
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: ausjack on July 25, 2015, 12:41:49 PM
Good stuff Stevo and should come up a real treat so I too will be keen to see progress reports :good:
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Coiny Chris on July 25, 2015, 01:31:36 PM
Hello,

Glass is glass. You have all the handles, keys and trim bits. It should turn out nicely, not like the plastic coated chip-board rubbish made these days.
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on July 25, 2015, 02:18:47 PM
Did the draw to see how it might look finished

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/drawer.jpg)
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Robster on July 25, 2015, 03:08:25 PM
Super.!!
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: robbiegal on July 25, 2015, 04:26:41 PM
came up a treat
I have an old 1940 ish clothes cupboard that was in my daughter's room - still has the mirror

is the broken glass the ale colours piece?

ps - are the glass pieces painted?

ps glass isn't glass
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on July 25, 2015, 04:38:04 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='76270' dateline='1437807401'came up a treat
I have an old 1940 ish clothes cupboard that was in my daughter's room - still has the mirror

is the broken glass the ale colours piece?

ps - are the glass pieces painted?

ps glass isn't glass

Yes Robbie the broken piece is ale coloured and the silver pieces are mirrored and will have to replace the broken piece.It's only 122 cm tall and 32cm deep so shouldn't be to difficult to find a spot for it
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: robbiegal on July 25, 2015, 04:54:00 PM
find yourself a good local lead-lighter unless you do it yourself
the ale piece looks like cathedral glass but I cant quite tell
sometimes they get a hold of the vintage glass from demolitions etc

the Italians make nice glass if you get new glass - skip the Chinese glass it will shatter within a week
it should be window glass quality

the lead will be quite brittle by now

are the handles bone inserts?

it is going to look smashing

the ale could maybe be repaired but it would need another strip of H lead - maybe if it was set just a bit higher than the two other horizontal pieces (the yellowed cream pieces) - might offset nicely to match?
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on July 25, 2015, 05:23:56 PM
We have a guy in town who specialises in leadlight repairs so will see
if he can replace the broken glass and straighten out the lead as I think it's still in good condition.Your idea about putting some lead in
the spot where the crack is might be a fall back measure but I hope he can replace the glass like for like

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/glass.jpg)
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: robbiegal on July 25, 2015, 06:53:49 PM
oh yeah that amber piece is Cathedral glass
very strong
you may be able to get vintage for vintage (or antique)

I forget what the kitchen coloured one is but it is very much like depression uranium  glass isn't it?

did you fiddle with those solders there ?
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: ausjack on July 25, 2015, 07:03:31 PM
Gee it should come up a treat lookin at the draw Stevo :good:
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on July 25, 2015, 07:11:17 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='76289' dateline='1437816229'oh yeah that amber piece is Cathedral glass
very strong
you may be able to get vintage for vintage (or antique)

I forget what the kitchen coloured one is but it is very much like depression uranium  glass isn't it?

did you fiddle with those solders there ?

No fiddling here RG.Will try to keep it as original as possible
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: robbiegal on July 25, 2015, 08:07:29 PM
Well they have cleaned up Nicey and look quite smooth. May have been reinforced some time back.
I used to be a leadlighter in a past life
Have fun!!!
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on July 25, 2015, 08:12:07 PM
They were probably touched up years ago but now need a bit
of TLC
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: ausjack on July 25, 2015, 08:40:24 PM
Wish someone would touch me up :blink: sorry I wanna be good :laugh2:
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: robbiegal on July 25, 2015, 09:45:10 PM
gee AJ - my soldering days have been long gone
but I could probably help ... do you prefer a lead soldering iron or a silver solder iron ... ha ha

the old ones I used to use were
hot or hotter ... not much choice in the hot part ha ha

that would get ya jumping boyo'  ha ha again!!
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: ausjack on July 25, 2015, 09:54:30 PM
Gee at this stage any would do RG..got to be better than a poke in the eye with a hot stick :laugh2: Gee there's some good sports here, love you lot :give_heart:
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Nevol on July 26, 2015, 07:29:29 AM
A little off-topic, but still relevant.

When the hail storm hit here last Nov, several pieces of glass in our windows were broken, some of which were small portions of lead light, but none of the lead looks like lead.  It's all very squarish, black and geometrical looking, I guess that matches the geometrical style of the lead light.

The repairer removed the entire sections of glass from the windows and took them away for repairs, and temporarily replaced them with clear glass.  He returned them several weeks later.
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: robbiegal on July 26, 2015, 08:20:06 AM
yeah I am not entirely up on more modern styles, probably plastic resins products by now
but the days of the H shaped lead - where you slide the glass into to sleeve may be gone
a lot of glass work now has staining and the 'lead' is actually ornamental sitting on the top of the glass

I was stopped from doing it by my boss when I got pregnant due to the dangers of working with the lead solder fumes
back then we didn't even wear masks

just found this on wikkie
Artificial leadlight[edit]

"A commercially produced product, often referred to as "stained glass" or "leadlight", is made of single sheets of glass with self-adhesive lead placed on both sides to replicate lead cames, and either a film or stain placed on the surface to replicate coloured glass. This product has wide domestic application and may be mistaken for genuine stained glass or leadlight. Another method now available is the use of coloured resins that are floated onto the glass, with the different colours divided by a line of resin that emulates the lead came which is used in traditional pieces."
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on July 26, 2015, 01:05:03 PM
Progress report
Have sanded off the old varnish on the carcass and restained the exterior to even out the colour and done the first coat of varnish.
Looking good so far

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/carcass2.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/carcass1.jpg)
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: ausjack on July 26, 2015, 01:40:36 PM
coming up a treat Stevo, love the look of timer and especially a nice grain
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Pedro on July 26, 2015, 05:54:57 PM
Gee you don't muck around Stevo - looking good.

Pedro
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on July 26, 2015, 06:39:52 PM
Quote from: 'Pedro' pid='76398' dateline='1437899097'Gee you don't muck around Stevo - looking good.

Pedro

A lot of sanding to do so the sooner I get stuck into it the sooner I
can put it back together and find a slot for it inside
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: trout on July 26, 2015, 07:31:53 PM
That ratty old piece of furniture you picked up  is starting to look amazing.
Love what you are achieving here Mate :good:
By the time you have finished this will look like the craftsman that made this in the first place wanted it to look like :yahoo:
You don't get wood like this or the level of craftsmanship in furniture the days.
This will end up a lovely piece .
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on July 26, 2015, 08:06:12 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='76405' dateline='1437904913'That ratty old piece of furniture you picked up  is starting to look amazing.
Love what you are achieving here Mate :good:
By the time you have finished this will look like the craftsman that made this in the first place wanted it to look like :yahoo:
You don't get wood like this or the level of craftsmanship in furniture the days.
This will end up a lovely piece .

Thanks mate this is a miniature cabinet with a fold down writing desk on one side and solid silky oak and luckily it's a very straight unit and all the joints are still tight and yes definitely better than chipboard
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: dreamcatcher on July 27, 2015, 12:53:48 PM
That is some lovely silky oak you are handling there. Looking forward to seeing it all done!
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on July 27, 2015, 01:18:04 PM
Took the leadlight door to the only leadlighter in town (who I previously swore to the other half that I wouldn't go back
to after the last debacle) to sort out.Not much to do to fix it up so I hope he's improved in the last five years since I was
there last.The door will be ready tomorrow so might get this thing finished by or during the weekend coming up
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Nevol on July 27, 2015, 05:57:55 PM
Silky Oak is my favourite type of timber.  It's just lovely.
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on July 29, 2015, 07:31:06 AM
Had the leadlight door repaired yesterday and so I stayed up late and sanded it,restained and did the first coat of
varnish.Also finished the back panel at the top of the cabinet and the grain is now looking very nice now that the original
old varnish has been stripped back

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/1b_28129.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/1b_28229.jpg)
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Nevol on July 29, 2015, 07:35:46 AM
It's great to see an old piece of lovely furniture being bought back to life.  You're doing a wonderful job of it and it will be absolutely beautiful when finished. :good:
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: trout on July 29, 2015, 07:39:08 AM
WOW
The grain on that piece is absolutely Amazing :yahoo:
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Unicorn on July 29, 2015, 07:59:20 AM
Great work Stevo! :good:
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Robster on July 29, 2015, 08:06:06 AM
You don't waste any time, superb results.! :yahoo:
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: autocoupler on July 29, 2015, 10:56:50 AM
It does look great. Love it.
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: robbiegal on July 29, 2015, 04:46:29 PM
cool
so you went for the repair to retain the original glass
looks good too

ps wouldn't mind a close up of his solders  

wood work looks fab as well
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on July 29, 2015, 06:08:10 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='76537' dateline='1438154189'cool
so you went for the repair to retain the original glass
looks good too

ps wouldn't mind a close up of his solders  

wood work looks fab as well

There you go RG
 
  (http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/20150729_182223.jpg)
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: robbiegal on July 29, 2015, 07:53:34 PM
fanks

ahh memories ....
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: ausjack on July 29, 2015, 09:19:44 PM
Lookin good Stevo :good: how are you at sanding back metal handrailings :beg:
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on July 29, 2015, 10:00:01 PM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='76562' dateline='1438170584'Lookin good Stevo :good: how are you at sanding back metal handrailings :beg:

Is that a job offer AJ ? If I was close I would give you a hand mate but I had a day off sanding today.There's never enough hours in the day and I'm sure I could get more done if I didn't have to sleep for 6 hours per day
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: dreamcatcher on July 29, 2015, 10:14:39 PM
The top of that piece has some of the best silky oak quarter cut grain I've seen! I've seen a lot of silky oak.
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: ausjack on July 29, 2015, 10:36:32 PM
Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='76574' dateline='1438173001'
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='76562' dateline='1438170584'Lookin good Stevo :good: how are you at sanding back metal handrailings :beg:

Is that a job offer AJ ? If I was close I would give you a hand mate but I had a day off sanding today.There's never enough hours in the day and I'm sure I could get more done if I didn't have to sleep for 6 hours per day

Yes it is Stevo but all good mate I'm slowly but surely getting it done :heat:

gee I wish I could sleep for 6 hours, I might even KILL for that :winkextra:
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Unicorn on July 30, 2015, 07:38:28 AM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='76578' dateline='1438175192'gee I wish I could sleep for 6 hours, I might even KILL for that :winkextra:

I'm the opposite AJ, I used to be able to run on about 6 hours a day, now with the meds I take I'm gone zzzzz for at least 8-10. (They drop you like the proverbial).
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Robster on July 30, 2015, 07:43:23 AM
Mine sleep pattern these days seems to be spread thru 24 hours which is fine in the warmer months but hell during the cold weather.!:dodgy:
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: robbiegal on July 30, 2015, 07:31:29 PM
I have been taking steroids a fair bit since this problem (i.e. major) at the dentist
and it's weird when I am taking them
I can't really figure out if I am actually sleeping - I seem to be in bed snoozing but my brain doesn't seem to have switched off

almost a distorted reality

can't quite explain it
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: ausjack on July 30, 2015, 08:25:03 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='76611' dateline='1438250489'I have been taking steroids a fair bit since this problem (i.e. major) at the dentist
and it's weird when I am taking them
I can't really figure out if I am actually sleeping - I seem to be in bed snoozing but my brain doesn't seem to have switched off

almost a distorted reality

can't quite explain it

Bet ya looking all buff after being on the roids RG :D so no I don't wanna :aggressive: :laugh2: but I here you all as I have and still go through all these things :(

up all hours, can't sleep and when I do it's strange to say the least and then on the odd occasion because I go so long I crash and burn for a day, very hard to explain what happens and waking up in cold sweats is no good.
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on July 30, 2015, 09:12:02 PM
Another door sanded ,restained and first coat of varnish applied.Looks like the original maker
was keen on quarter cut timber

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/door_28640x58129.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/door2.jpg)
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: ausjack on July 30, 2015, 09:15:09 PM
:drooling: now that's just beautiful Stevo and doing a superb job mate :good:
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Robster on July 31, 2015, 08:32:30 AM
Super.!
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: robbiegal on July 31, 2015, 11:20:43 AM
What is quarter cut timber?
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on July 31, 2015, 12:22:03 PM
Quartercut means that it's cut on the angle that brings out the best features of the grain such as these two
examples.Usually the best furniture has quartercut timber because it takes a bit more effort

   Not quartercut
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/not_quartercut.jpeg)

    Quartercut
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/quarter_cut.jpg)
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: robbiegal on July 31, 2015, 07:21:53 PM
oh fanks for that
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on August 02, 2015, 09:53:00 AM
All done.The finish is a bit blotchy but it's not easy to even out the old stain underneath unless you sand it
to death and I didn't want to stuff about with it too much.I think it looks better than it was before so I'm happy

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/cabinet1_28398x50029.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/cabinet3_28500x37029.jpg)
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Nevol on August 02, 2015, 10:13:14 AM
Great job!  You now have a lovely piece of old furniture that many people would be happy to own. :yahoo:
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Pedro on August 02, 2015, 11:15:29 AM
Came up a treat Stevo - well done!

Pedro
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Robster on August 02, 2015, 11:16:09 AM
Nice revival of an old beauty.!
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: ausjack on August 02, 2015, 12:36:04 PM
Come up really nice Stevo, well done mate :good:
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: autocoupler on August 02, 2015, 01:37:30 PM
Really nice job. It brings back memories of stuff my parents had.
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on August 02, 2015, 01:47:27 PM
Thanks for the encouragement everyone.If the house wasn't full of furniture
before it certainly is now
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: robbiegal on August 02, 2015, 08:41:48 PM
noice
will you varnish the inside panels, boards etc as well?

a job very well done and a piece of material history now stays with the world today

would probably make a perfect little coin sorting bureau
.... at my place .. can pm the address ha ha
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on August 02, 2015, 09:06:31 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='76885' dateline='1438513908'noice
will you varnish the inside panels, boards etc as well?

a job very well done and a piece of material history now stays with the world today

would probably make a perfect little coin sorting bureau
.... at my place .. can pm the address ha ha

Will leave the inside as original because it hasn't seen much wear and tear compared to a lot of unrestored pieces aged 90 years or more and the right hand side was never varnished so will leave as is.Yes Robbie it would make a nice coin sorting bureau but the Mrs has already claimed it and loaded it up with glassware on one side so it didn't take long to work out what to do with it
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: serial on August 02, 2015, 09:54:03 PM
Looks good mate! I think old restored furniture is so much better than new IKEA type crap
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on August 02, 2015, 10:18:01 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='76894' dateline='1438518243'Looks good mate! I think old restored furniture is so much better than new IKEA type crap

Thanks it will probably outlive me now
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: robbiegal on August 03, 2015, 04:20:21 PM
oh golly
what a wonderful husband ... doing all that hard work for Mrs S
it will look really sweet with glass ware in it too

job well done
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: JeffH on August 03, 2015, 05:58:31 PM
Some of that cheerful, pink or green 'depression' glassware would set it off nicely.
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: stevo1962 on August 03, 2015, 06:09:01 PM
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='76945' dateline='1438590511'Some of that cheerful, pink or green 'depression' glassware would set it off nicely.

Yeah some of that Jeff and some other odds and ends


(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/20150803_182505.jpg)
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: ausjack on August 03, 2015, 06:39:20 PM
WOW I think I'm having flashbacks :blink: Very nice on all accounts Stevo :good:

The only things that make it look modern are the tiles ;)
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Unicorn on August 03, 2015, 06:52:07 PM
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='76945' dateline='1438590511'Some of that cheerful, pink or green 'depression' glassware would set it off nicely.

Depression glass ........ is that what Robster will have when all the rum is gone?
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: ausjack on August 03, 2015, 07:00:09 PM
:laugh2: no comment as I have to pick myself up off the floor :laugh2: :laugh2:
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: Robster on August 03, 2015, 07:27:54 PM
The only 'depression' glass is an empty one. :angel:
Title: RE: Furniture Restoration
Post by: robbiegal on August 03, 2015, 08:12:03 PM
so is this an old booze cabinet?

the fold down panel being the pouring/mixing plate?

looks great with the glassware