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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Errors and Varieties => Topic started by: meepmeep on April 20, 2015, 08:58:10 PM

Title: clear out ...
Post by: meepmeep on April 20, 2015, 08:58:10 PM
Hello
So I was here awhile ago (forgot account name/attached to old email address) I got attacked by someone saying I couldn't use the term bubble for a 20c variety as it was a term they used first??? anyone remember Haha anyway ... Went through my collection again after a few months and I want to know if I should just spend some or sell or keep? I've only been in and out of the hobby for about 2 years so I don't have much of an dea ... I will post more but the first lucky one is this 2006 $1 with a pretty cool misstrike? in my opinion :) thanks in advance !
(http://i.imgur.com/FSOknUY.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/xzZgOLE.jpg)

I will add more photos once I figure out how :s
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: Fulvio on April 20, 2015, 10:33:40 PM
Quote from: 'meepmeep' pid='71007' dateline='1429529290'I will add more photos once I figure out how :s

Welcome back.. who were you?

Attachments suck.. there's a small limit, and they look pretty ordinary.

Get yourself an account on imgur.com, upload the pics there (you can even send them by email if you like), then link them inline here. Simply use IMG tags, just like HTML, but with square brackets ([] instead of <>).

So for example,

[ img ] http://i.imgur.com/Jpei7Fb.jpg [ /img ]

(without the spaces of course) becomes:

(http://i.imgur.com/Jpei7Fb.jpg)

Easy, eh?
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: Nevol on April 21, 2015, 06:30:15 AM
:welcome: to the Forum! Don't worry about someone getting up your nose, it's all meant either in good fun or as a way of trying to help you.  

I do remember the 'bubble' discussion, but the majority of it happened on the CCF Forum.

Many more 'bubble' types of coin have been discovered by a few of our members since then, so I hope you feel comfortable enough to hang around this time. :ok:
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: meepmeep on April 21, 2015, 07:46:37 AM
I can't even remember fulvio haha but thank you I will try and set one up this arv so fingers crossed (:

Nevol thank you haha yeah I quickly left after that it was off putting but here I am again :P

I will fix up my photos this afternoon (:
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: stevo1962 on April 21, 2015, 09:26:12 AM
Welcome meep meep don't worry there are a few rude people on this site but mostly there are a lot of nice and knowledgable collectors who are only too happy to share information.Stick around and put in your 20 cents worth
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: trout on April 21, 2015, 09:48:38 AM
:welcome:
To the forum MeepPeep.
Formerly Larena I think :) :yahoo:
:wavemulticolor:

Great to see you posting :good:
I think I bought a couple of these Bubble 20 coins off you when you first discovered them.
I don't normally have much interest in error coins but this particular error fitted into and enhanced the design of the Platypus in the water on the 20 cent coin. :good:
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: meepmeep on April 21, 2015, 09:57:52 AM
Thanks Stevo I'm a bit older now (22) so not as discouraged easily I hope haha

Hey trout I didn't discover it but the person who did wasn't happy that others were using the term they coined for it aha and I didn't sell any either it might have actually be the person who did discover it and coin it the bubble you bought them off (: I've only ever found 3 and I still have them (:

Thanks guys for being nice! Haha
Hey fulvio thanks for the photo tips I got it to work yay!
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: Goldseeker on April 21, 2015, 08:01:25 PM
Hey meepmeep, that looks like a nice error but clearer pictures would go a long way particularly of the edge of the coin.

Looking at the flat coin, it certainly looks like a great offset or out of collar mint.   (I think that is the correct terminology).

If you are clearing that one out, my address is as follows.................
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: Nevol on April 21, 2015, 08:10:40 PM
Looks like it might be a straight partial collar. Great find! :yahoo:
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: Fulvio on April 21, 2015, 09:54:33 PM
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='71046' dateline='1429612840'Looks like it might be a straight partial collar. Great find! :yahoo:

Tilted partial collar I think, judging from the second pic.

Meep, glad to see you worked it out. One other thing though.. do try to crop/rotate pics to maximise the effect. And when saving, I've found 75% JPEG compression minimises file size without loss of detail. Most of my pics are 1/6th of their original file size as they came out of the camera, and you'd be hard put to see the difference.

Now, can we get an edge shot that shows if its straight or tilted please? :)

PS: Don't listen to Goldy. He was just telling me he has too many coins and has to start dumping them. I can give it a far better home than he would. :angel:
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: meepmeep on April 21, 2015, 09:54:39 PM
Hey goldseeker since I thought it would probably be a dud again I will do some research and get back to you might sit on it for awhile (someone wanting it has made me want to keep it haha) I need to clear out though !! :P but in the meantime I will try and get better pictures (:

Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='71050' dateline='1429619073'
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='71046' dateline='1429612840'Looks like it might be a straight partial collar. Great find! :yahoo:

Tilted partial collar I think, judging from the second pic.

Meep, glad to see you worked it out. One other thing though.. do try to crop/rotate pics to maximise the effect. And when saving, I've found 75% JPEG compression minimises file size without loss of detail. Most of my pics are 1/6th of their original file size as they came out of the camera, and you'd be hard put to see the difference.

Now, can we get an edge shot that shows if its straight or tilted please? :)

PS: Don't listen to Goldy. He was just telling me he has too many coins and has to start dumping them. I can give it a far better home than he would. :angel:

Hey thanks I will have to do it tomorrow arv or the next day as I have a statistics exam tomorrow :o and I will have to triple read what you just said and than figure it out haha. I  just have my phone for a camera but it's a pretty good camera so I should be able to get a much better shot + with your advice fingers crossed
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: Fulvio on April 21, 2015, 10:01:01 PM
Quote from: 'meepmeep' pid='71051' dateline='1429619079'I thought it would probably be a dud again

Not at all. Collar errors are rather rare, and highly desirable. Even without better pics, and in what looks to be pretty poor condition, its worth at least ten times face value, and possibly quite a lot more in a bidding war.
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: meepmeep on April 21, 2015, 10:08:03 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='71052' dateline='1429619461'
Quote from: 'meepmeep' pid='71051' dateline='1429619079'I thought it would probably be a dud again

Not at all. Collar errors are rather rare, and highly desirable. Even without better pics, and in what looks to be pretty poor condition, its worth at least ten times face value, and possibly quite a lot more in a bidding war.

Eek awesome I guess I have gotten better at picking out the good ones from the dryer and/or washing machine ones haha
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: Fulvio on April 21, 2015, 10:10:47 PM
Quote from: 'meepmeep' pid='71051' dateline='1429619079'I  just have my phone for a camera but it's a pretty good camera so I should be able to get a much better shot + with your advice fingers crossed

The secret to phone pics is lighting. Even more so than with any other camera, since the sensors are so small.

Try photographing it outdoors in full sunlight, against a black backdrop. Get as close in as you can focus. If the phone has a macro setting, or a macro lens attachment, use it.

On a Mac, I pass all my pics, whether from my camera or the iPod, through GraphicConverter, saving the pics at 75% quality. On a PC, I believe ACDSee does the job, but since I avoid PC's like the plague, maybe someone else can advise. And there are probably phone apps that will do the job too, but I don't use any.
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: autocoupler on April 22, 2015, 12:47:08 PM
Quote from: 'meepmeep' pid='71007' dateline='1429529290'(http://i.imgur.com/FSOknUY.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/xzZgOLE.jpg)


Hi and welcome back meepmeep, I think Ian McConnelly referred to this as a ram strike in one of his cab articles. Something to do with the collar die being out of position during the minting process. I don't know much about the how, I just collect em ha ha. Someone else may be able to elaborate. Anyhow, this is one I came across.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10064/IMG_2508_281024x76829.jpg)
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: Australian coin on April 22, 2015, 02:31:30 PM
just make sure this doesn't become a selling thread, there are rules people
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: meepmeep on April 22, 2015, 03:12:38 PM
Thanks Australian coin I will try and make sure it doesn't

Here are some more photos I think it's the best they're going to get for photos though

(http://i.imgur.com/gHhIqiN.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/KFSCGuT.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/hTE24Fm.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/xYFhDIR.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Hw2XSTH.jpg)
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: Fulvio on April 22, 2015, 04:59:24 PM
Quote from: 'meepmeep' pid='71080' dateline='1429681358'Here are some more photos I think it's the best they're going to get for photos though

Niiice.. told ya it was tilted. :)

Also, I'll have a go at trimming the pics for you a little later so you can see what I was on about.
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: meepmeep on April 22, 2015, 06:09:43 PM
Hey Flávio yeah I decided I didn't understand and just left it at that aha do you mean like changing the pixels?
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: JeffH on April 22, 2015, 07:12:48 PM
Turns out to be quite easy to trim a picture Fulvio. Here is my first attempt at one of the ones above.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10055/trimmed.jpg) :diablo:
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: Fulvio on April 22, 2015, 07:44:01 PM
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='71099' dateline='1429695768'Turns out to be quite easy to trim a picture Fulvio. Here is my first attempt at one of the ones above.

Hardy Har Har! :P

OK, done...

Note the file sizes. The originals are at the bottom:

(http://i.imgur.com/m9fzzFJ.png)

These haven't been altered, other than cropping and in some cases rotating them.

(http://i.imgur.com/18MT7yA.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/xKYeApm.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/8YN9CY4.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/GWNoOOI.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/TziQHbe.jpg)
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: meepmeep on April 22, 2015, 08:11:37 PM
Eek well thanks so I don't need to edit it any other way I can just crop and rotate! I can do that! Aha thank you!
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: JeffH on April 22, 2015, 08:17:20 PM
Biggest size that the forum will accept without downsizing the picture is 1499 pixels wide. So that is worth bearing in mind.
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: oh my florin on April 23, 2015, 10:18:30 AM
The title reminds me off Macroeconomics lol. Anyway it looks genuine and rather nice. You certainly don't see many off these errors in the market, nice pickup regardless.
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: meepmeep on April 23, 2015, 01:00:48 PM
Thanks everyone I think I am going to keep it !
Should I just post my others on other threads like the noodling find one instead of just a thread I start for my own coins? If so I will delete this one I'm just not sure thank you (:
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: Nevol on April 23, 2015, 04:00:01 PM
No need to delete this thread.  Have a look around and if there's no thread that covers the coins you have, by all means start a new thread.  The noodling thread is meant to be for coins found when noodling, but it's not a hard and fast rule.
Title: RE: clear out ...
Post by: Fulvio on April 23, 2015, 08:46:51 PM
Yeah, what she said...

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of mega-posts, because you can never find anything in them. That said, threads with zero activity drop like a stone,  so there's a happy medium. I think this thread fits the bill for a good one.