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Non Numismatic Discussion => Chin Wag => Topic started by: keldaw on December 24, 2012, 09:54:12 AM

Title: carved coins
Post by: keldaw on December 24, 2012, 09:54:12 AM
[attachment=674][attachment=675][attachment=676][attachment=677][attachment=678] hi all , away from normal coin collecting , let me show you some of my coins that i have collected , just because i like them and i think they would take a lot of work ..
i have all the equipment and have tryed but with only little success ..

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Title: RE: carved coins
Post by: Robster on December 24, 2012, 09:59:25 AM
Fascinating part of the coin scene, you would definitely need the patience of Job.! Makes you appreciate the skills involved.!
Title: RE: carved coins
Post by: keldaw on December 24, 2012, 10:04:08 AM
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Title: RE: carved coins
Post by: purplepennyhunter on December 24, 2012, 10:50:40 AM
Umm, isn't that illegal?
Title: RE: carved coins
Post by: gnome on December 24, 2012, 11:36:41 AM
Like that 20
Title: RE: carved coins
Post by: keldaw on December 24, 2012, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='4949' dateline='1356308440'Umm, isn't that illegal?


 sorry pph , i am going by this .. i  receive this with every coin i buy.

   ,, kel ,,[attachment=688]

am still waiting on another 5 coins .
if need be , one of my mules would cover cost for me ..
  good swap i think ..

 total cost including post .
 almost $ 500.00 ..   ,, kel ,,
Title: RE: carved coins
Post by: Goldseeker on December 25, 2012, 10:56:07 AM
How many MULES do you have?
Title: RE: carved coins
Post by: keldaw on December 25, 2012, 06:41:07 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='4999' dateline='1356395167'How many MULES do you have?

  have 5 now bruce ,    ,, kel ,,
Title: RE: carved coins
Post by: Goldseeker on December 25, 2012, 10:53:29 PM
I am about to downsize my stable re these Mules.

I will be putting at least 18 onto ebay over the next twelve months.

I shall be keeping the remaining 10.
Title: RE: carved coins
Post by: keldaw on December 26, 2012, 09:06:20 AM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='5021' dateline='1356438209'I am about to downsize my stable re these Mules.

I will be putting at least 18 onto ebay over the next twelve months.

I shall be keeping the remaining 10.
bruce , when i read you were going on a world cruise in 2014, i almost said  
 ( what , are you going to sell some of your mules bruce ?? ) ,but i thought it would sound a bit cheeky so i didnot say it ,.. looks like it would have been ok to say it , now i have read your last post.. ..       ,, kel ,,:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo: if we do good in lotto , can me and dawn come too with you and jane .????
just kidding , we dont have a passport any more ,,.. ,, kel ,,

Quote from: 'gnome' pid='4950' dateline='1356311201'Like that 20

 gnome ,
you like my 20 ? i like your 20  (or old time 24p ,) in your heading , near your name , so i could swap you , if you really wanted to ..
   ha ha ha ha ..    ,, kel ,,
Title: RE: carved coins
Post by: Sapyx on December 26, 2012, 01:15:09 PM
Quote from: 'keldaw' pid='4951' dateline='1356313272'
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='4949' dateline='1356308440'Umm, isn't that illegal?

 sorry pph , i am going by this .. i  receive this with every coin i buy.

   ,, kel ,,

Sorry, kel, but it is, technically, illegal in Australia to mutilate current (i.e. decimal) Australian coins in any way, unless you have a permit to do so. And I can't imagine a jeweller obtaining a permit. Section 16 of the Crimes (Currency) Act 1981: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ca1981181/s16.html

Sections 17 and 18 of the Act prohibit their sale and their possession for sale. It is not, however, illegal to import them or to simply own pre-mutilated coins with no intention to on-sell them.

It is, of course, perfectly legal to mutilate Australian coins overseas. Did you import these coins from overseas? If so, then you're in the clear.
Title: RE: carved coins
Post by: keldaw on December 26, 2012, 03:33:21 PM
sorry sapyx , for the missunderstanding , but i have never said i was selling them , i buy them only because i like them ..
 please type ANDY JENKINS in google , he is in silverton nsw , 26 kms outside of broken hill nsw and he has hundreds of them for sale ,he has a shop called the tin shed and he has bus loads of people
{,, tourist,,} that call in and buy from him ,. he will even do a sovereign for you if you supply the coin .. i bought a silver dollar ,coated in gold off him for my wife and she still wears it around her neck , only the gold coating did not last very long and now the coin and chain have turned to silver colour ..
the rest of the coins were bought from overseas in usa and posted over to me , i am still waiting for another 5 to arrive here from usa ..
 go to bongo beads by etsy on google and you will see hundreds of them to , from all over the world for sale . most of mine are from USA QUARTER DOLLARS ,.. BUT THEY WILL DO ANY COIN YOU SEND THEM .. this is what comes with every coin you buy from them .and if you ask andy jenkins , he will show his letter from the aust gov allowing him to carve them,. the only coin he will not do is the aust 1988 dollar coin and i can understand that .. i hope this has explained to you how i think about carved coins ,,. cheers  ,, kel ,,

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 andy will also do florins for about $ 155.00 silver and $ 165.00 gold
                         shillings , sixpences ,  or any coin you want carved

 any ones that he cant get , he will carve for you if you supply him with the coin ..

  i dont think i can add any more info for anybody but his site is worth going to and having a look around ,. he shows the coins and also the prices on his site ..   good luck ..                   ,, kel ,,

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another overseas shop i buy from .
there are many different shapes and sizes available from sid .

 ,, kel ,,[attachment=709][attachment=708][attachment=707][attachment=706]
Title: RE: carved coins
Post by: Goldseeker on December 26, 2012, 07:28:13 PM
Had you poster your reply earlier, I wouldn't have minded.   To decision to start the selling my excess Mules and Upsets was taken weeks ago well before we decided to book the cruise.  

I currently have a Mule and Upset on ebay at present.   The Mule is going through the roof.
Title: RE: carved coins
Post by: keldaw on December 26, 2012, 07:37:41 PM
hi SAPYX , thanks for that info and link that you passed on to me ,
 i have saved it for future references , and as far as i can understand it , i believe , i have nothing to fear from the law unless i sell any carved aust coins in current use , what  i am not sure of , if i bought an australian current in use coin that has been carved overseas by sid and lee ,
 say $ 1.00 mor ,i can import it into aust no trouble ,  but what if i was pulled up with it hanging around my neck ,and i can prove it was carved in the USA then am i still liable on not , or if i was to sell it ..
 a little hard for me to understand ..      ,, kel ,,
Title: RE: carved coins
Post by: keldaw on May 16, 2013, 06:45:47 PM
I never ever received the last 10 I ordered from usa lost my money for them .
 now the sad news , we were over on bribie island at the  markets a month ago and I had my bag of carved coins with me ,. I was showing a stall holder my lot  of carved coins and I put them on the table in the canvas bag and showed him them one at a time . then he said I will show you mine so I left the bag on the table , looked at his then walked away , forgetting mine ,. did not even miss them till earlier this week . so now gone forever , but they are carved coins , so who ever got them cant buy things with them , and would have a very hard time selling them ..   so maybe just maybe ??
             over $ 500.00 worth ..     ,, kel ,,
Title: RE: carved coins
Post by: ausjack on May 16, 2013, 07:03:52 PM
(a)  in the case of a person, not being a body corporate--$5,000 or imprisonment for 2 years, or both; or

                     (b)  in the case of a person, being a body corporate--$10,000.

I was talking to a mate the other day about this and told him if anyone wants to know I'm a body corporate from now on :mocking: double the money is better that 2 years :good: White collar crime should go for more of a row not less..ending rant before I start :)

I know it's a long shot and probably impossible Kel but did you try and contact the person..we have had some bad luck on the forum in the last few days..not good, not good at all :(
Title: RE: carved coins
Post by: robbiegal on May 16, 2013, 07:11:48 PM
Quote from: 'keldaw' pid='15021' dateline='1368695747'I never ever received the last 10 I ordered from usa lost my money for them .
 now the sad news , we were over on bribie island at the  markets a month ago and I had my bag of carved coins with me ,. I was showing a stall holder my lot  of carved coins and I put them on the table in the canvas bag and showed him them one at a time . then he said I will show you mine so I left the bag on the table , looked at his then walked away , forgetting mine ,. did not even miss them till earlier this week . so now gone forever , but they are carved coins , so who ever got them cant buy things with them , and would have a very hard time selling them ..   so maybe just maybe ??
             over $ 500.00 worth ..     ,, kel ,,

Kel - that stall holder will probably keep the bag of coins awaiting you to return for them