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Numismatic Discussion => Coin and Banknote Grading => Topic started by: trout on July 05, 2015, 07:10:03 AM

Title: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: trout on July 05, 2015, 07:10:03 AM
At last we can get value for our compulsory $5 charge for the secure option when sending our coins to be graded by PCGS.:yahoo:

Now you get the secure images AND a true viewish image as well , sans the fancy lettering found on the $10 option of true view.
This along with the new airtight slabs is quite an improvement in their grading service :good:

Here is one of my newly graded coins as an example .

http://www.pcgs.com/cert/32555627
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: markn on July 05, 2015, 08:23:10 AM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='75206' dateline='1436046003'At last we can get value for our compulsory $5 charge for the secure option when sending our coins to be graded by PCGS.:yahoo:

Now you get the secure images AND a true viewish image as well , sans the fancy lettering found on the $10 option of true view.
This along with the new airtight slabs is quite an improvement in their grading service :good:

Here is one of my newly graded coins as an example .

http://www.pcgs.com/cert/32555627

They don't do it for all coins.  In fact, I can't quite work out why they do it for some coins and not for others.  But it's a nice bonus when they do it.
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: robbiegal on July 05, 2015, 09:12:40 AM
so is that coin worth $2,500 (or more by now?)
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: trout on July 05, 2015, 09:14:31 AM
From what I have read I understand that if you choose the secure option you get the true view image.
Any "World" submission that isn't a "Modern" submission it is mandatory that you have to choose the secure option at the moment anyway.
I will try and suss it out further and if it really is getting the good images for the secure option I will choose it even for the modern submissions in future.

It will be interesting to see the images PCGS will supply me for my other submissions I have over there awaiting grades at the moment.
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: markn on July 05, 2015, 11:49:56 AM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='75211' dateline='1436053471'From what I have read I understand that if you choose the secure option you get the true view image.
Any "World" submission that isn't a "Modern" submission it is mandatory that you have to choose the secure option at the moment anyway.
I will try and suss it out further and if it really is getting the good images for the secure option I will choose it even for the modern submissions in future.

It will be interesting to see the images PCGS will supply me for my other submissions I have over there awaiting grades at the moment.

Well that's either wrong or we've just missed some cut off date.  None of our recent submissions (including some graded last week) have the better images.  And they were regular submissions.  But as I said, the better images have shown up from time to time on various coins with no real pattern for a year or two.  I think you might have just hit it lucky with this particular submission trout.

I should add that I suspect they take "free" trueview quality images when they want to use them for their CoinFacts database.
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: drakesterling on July 05, 2015, 01:00:49 PM
As markn has already said, they do images for all Secure services. Sometimes they are these Trueview-like images, and sometimes they're not.

Don't forget, when you pay for the TrueView images, you also get ultra-high resolution images - the images are about 30MB in size, while the Secure images are only about 200KB. Useful for those pesky 1919-1920 penny dot varieties or other coins where hi-res is useful.

(http://www.drakesterling.com/upload/1923S.jpg)
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: markn on July 05, 2015, 01:13:06 PM
Quote from: 'drakesterling' pid='75220' dateline='1436067049'As markn has already said, they do images for all Secure services. Sometimes they are these Trueview-like images, and sometimes they're not.

Don't forget, when you pay for the TrueView images, you also get ultra-high resolution images - the images are about 30MB in size, while the Secure images are only about 200KB. Useful for those pesky 1919-1920 penny dot varieties or other coins where hi-res is useful.

You can get bigger versions of the Secure Plus images too.  The normal images are of this form:

http://images.pcgs.com/SecurePlus/31755957_large.jpg

To see the larger images change the "large" to "extralarge".  

http://images.pcgs.com/SecurePlus/31755957_extralarge.jpg

Obviously you need to change the 8 numbers to match your own coin certification number.
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: trout on July 06, 2015, 05:33:25 AM
QuoteWell that's either wrong or we've just missed some cut off date. None of our recent submissions (including some graded last week) have the better images.

This was announced on the 2nd or third of July, I think you may have just been unlucky and just missed out.
I got my results on 3/7 I should get some more results from other submissions this week, I will let you know if I get the better images with them.
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: markn on July 06, 2015, 08:13:02 AM
Trout may be correct here, looks like there could have been a recent upgrade in services offered to SecurePlus coins.  From this page:

http://www.pcgs.com/secure/

"With PCGS Secure, each coin is laser scanned, imaged using the industry leading TrueViewSM Photography process, and registered into the PCGS Secure database. Through this process, the system digitally captures the unique fingerprints of both sides of the coin. This process allows your coin to be identified in the future should it be lost or stolen and then resubmitted to PCGS. Plus, with TrueView, you receive beautiful high resolution photography to optimally showcase your collection."
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: stevo1962 on July 06, 2015, 08:50:04 AM
PCGS are certainly leading the way with this technology so this can only encourage
PCGS sceptics to think twice
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: trout on July 07, 2015, 09:29:33 AM
It looks like the extra work involved with this true view imaging is slowing down the turnaround times a bit
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: robbiegal on July 07, 2015, 10:18:59 AM
maybe you could try out the hong kong pcgs outlet
it might have faster service ??
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: nickwotm on July 07, 2015, 08:09:10 PM
Quote from: 'drakesterling' pid='75220' dateline='1436067049'As markn has already said, they do images for all Secure services. Sometimes they are these Trueview-like images, and sometimes they're not.

Don't forget, when you pay for the TrueView images, you also get ultra-high resolution images - the images are about 30MB in size, while the Secure images are only about 200KB. Useful for those pesky 1919-1920 penny dot varieties or other coins where hi-res is useful.

(http://www.drakesterling.com/upload/1923S.jpg)

Now that is a really hi res image!  Very nice indeed, especially when looking at tricky die markers.
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: trout on July 08, 2015, 05:15:45 AM
Is it a "True View" or an "Enhanced View" image ?
I just looked at the PCGS images of  one of my sovereigns that has just been graded by PCGS at MS63.
The true view image makes this coin look to be MS66 minimum, The secure imaging shows why this was only graded at MS63.
If someone sold me this coin using the true view images I would be sadly disappointed when I received the coin.
Just something to be aware of if buying a coin online that uses a true view image in the listing description :ok:

True View image, the coin looks stunning in these images.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/2000_sov.jpg)

Secure image, this shows up the scratches and the fingerprint that kept this coin from getting a high grade.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/2000_sov1.jpg)
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: JeffH on July 08, 2015, 06:36:30 AM
And the saying is "the camera doesn't lie"!
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: robbiegal on July 08, 2015, 07:51:10 AM
it darn well doesn't when I take my selfies ... eeeeekkkkkk!!! runaway!!
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: Australian coin on July 08, 2015, 11:00:01 AM
year 2000 on a sov, is that a English coin
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: trout on July 08, 2015, 11:03:06 AM
Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='75359' dateline='1436319001'year 2000 on a sov, is that a English coin

Yes it is
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: trout on July 15, 2015, 07:47:12 AM
I picked up a submission of sovereigns yesterday in the new holders.
They do look and feel different and NO they don't fall apart :yahoo:
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: robbiegal on July 15, 2015, 07:47:17 PM
thank Christ or we'd be hearing about it for the next two weeks !!!
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: trout on July 15, 2015, 08:01:51 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='75660' dateline='1436955437'thank Christ or we'd be hearing about it for the next two weeks !!!
C'mon Sunshine, If my holders fell apart I would "Bitch" for a least a Month :) :angel::yahoo:















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Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: stevo1962 on July 15, 2015, 08:04:28 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='75662' dateline='1436956311'
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='75660' dateline='1436955437'thank Christ or we'd be hearing about it for the next two weeks !!!
C'mon Sunshine, If my holders fell apart I would "Bitch" for a least a Month :) :angel::yahoo:
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AGREED
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: robbiegal on July 15, 2015, 08:50:13 PM
ah ha
true!!!

I did think 2 weeks was a bit short as:
we'd have to go through the tantie
then the post back
then the stuff getting registered back in at pcgs
then regraded
then the photos end up being crap ... another tantie

then they get posted back - yippie

then mr aussie post sends them to Tasmania (5 times) instead of the WA

then bubba gets his pretties back

so yep  - a month might almost do it!! ha ha
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: trout on July 24, 2015, 09:58:56 AM
Images are rather good actually :)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/cook~2.jpg)
Title: RE: FREE True View images from PCGS
Post by: ausjack on July 24, 2015, 10:17:07 AM
Little bit of toning going on there cobba :)