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I will have a look through (just glanced quickly at it now) and then vote.
I wouldn't mind getting a few ancients just to impress people who think older is better. My thought was to just get a few common, cheap ones but it is still nice to know the background to any coins you have. My coin bucket list does include a silver Byzantine coin from Turkey (or region) but that probably would not be old enough to qualify as 'ancient'. I did find one in a mixed world buy once and stupidly sold it -it was only 8% silver (apparently inflation was rampant then and silver content was progressively reduced) and looked like a lightish copper alloy (which, of course, it is).
92% silver = Sterling 92% copper = Sweet Fanny Adams
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='69690' dateline='1427352849'I will have a look through (just glanced quickly at it now) and then vote.
I wouldn't mind getting a few ancients just to impress people who think older is better. My thought was to just get a few common, cheap ones but it is still nice to know the background to any coins you have. My coin bucket list does include a silver Byzantine coin from Turkey (or region) but that probably would not be old enough to qualify as 'ancient'. I did find one in a mixed world buy once and stupidly sold it -it was only 8% silver (apparently inflation was rampant then and silver content was progressively reduced) and looked like a lightish copper alloy (which, of course, it is).
92% silver = Sterling 92% copper = Sweet Fanny Adams
Hi JeffH
Yep it is classified as ancient (generally ancients end at the end of the Western Roman Empire however the Eastern Roman Empire 'Byzantine Empire' is also classified as ancient by collectors) and the reduction in silver content is debasement of the standard. In terms of Roman/Byzantine coins a number of them were struck in bronze/copper but then given a silver wash to effectively plate them. If you are looking for some cheap ancients give Vcoins a look however ancients generally have to be imported from the US or Europe as it is still young in Australia.
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='69707' dateline='1427407405'Hi OMF
I don't collect ancients as I think it is a very specialised area (and fraught with counterfeits) but it reads Ok to me being a beginner.
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I don't quite understand this - my question is what do you have to be mindful of when being careful?
"One must also be careful to determine whether the toning is due to the environmental conditions of where it was struck or whether it is due to the different metal concentrations within the coin itself."
PS a store question - do the eagle mounts come with the myler inner liner? I can't see any details about that. I think that in the past I ordered thick for smaller coins and thin for crowns and pennies.
Another store question - I can't find any coins for sale? There are haedings & I clicked about 9 across the types but none had coins so I stopped looking. Is it right that the coins for sale are the ones on the home page but not linked to the other headings?
Hey Robbiegal
Counterfeits can be an issue however most Ancient Dealers offer Authenticity Guarantees on all coins sold so it is safe as long as you purchase from reputable dealers.
Thanks for the feedback Robbiegal on the toning it is more so an advanced counterfeit detection as each mint would generally derive their metals from a certain location with a specific impurity e.g. copper, iron. Generally these coins will tone in a certain way from internal impurities while counterfeits are generally of a finer metal concentration as such they will tone significantly differently under normal conditions. However it is important to take into account environmental conditions as certain environments can produce similar toning. (This has been clarified on the website and a future article will be written to explain this concept in detail.)
On the Store the eagle mounts do come with the mylar inner liners. Most of our products are sourced from Renniks (AUS) as such the products are exactly the same as what they offer. Certain products are sourced from either Europe or the US however these are currently unavailable due to the nature's of the products (Intercept technology is used up in storage) and extensive exchange rate changes in terms of the AUD-USD.
On the coins we had previously had issues with photographs being stretched however it has now been fixed and should now work (try Sixpence and Florins) otherwise our stock is still small however we are working on expanding it.
I would like to thank both of you for your feedback and hope to make these guides as useful to collectors as possible.