and I doubt they have a mule, let alone a pcgs graded one
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Australia-2000-One-Dollar-1-10c-Mule-Error-PCGS-AU50-/321039803779?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item4abf76a583
One day listing. Typical Ebay Christmas scam.
That's one of the mules Markn pulled out of the pokies. It sits in his collection at the bank and is certainly not for sale by whoever that eBay seller is.
This one is for sale:
eBay link (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281036261067&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT#ht_826wt_1393)
Looks like they took most of the title too.
They've changed the image, I wonder where it's been stolen from now? Is that yours now Peter?
Ive reported it. Thats a disgrace!
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='4578' dateline='1355280459'They've changed the image, I wonder where it's been stolen from now? Is that yours now Peter?
Yes that is the one I found at work. He's lifted that from the mule site..
1 day listing sold for $1,300. Buyer sees nice lustrous high grade coin, bids accordingly, receives a poor grade circulation coin. Someone isn't going to be happy.
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='4596' dateline='1355343221'1 day listing sold for $1,300. Buyer sees nice lustrous high grade coin, bids accordingly, receives a poor grade circulation coin. Someone isn't going to be happy.
Dishonest seller.
Naive buyer with feedback of 2.
Dishonest auction site. I did contact them by phone last night and ebay had the opportunaity to do something about it. They did not.
I'm not sure that he didn't buy it himself. The seller (Coins4all2012) has a seller feedback rating of 2 both to the same buyer "12muie" who coincidentally has a feedback rating of 2 which is what the successful bidder for this coin has. Both of 12muie's positive feedbacks come from .... you guessed it "Coins4all2012". "Coins4all2012" has only been an ebay member since 20/11/12 and "12muie" has also only been a member since 22/11/12.
Too much of a coincidence for me but don't know why unless he's just trying to establish himself for something bigger down the track or he was just bidding himself to get it as high as possible then will default on the purchase so he gives the second highest bidder a second chance offer.
Steve
Interesting idea Steve but the rating of 2 is almost certainly a coincidence as the winning bidder shows up as 2***2 (2) which means a feedback of 2 and two 2's in the user id. 12muie has only one 2.
I'm sure he'll also try something bigger if he gets away with this.
Quote from: 'emu666' pid='4601' dateline='1355348437'Interesting idea Steve but the rating of 2 is almost certainly a coincidence as the winning bidder shows up as 2***2 (2) which means a feedback of 2 and two 2's in the user id. 12muie has only one 2.
I'm sure he'll also try something bigger if he gets away with this.
Thanks Emu666. I don't know enough about the hidden ids to disagree too strongly. If the hidden id 2***2 shows the genuine first and last number then I'd have to agree with you.
However if you go to the 3 items 12muie has won. In all three cases the hidden id of the successful bidder (ie 12muie) is 2***2 (2).
So all of Coins4all2012's seller feedback has come from 12Muie, and
All of 12Muie's feedback has come from Coins4all2012, and
both have only been members for about 3 weeks
I still suspect they are one and the same.
Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='4603' dateline='1355350076'Quote from: 'emu666' pid='4601' dateline='1355348437'Interesting idea Steve but the rating of 2 is almost certainly a coincidence as the winning bidder shows up as 2***2 (2) which means a feedback of 2 and two 2's in the user id. 12muie has only one 2.
I'm sure he'll also try something bigger if he gets away with this.
I don't know enough about the hidden ids to disagree strongly. If the hidden id 2***2 shows the genuine first and last number then I'd have to agree with you.
However if you go to the 3 items 12muie has won. In all three cases the hidden id of the successful bidder (ie 12muie) is 2***2 (2).
I reckon you're correct. It is the same buyer.
They must have changed the way they do it.
I agree with Steveqld, the full ID's don't always contain the 2 characters that are shown in the hidden ID's. I've come across quite a few instances where only one original character is represented.
If the item is offered to the underbidder y***n, he/she should get it for their first bid prior to when 2***2 started pushing up the price, ie $744, a big difference to $1300. No-one else was bidding except those 2 after it reached $744. It will be interesting to see who leaves FB for it, my guess is no-one will due to the extremely dodgy nature of the whole deal. :dodgy:
I wonder if the seller even has a mule.
I doubt they even have a mule. I would guess they have rocked up on the ebay scene with the idea of taking someones money. Lets hope the buyer pays with paypal. if they pay with bank deposit theyre screwed.
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='4618' dateline='1355365686'I doubt they even have a mule. I would guess they have rocked up on the ebay scene with the idea of taking someones money. Lets hope the buyer pays with paypal. if they pay with bank deposit theyre screwed.
If they've paid by paypal they are equally screwed. All the seller has to do is transfer the money to his bank account and then close the account.
Paypal will still refund the money to the buyer and then pursue the account holder through debt collectors
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='4622' dateline='1355374918'Paypal will still refund the money to the buyer and then pursue the account holder through debt collectors
No they will only refund the money they can access.
They don't use their own funds for refunds
50 Lashes.!
Quote50 Lashes.!
Not good enough , "hang em high" .
Not a real sale, what is going on.
Dodgy (http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItems&userid=12muie&completed=1&all=1&rows=25&sort=3&_rdc=1)
This is the wording from this *****'s ebay sale:
very Rare Collector item 2000 1 dollar mule
I have 3 of these 2000 1 dollar mules so i will be listing other 2 shortley keep an eye out
Direct Deposit preferred!!!!!!
This is the wording from ebay item 140897393100 put up by Ebay user 111bmw1(1) (His 1 feedback was left by an opal salesman at Lightning Ridge Emu192)
very Rare Collector item 2000 1 dollar mule
I have 3 of these 2000 1 dollar mules so i will be listing other 2 shortley keep an eye out
Direct Deposit preferred!!!!!!
Apparently the image for this mule was stolen as well. It's currently a conversation on another coin forum.:dodgy::dodgy::dodgy:
Yes that last mule was a picture of mine and I harassed him and so did a few others and he finally ended the listing
Mark and I and the tribe were at an event put on by the local council at the Rec Centre this afternoon. It was a 1980's roller disco, but, as it was funded by council (a history event apparently) it not only included wild hair, legwarmers and Cindy Lauper but what kept us occupied was a slideshow of images and a DJ voiceover of highlights of each year in the 80's through the 3 hour event. Whilst Mark was reminded of his first cassette purchase "Choose '85", the wedding of Scott and Charlene etc etc *yawn* a couple of images scrolled around including the bicentennial note, the 1988 dollar and what do you know our own image of the Chuck and Di 50c. It was very surprising to see how far a googled stolen image can go!
You had better send the council a bill for use of your image. Make it out for the same amount as your council rates. :)
Sounds like a great event PPH!
A mate and me started up Roller Hockey in our town back in the early 80's, that was a blast at the time!
Mark's arcade machine would not have been out of place at the event.
I bet you just about fell over when you saw your coin though, lol!
I recently read about "reverse image search", so I decided to give it a go. It allows you to find your images that might be being used elsewhere on the internet. As I knew one of the members here had used one of my images for his avatar, and that was fine by me, I thought I would search that image.
This is my image....
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/2015_New_Zealand_ANZAC_50c~0.jpg)
and this is what I found...
A stamp forum (I don't mind that).
http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=62315
An Ebay seller
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NZ-New-Zealand-1st-Ever-Coloured-Coin-Anzac-Australia-50c-Coin-Unc-2015-/221750827938?hash=item33a1611ba2:g:dkIAAOSwv0tVNh~G
Another Ebay seller
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NOUVELLE-ZELANDE-Piece-Commemorative-50-Cents-SPIRIT-OF-ANZAC-2015-Neuve-/121854900321?hash=item1c5f1e3861
More worrying, a reputable coin store. you would think they could take their own pics.
http://www.wynyardcoins.com.au/shop/world-coins/new-zealand/new-zealand-2015-50c-anzac-coloured-unc/
If you use the small rim nicks at 12oclock on your image as a reference you will see that only the first eBay seller has stolen your image.
The other images and coins are different :ok:
Both look the same to me Jim. Check out the rim dent at 6 o'clock between the C and the E.
Also little marks on the rim near the first "I" in SPIRIT. Also a knock on the smaller inner rim
between the A and N of ANZAC.
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='99925' dateline='1476359355'Both look the same to me Jim. Check out the rim dent at 6 o'clock between the C and the E.
Also little marks on the rim near the first "I" in SPIRIT. Also a knock on the smaller inner rim
between the A and N of ANZAC.
OK no worries
Quote from: 'trout' pid='99924' dateline='1476358889'The other images and coins are different :ok:
Just cropped tighter. Same image.
So, did you contact the vendors and complain, Steve?
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='99932' dateline='1476362287'Quote from: 'trout' pid='99924' dateline='1476358889'The other images and coins are different :ok:
Just cropped tighter. Same image.
So, did you contact the vendors and complain, Steve?
No, don't know that it would do any good.
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='99942' dateline='1476396091'No, don't know that it would do any good.
Not with the ebayers maybe, but the shop might change their ways.
Heck, we could all ring them and have a whinge. ;)
On the phone with Joe at Wynyard having a chat, and he's happy to credit you if you would give him a ring.
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='99950' dateline='1476409826'Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='99942' dateline='1476396091'No, don't know that it would do any good.
Not with the ebayers maybe, but the shop might change their ways.
Heck, we could all ring them and have a whinge. ;)
On the phone with Joe at Wynyard having a chat, and he's happy to credit you if you would give him a ring.
Thanks mate. I sent him an email. :)
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='99957' dateline='1476434522'Thanks mate. I sent him an email. :)
Cool. Now good luck with the others. ;)
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='99959' dateline='1476434575'Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='99957' dateline='1476434522'Thanks mate. I sent him an email. :)
Cool. Now good luck with the others. ;)
Just sent them messages too, just for sh*ts and giggles to see what happens.
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='99962' dateline='1476435177'Just sent them messages too, just for sh*ts and giggles to see what happens.
(http://cleaner-and-launderer.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Facebook-Like_zpszniov66a-1.png)
One of the Ebayers was very nice about it and has changed his pic already.
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='99967' dateline='1476442628'One of the Ebayers was very nice about it and has changed his pic already.
That is a very different outcome to what Jen experienced earlier this year :good: