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Title: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: trout on May 27, 2015, 07:42:08 PM
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that we seldom find one of these coins in our change anymore?
10 years ago they were commonplace in my change, not any more.
Title: RE: Dissapering Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: jens coins on May 27, 2015, 08:09:53 PM
It must be just your area as we get them all the time and just ignore them.
Title: RE: Dissapering Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: Fulvio on May 27, 2015, 08:12:20 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='73186' dateline='1432721528'Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that we seldom find one of these coins in our change anymore?
10 years ago they were commonplace in my change, not any more.

Well, *I* haven't got them all! Not yet, anyway. ;)
Title: RE: Dissapering Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: trout on May 27, 2015, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: 'jens coins' pid='73188' dateline='1432723193'It must be just your area as we get them all the time and just ignore them.

I haven't seen one in years, that's why I asked the question.
Title: RE: Dissapering Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: Pedro on May 27, 2015, 08:52:05 PM
Still popping up in noodles reasonably regularly but the quality has declined with age in circulation so most have gone back into the pond.

Pedro
Title: RE: Dissapering Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: Ozcoins on May 27, 2015, 09:58:59 PM
I got one from a vending machine last week, but you don't see many.
I think they tend to be better condition than other coins that sort of age, as people keep them when they are found in change.
Title: RE: Dissapering Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: Triggersmob on May 27, 2015, 10:36:46 PM
I still see them in the till at work.
Title: RE: Dissapering Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: runway on May 29, 2015, 11:14:35 PM
I've yet to see a bad circulated 70 Cook 50c they appear a lot in loose change,haven't got one this year though
Title: RE: Dissapering Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: Goldseeker on May 30, 2015, 12:45:56 AM
I completed noodling earlier today and saw around 20 of them out of a total of 2000.

That is about average sightings for me at present.
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: Mister T on June 08, 2015, 01:26:08 PM
I think I've only ever got one (maybe two) in change but I've looked through a few lots of $50 of 50c pieces lately and all but one lot I think had a 1970 50c piece.
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: trout on June 09, 2015, 02:07:43 PM
I am looking through some of my specimen Captain Cooks and came across this little ripper.
My images do not do the colour of the toning on this coin justice.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/cook~1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/cook1~1.jpg)
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: Pedro on June 09, 2015, 03:19:55 PM
Yep, you have a beauty there Trout!

Pedro
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: JeffH on June 09, 2015, 03:20:59 PM
Not just the 1970 either; 1991 ramshead and 1988 tall ships are appearing much less often than they used to -not that the 1991 was ever a common to find coin anyway.
But the ones that are found are often much better condition than you would expect for their age. I think they are ones people have held on to (so many were near new when put away) and now they are trickling back into the pond.
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: trout on June 09, 2015, 03:25:20 PM
Many of these are beautifully toned , I think the case is responsible for this :ok:
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: robbiegal on June 09, 2015, 07:23:00 PM
very pretty
ps ... queenie whispered that she wants to move into my place !!! ha ha
would look very nice with my little lot of specimen captain cooks
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: trout on July 23, 2015, 09:46:54 AM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='74149' dateline='1433843580'very pretty
ps ... queenie whispered that she wants to move into my place !!! ha ha
would look very nice with my little lot of specimen captain cooks

I have a few of these in at PCGS getting graded at the moment.
I still have 12 to get graded but here are the results from one submission graded today :ok:
SP66x2
SP67x6
SP68x1

I have another 11 in one submission that I think will do better, I really want an SP69 coin :angel:
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: ausjack on July 23, 2015, 10:42:33 AM
If one of mine come back 69 you can have it :angel: but I doubt it but it's nice to dream sometimes :D
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: trout on July 23, 2015, 12:18:05 PM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='76008' dateline='1437613953'If one of mine come back 69 you can have it :angel: but I doubt it but it's nice to dream sometimes :D

Nah Mate if one of yours comes back a 69 you keep it :ok:
I went through over a hundred of these and picked the best 20 or so to submit.
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: esky64 on July 27, 2015, 07:05:18 PM
I also have not seen them be interested in buying them in lots if you keep them for me

Quote from: 'trout' pid='76003' dateline='1437610614'
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='74149' dateline='1433843580'very pretty
ps ... queenie whispered that she wants to move into my place !!! ha ha
would look very nice with my little lot of specimen captain cooks

I have a few of these in at PCGS getting graded at the moment.
I still have 12 to get graded but here are the results from one submission graded today :ok:
SP66x2
SP67x6
SP68x1

I have another 11 in one submission that I think will do better, I really want an SP69 coin :angel:
sorry for a silly question but what is SP69
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: trout on July 27, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
Quote from: 'esky64' pid='76449' dateline='1437989718'I also have not seen them be interested in buying them in lots if you keep them for me


Quote from: 'trout' pid='76003' dateline='1437610614'
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='74149' dateline='1433843580'very pretty
ps ... queenie whispered that she wants to move into my place !!! ha ha
would look very nice with my little lot of specimen captain cooks

I have a few of these in at PCGS getting graded at the moment.
I still have 12 to get graded but here are the results from one submission graded today :ok:
SP66x2
SP67x6
SP68x1

I have another 11 in one submission that I think will do better, I really want an SP69 coin :angel:
sorry for a silly question but what is SP69

You Need a Minimum of 50 posts to buy or sell on this site :ok:
http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=23

A SP69 Captain Cook would be "Top of the Wazza" Currently there are NO SP69 coins graded by PCGS :)
Getting a 68 is tough enough :dash1:
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: robbiegal on July 27, 2015, 08:30:33 PM
hi esky
I think that SP means specimen - the higher the number the higher the grade
so trout is saying that an SP69 is one of the highest grades to achieve with the PCGS mob
hope that helps
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: trout on July 27, 2015, 08:34:26 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='76454' dateline='1437994833'hi esky
I think that SP means specimen - the higher the number the higher the grade
so trout is saying that an SP69 is one of the highest grades to achieve with the PCGS mob
hope that helps

Thanks RG, You explain it Way better than I do :friends::)
I have gone through hundreds of these coins in the Red cases ( a few were NOT SP but swap outs) and picked the best 20 or so to try and get a 69 coin.
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: runway on July 27, 2015, 10:55:33 PM
Quote from: 'esky64' pid='76449' dateline='1437989718'I also have not seen them be interested in buying them in lots if you keep them for me


Quote from: 'trout' pid='76003' dateline='1437610614'
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='74149' dateline='1433843580'very pretty
ps ... queenie whispered that she wants to move into my place !!! ha ha
would look very nice with my little lot of specimen captain cooks

I have a few of these in at PCGS getting graded at the moment.
I still have 12 to get graded but here are the results from one submission graded today :ok:
SP66x2
SP67x6
SP68x1

I have another 11 in one submission that I think will do better, I really want an SP69 coin :angel:
sorry for a silly question but what is SP69
Good question ... what is SP69
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: trout on July 28, 2015, 05:40:16 AM
QuoteGood question ... what is SP69

Like RG said,SP69 is a Grade The highest Being PR70.
Google "Sheldon Grading System" and you will find out what we are talking about :ok:
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: Triggersmob on July 28, 2015, 07:36:07 AM
I found 2 Captain Cook 50c coins in the till last Sunday.
So they are still out there. :)
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: Mister T on July 28, 2015, 07:50:34 AM
I got one from two $10 bags of 50c pieces last week too.
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: runway on July 28, 2015, 08:50:53 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='76461' dateline='1438027816'
QuoteGood question ... what is SP69

Like RG said,SP69 is a Grade The highest Being PR70.
Google "Sheldon Grading System" and you will find out what we are talking about :ok:
Thanks I get it now :wavemulticolor:
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: robbiegal on July 28, 2015, 09:16:18 PM
Specimen is the special type of planchet preparation and strike . So it is just below proof then Specimen then gem uncirculated then business. I think the gems parallel with specimen but I don't believe that they are struck more then once, rather they use the brand new dies for the run. Something like that anyways
The numbers are the grade
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: ausjack on July 28, 2015, 10:20:33 PM
AU and MS are for business strike coins EXCEPT wedding coin sets as they're MS but should be either SP or PR and yes for those that don't know SP is for specimen and PR is proof and like others have said the higher the number the better the coin with 70 being the top. These are just a few links explain it
http://www.pcgs.com/grades/
Eric's is pretty bloody good and probably better than PCGS
http://www.drakesterling.com/coins-for-sale/more-information/what-is-pcgs
http://www.drakesterling.com/CustomPageFiles-2/Proof_Centenary_Florin.pdf
https://www.sterlingcurrency.com.au/research/introduction-proof-pattern-specimen-coinage
http://www.numismatics.com.au/Blog/Coin_Grading_Guide
Hope it helps :)
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: trout on July 29, 2015, 05:22:31 AM
Here is a Proof coin Graded PR69DCAM I just got back from PCGS :ok:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/cook_PR69b.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/cook_PR69a.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/cook_PR69.jpg)
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: Unicorn on July 29, 2015, 07:55:06 AM
Very nice Trout!!!! Great pics too!
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: Robster on July 29, 2015, 08:10:00 AM
Impressive result.!
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: robbiegal on July 29, 2015, 04:51:37 PM
I wonder if any of my pretties would grade high with pcgs
I have a few nice ones
just wonder sometimes
maybe trout can let me know how i'd go if I post a pic or so
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: trout on July 29, 2015, 05:45:30 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='76539' dateline='1438154497'I wonder if any of my pretties would grade high with pcgs
I have a few nice ones
just wonder sometimes
maybe trout can let me know how i'd go if I post a pic or so

Sorry RG , I have to see a coin "In Hand" before I can make any judgment/appraisal of it.
Once you get to 68 and above it is the tiny little things that decide what grade it makes :ok:
Just something simple like a couple of "Milk Spots" will affect a grade.
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: Pedro on July 29, 2015, 06:39:24 PM
Looks like a road trip is called for RG! :D

Pedro
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: robbiegal on July 29, 2015, 07:46:55 PM
yeah
i'd probably think mine are perfect but maybe the boys at pcgs wouldn't think the same !
I usually overestimate my opinions
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: trout on August 22, 2015, 12:10:37 PM
There are 39 Captain Cooks graded SP and I own 20 of them :dance::dance2::dance::)

Here is one of them
Graded SP68
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/32647673_large.jpg)
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: Unicorn on August 22, 2015, 12:39:03 PM
ooooooo la la Troutski!!!
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: Unicorn on August 22, 2015, 01:56:16 PM
There's no doubt you play the dark horse well Trout.

An incredible % rate.
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: interest on August 28, 2015, 11:50:52 PM
Here's one I found while packing.
I have no idea where that came from.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb22/interest88/cook_zpsmyvcnjq5.jpg)
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: Ozcoins on August 29, 2015, 11:30:41 AM
Someone young was doing a short speech on James Cook.
They were very excited when I went and found a 1970 50c to have and use during the speech.  Now the whole class will also learn about these coins as well!
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: robbiegal on August 29, 2015, 11:35:52 AM
kitsch unleased!! Interest - very cool brooch

Quote from: 'trout' pid='78056' dateline='1440211237'There are 39 Captain Cooks graded SP and I own 20 of them :dance::dance2::dance::)

Here is one of them
Graded SP68
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/32647673_large.jpg)

so how much are these coins worth to sell?
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: trout on August 29, 2015, 01:10:10 PM
Quoteso how much are these coins worth to sell?
That is a rather good question RG.
I had one of these at MS68 on Numisbid last night and it only achieved $55 It was a specimen coin but only graded  MS68 instead of SP68.
Bluesheet has these at
MS68 $200
SP68 $230

With the MS coins the Highest graded is MS69 with a population of three coins at that grade.
The highest grade for the SP coins is SP68 with 14 coins at that grade.

To answer your question, I really don't know But they are rather nice and not that easy to come by so  I am not especially  happy to let them go under $200 so I will be hanging onto mine for a while :ok:
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: robbiegal on August 29, 2015, 04:41:49 PM
thanks
I agree that what it sells isn't necessarily what it is worth
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: robbiegal on September 04, 2015, 10:21:38 PM
I dragged out some coins tonight and took some snaps
these specimens coins are just to die for
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10035/1970_FIFTY_CENTS_SPECIMEN.jpg)
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: trout on September 04, 2015, 10:25:53 PM
They ARE Stunning coins.
The colours go from Silver to Gold to Purple and every other colour in between :yahoo:
And the STRIKE .......WOW :good:
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: Unicorn on September 04, 2015, 10:32:19 PM
A beautiful coin and pics to match RG!!!
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: robbiegal on September 04, 2015, 10:34:29 PM
fanks Uni
I get sooo frustrated taking 25 photos for the one coin! ha ha

Hey Trout
I have a purplish one like yours pictured up there ^^^^^
my coin probably isn't as perfect but I love the colours too
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: trout on September 04, 2015, 10:42:15 PM
I have heaps of these that didn't make the "Cut" but they are worth keeping just for the way you can rotate them in the sun and look at the kaleidoscope of colour  :yahoo:
I think these and the wedding set coins are by far the best Decimal  coins ever produced by the Mint bar none :ok:
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: robbiegal on September 04, 2015, 10:43:56 PM
"kaleidoscope of colour" - perfectly stated

that is exactly why I collect the captain cooks and the humble penny
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: trout on September 04, 2015, 10:54:14 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='78814' dateline='1441372436'"kaleidoscope of colour" - perfectly stated

that is exactly why I collect the captain cooks and the humble penny

NOTHING "Humble" about your penny's Mate :)
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: runway on September 05, 2015, 08:31:47 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='78437' dateline='1440813952'kitsch unleased!! Interest - very cool brooch


Quote from: 'trout' pid='78056' dateline='1440211237'There are 39 Captain Cooks graded SP and I own 20 of them :dance::dance2::dance::)

Here is one of them
Graded SP68
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/32647673_large.jpg)

so how much are these coins worth to sell?
Fantastic looking coin wow :wavemulticolor:
Title: RE: Disappearing Captain Cook 50 cent coins
Post by: trout on September 17, 2015, 11:03:18 AM
These are still Available for little expense But you have to sort through quite a few of them before you find the "Good" ones :ok:
I have probably 50-60 of these that didn't make the "Cut" :cray: