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Title: First and Last prefixes
Post by: gnome on September 10, 2012, 05:17:29 PM
Haven't shown this one before I don't think..
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t13/compassnorth/notes/1stserialno.jpg)
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: gnome on September 11, 2012, 06:22:01 AM
92 fivers
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t13/compassnorth/notes/5litegreenno.jpg)
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: accumulator on September 12, 2012, 07:31:20 PM
YDA 79 first prefix run of 3

(http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo339/appeangel07_photos/IMG_0001_NEW-2.jpg)

QFA 85 last prefix

(http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo339/appeangel07_photos/IMG_0002-3.jpg)

YAA 73/4 first prefix

(http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo339/appeangel07_photos/IMG_0055.jpg)

1939 last prefix

(http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo339/appeangel07_photos/29-9-08/new%20coin%20album/f10f5c4f.jpg)
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: gnome on September 12, 2012, 08:38:10 PM
Nice, like the ten shilling one.
 I have a few more not imaged yet, mainly all decimal, I think.
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: MobOfRoos on October 06, 2012, 10:38:51 AM
Does anybody know when people started collecting first and last prefixes? When I first had an interest in the late 70s I dont remember anything being mentioned about them.

:zomby: gotta love some of these smilies :laughingneqw:
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Mister T on October 06, 2012, 12:12:41 PM
Not sure. My 1980 Renniks gives all prefixes the same value but my 1985 Renniks gives first prefixes (but not last prefixes) a higher value.
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Fordprefect on October 06, 2012, 12:19:59 PM
I would suggest after Mick Vort-Ronald's writings in ACR late '70s
and the publishing of His "Australian Banknotes" 1979, interest by
General collectors began. :read:
Never really got into the Serial No. thing, it was only early this year
that I realised that a note I picked up in the '66 "Change Over"
was a First Prefix

(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Pre%20Decimal%20Notes/V3_939393_face_R58.jpg)
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: tiddyathome on November 16, 2012, 07:17:12 AM
Picked up a VG 95 $50 note today from local ATM
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: AaronG on November 16, 2012, 10:12:38 AM
I found a AA99 $100 note practically unc just 1 little crease on the corner, I just put id back into circulation, not much of a premium for those!
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Australian coin on November 16, 2012, 10:12:48 AM
Info required!
Can you get first and last prefix note in you change, cos I herd you can buy them from the RBA.
I was thinking of getting some of next years, but I don’t collect notes so have no idea how to go about it.
What notes do the RBA provide, will they be low numbers or anything special
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: AaronG on November 16, 2012, 10:22:33 AM
You can get them in you're change, can't answer the other questions :/
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Bigfellani5 on November 16, 2012, 10:31:56 AM
Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='3227' dateline='1353022968'Info required!
Can you get first and last prefix note in you change, cos I herd you can buy them from the RBA.
I was thinking of getting some of next years, but I don’t collect notes so have no idea how to go about it.
What notes do the RBA provide, will they be low numbers or anything special

Is is possible to get them in change but most likely they will be used. The RBA over the last few years has give a once only of first and last prefix notes at a premium. There are a few hoops to jump through to get them. Else see your friendly dealer!
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Australian coin on November 16, 2012, 10:35:53 AM
thx :)
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: accumulator on November 16, 2012, 11:09:04 AM
Hi AC, Last year Goatieman from CCF was organising a bulk buy ,( unfortunately i did'nt have any money at the time ) i reckon the RBA were a bit greedy in asking for about 45% premium above face value though.
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: emu666 on November 16, 2012, 11:56:56 AM
Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='3227' dateline='1353022968'Info required!
Can you get first and last prefix note in you change, cos I herd you can buy them from the RBA.
I was thinking of getting some of next years, but I don’t collect notes so have no idea how to go about it.
What notes do the RBA provide, will they be low numbers or anything special

The only special thing will be the serial number prefix. I've never received a solid number or a radar from the Reserve Bank but I imagine it would be possible as they do not sell solids or radars separately.
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: MobOfRoos on November 17, 2012, 10:36:09 AM
Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='3227' dateline='1353022968'Info required!
Can you get first and last prefix note in you change, cos I herd you can buy them from the RBA.
I was thinking of getting some of next years, but I don’t collect notes so have no idea how to go about it.
What notes do the RBA provide, will they be low numbers or anything special

Each August the RBA announces the sale of first prefixes, last prefixes and uncirculated notes using an order form available on their site. They won't take any requests for special numbers. The 2011 notes are no longer available from the RBA but can be got from dealers still at a modest retail margin. Interestingly it seems that dealers are able to get first and last prefix notes with the same 3 or 4 numbers in the serial number although I would be interested in hearing more information about that.

The RBA doesn't sell all of the first and last prefixes so they can still be found in circulation as well.
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: eirrab on May 23, 2013, 02:52:02 PM
Noticed that the RBA has put out its preliminary announcement about 1st and last prefix sales for this year.
Only $5, $10 and $50 will have the 2012 prefix. The printing numbers are here:

http://banknotes.rba.gov.au/serialnumberinfo.html

Any thoughts about the numbers?
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: humpybong on May 23, 2013, 07:20:55 PM
Here is the email being sent out to interested parties:

For a limited period of time, the Reserve Bank of Australia will be selling first and last prefix banknotes printed in 2012 and standard uncirculated banknotes from the most recent year of print.  

Orders will be accepted from 15 July until 23 August 2013.

Requests for specific serial numbers will not be met and banknotes are not guaranteed to be in consecutive order.  All orders must be submitted in writing on the original order form and can only be shipped within Australia.  Orders received after 23 August 2012 will not be processed.

First and last prefix banknotes will be sold at set prices and standard uncirculated banknotes will be sold at face value.  Postage and handling fees will apply to all orders.  Full details will be provided on the order form, which will be available on the Reserve Bank's website closer to the commencement of the sale.  Please advise us if you are unable to access the order form online and we will arrange for one to be posted to you.  

Standard uncirculated banknotes can also be purchased from our Sydney Head Office (65 Martin Place) and Canberra Branch (20-22 London Circuit) at face value as a cash transaction.

If you wish to unsubscribe from notifications of future numismatic arrangements, please send a reply email with the subject UNSUBSCRIBE.

Regards,

Rebecca Dredge | Note Issue Enquiries | Note Issue
RESERVE BANK OF AUSTRALIA | 65 Martin Place, Sydney NSW 2000
p: 1800 633 220 | f: +61 2 9551 8021 | w: banknotes.rba.gov.au
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: MobOfRoos on May 23, 2013, 08:11:25 PM
Quote from: 'eirrab' pid='15937' dateline='1369286522'Noticed that the RBA has put out its preliminary announcement about 1st and last prefix sales for this year.
Only $5, $10 and $50 will have the 2012 prefix.

:yahoo:

Great news. I'm also happy that they didn't print any $100 notes. It will make the purchase less pricey.
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: eirrab on May 24, 2013, 12:41:34 PM
Agreed!!!
When they limit the order with ID registration to $1000, a few $100s and $50s quickly adds up.

Which ones do you think will be be best buys this year? The $50 have a lower last prefix print run, I think (checked the RBA serial number lists on their site - but I sometimes get confused about how to calculate the numbers)
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: graeme on May 24, 2013, 09:54:22 PM
I got a $5 first prefix  BA12 828173  in my change at the hotel last year, was most surprised that it had been released into circulation.
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Fulvio on May 25, 2013, 01:49:34 AM
Here's a handy PDF of first/last prefixes, formatted to fit on an iPhone:
http://goo.gl/utkSq
(http://goo.gl/utkSq.qr)
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: stevo1962 on May 25, 2013, 11:55:11 AM
Here are a few of my first and last and also a no prefix note

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Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Pedro on May 25, 2013, 02:34:51 PM
Some nice notes there Stevo. :drooling:

Pedro
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: eirrab on May 26, 2013, 07:56:59 PM
Nice summary, Fulvio

Thanks
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: interest on May 26, 2013, 10:58:46 PM
Quote from: 'eirrab' pid='16248' dateline='1369564019'Nice summary, Fulvio

Thanks
I'd agree with that.
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Fulvio on May 27, 2013, 03:16:30 AM
Thanks guys. I mainly did it for my own use, cos I never ever remember last prefixes. Figured it was worth a share. :)
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Dusk1 on May 28, 2013, 10:21:31 AM
If you didn't already know. RBA 2012 first & last notes on sale 15 July until 23 August 2013.
http://banknotes.rba.gov.au/collecting.html
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Dusk1 on July 12, 2013, 12:42:39 PM
Quote from: 'Dusk1' pid='16402' dateline='1369702291'If you didn't already know. RBA 2012 first & last notes on sale 15 July until 23 August 2013.
http://banknotes.rba.gov.au/collecting.html

Bump
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Coins from Vending on July 14, 2013, 04:01:43 PM
Are these last prefix notes worth buying??

Do they go up in value quickly??

I am looking at buying 10K of 50s at $66 a note that's an 32% premium on face value??  looking at history what would these $50 notes be worth in say 2 years??

Would you get $85+ a note in serial number order??
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Mister T on July 14, 2013, 05:54:48 PM
I think it depends just how many last prefix notes are made. If they made 999 999 all the way down to 000 001 probably not but if the last prefix is only 999 999 down to 900 000 or something it might be worth it. The fact that UNC notes are available for sale means there's probably less chance of making a profit too as everyone else has the opportunity to get them if they want.
Or at least it seems that way to me; I don't keenly follow note prices.
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Fulvio on July 14, 2013, 10:46:31 PM
Quote from: 'error hunter' pid='21473' dateline='1373783503'I am looking at buying 10K of 50s at $66

I can think of much better uses for ten grand. If you do this, you're going to start 13.2% down, then lose say 4%-ish a year. So in a couple of years you've evaporated a quarter of your investment. The likelihood you'll be able to find buyers is slim, and the longer you wait, the worse it gets.

OTOH, put that money into either current coinage at face value (like the coronation $2), or carefully selected higher value items, and you can double your money almost instantly.

Better yet, use it as seed money to start noodling. :angel:
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Coins from Vending on July 15, 2013, 08:44:32 AM
Yeah that's what I thought, the first last prefix logic on notes just doesn't make sense, to me it makes no diff if a note was first 2nd 5th or last issue???
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Fulvio on July 15, 2013, 04:59:05 PM
Oh, it makes a difference all right. It just takes a lifetime or two though. I keep any I find, but I'm under no delusions that they're worth a premium, certainly not in my lifetime, so I refuse to pay one by buying them at more than face value.
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Dusk1 on July 16, 2013, 12:50:10 PM
I purchased a few 2005 $5 last pre-fix KC05 & 2008 first & last series when first issued & got lucky, especially with the 2008 ones. Bit of a lottery though.
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: coxspau on July 16, 2013, 01:20:07 PM
Landed my first $1 DPS today. Condition isn't exceptional but considering I paid $1 for it, I'd say it was good value.
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Fulvio on July 16, 2013, 03:46:48 PM
Quote from: 'coxspau' pid='21652' dateline='1373946607'I'd say it was good value.

Can't go wrong at face value. :)
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: interest on August 02, 2013, 12:26:33 PM
Received my notes from the RBA this morning.
All consecutive running numbers.
Happy enough with the numbers nothing special just first & last prefixes.
nothing like the smell of new plastic notes!
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: coxspau on August 02, 2013, 02:57:45 PM
I love the smell of new plastic notes...only way they could smell better was if someone else as paying for them.

I do like the lottery of note buying to see whether you've landed any radars or solids.
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: ausjack on August 02, 2013, 03:15:26 PM
:( not as good as paper money..now there's a smell :) and feel :sleepy:
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: Dusk1 on August 02, 2013, 03:30:39 PM
Quote from: 'coxspau' pid='23645' dateline='1375421265'II do like the lottery of note buying to see whether you've landed any radars or solids.

Yeah, I'm always hopfull, but the solids seem to appear in the one location, with a dealer!
Title: RE: First and Last prefixes
Post by: emu666 on September 15, 2013, 01:29:31 PM
I beat the odds with notes I received.
Bought full bundles of first and last fives and tens.
Got a radar five

and some like this: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3424&item=370897735681