Hi All.
Came across this strange error on the Purple $2 Coronation Coin.
On the Mintmark coin on the left side there is a dot and the right a C
On the circulated coin there is a dot on the left and the right.
I came across that has no mintmark but only 1 dot on the left. There is nothing where the C or the dot should be. It is in the pack of 5 coins that were available from the mint when first released.
Has anyone else come across this.
Any chance of some images to show us what to look for?
What you describe above is exactly what I have on my two coins.
These are the way they were issued.
Sorry, no errors but normal markings.
Quote from: 'petpat' pid='69166' dateline='1426499454'There is nothing where the C or the dot should be.
Sounds like a die fill, reinforced by the fact Goldy has some too.
Piccies please.
No die fill just normal minting.
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='69345' dateline='1426760901'No die fill just normal minting.
If that should be the case, then it would be a die variation, perhaps intended for the portable press and used accidentally.
We need to get these under a scope. You up for a visit, Goldy? Or maybe wanna drive over to Mt Waverley tomorrow afternoon after 2pm? There's a http://micom.asn.au/ meeting where there will be lots of computers and an internet connection, and I have to be there anyway for a committee meeting. And with free trains for us old folk... ;)
I find it difficult to take pictures very close up and through cellophane even more difficult, but I have highlighted as indicated.
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='69167' dateline='1426503092'Any chance of some images to show us what to look for?
Quote from: 'petpat' pid='69428' dateline='1426914530'I find it difficult to take pictures very close up and through cellophane even more difficult, but I have highlighted as indicated.
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='69167' dateline='1426503092'Any chance of some images to show us what to look for?
Yep they are a right royal pain to image : :angel:
Also from the 5 coin "Mini Bag"
(Only 1 coin from the Two Bags I recieved, worth a recheck)
All 10 coins were rubbish strikes and poor paint application. :diablo:
Standard $2 Coronation Reverse(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/ACF%20Odd%20Stuff/IMG_0006-800_zps1o8uix2f.jpg)
Missing Seperator Dot Reverse(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/ACF%20Odd%20Stuff/IMG_0002_No%20Dot-800_zpsp8y1kj3l.jpg)
Close Up of area, No sign of Die Fill(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/ACF%20Odd%20Stuff/IMG_0002_No%20Dot-crop-crop_zpspeezglej.jpg)
Thank you
petpat
Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='69431' dateline='1426915775'Close Up of area, No sign of Die Fill
OoooohAhhhhhh!!!!
Looks like we have a winner! This would be the first variety on a $2 coin, yes? Assuming you don't count the C mintmark BS of course... :diablo:
Um, I beg your forgiveness as I misread your first entry. I retract in full my previous comments re this missing dot.
I shall now have to check my packet(s) that I have put away somewhere.
Nothing to apologise for Goldseeker.
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='69434' dateline='1426918488'Um, I beg your forgiveness as I misread your first entry. I retract in full my previous comments re this missing dot.
I shall now have to check my packet(s) that I have put away somewhere.
Thanks petpat for showing us that we are indeed looking for a variety, not an error. Thanks go to FP as well. :yahoo:
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='69432' dateline='1426915973'Looks like we have a winner! This would be the first variety on a $2 coin, yes?
Don't forget the 1999 and 2001 portrait sizes.
Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='69473' dateline='1426986864'Don't forget the 1999 and 2001 portrait sizes.
What? :dodgy:
Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='69431' dateline='1426915775'Quote from: 'petpat' pid='69428' dateline='1426914530'I find it difficult to take pictures very close up and through cellophane even more difficult, but I have highlighted as indicated.
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='69167' dateline='1426503092'Any chance of some images to show us what to look for?
Yep they are a right royal pain to image : :angel:
Very nice fordprefect and petpat :wavemulticolor:
Also from the 5 coin "Mini Bag"
(Only 1 coin from the Two Bags I recieved, worth a recheck)
All 10 coins were rubbish strikes and poor paint application. :diablo:
Standard $2 Coronation Reverse
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/ACF%20Odd%20Stuff/IMG_0006-800_zps1o8uix2f.jpg)
Missing Seperator Dot Reverse
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/ACF%20Odd%20Stuff/IMG_0002_No%20Dot-800_zpsp8y1kj3l.jpg)
Close Up of area, No sign of Die Fill
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/ACF%20Odd%20Stuff/IMG_0002_No%20Dot-crop-crop_zpspeezglej.jpg)
Thank you petpat
Hmmm...It kinda makes me wonder if the dot was left off deliberately so they could put the various mint marks in that position and some of the coins destined for MM's escaped and joined the rest of the flock.
Could anyone who has some MM coins please have a really close look at the MM and see if there's any sign of the Dot under the MM, then let us all know the outcome. :beg:
I stopped collecting MM coins a few years back, so I have none to examine. :angel:
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='69511' dateline='1427063888'Hmmm...It kinda makes me wonder if the dot was left off deliberately so they could put the various mint marks in that position and some of the coins destined for MM's escaped and joined the rest of the flock.
Yeah, but was there actually a $2 MYO? They've all been $1 AFAIK.
Maybe this was something they intended to do, and screwed up. :blackeye:
I thought I'd seen an image of one with a C in that position so I assumed there were others.
Can anyone please shed some more light on this?
See Post #42 by PPH in this thread:
http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=1252
This is from Wiki:
St Edward's Crown surrounded by purple coloured royalty stripes, with 'C' mintmark
See an image here:
http://www.newcastlecoins.com.au/index1.html?5072.html&1
QuoteMaybe this was something they intended to do, and screwed up.
The Royal Australian Mint :swoon:-never:exclamation:
The C mintmark coin is struck with dies with the "C" incorporated in them.
They don't go through a second striking to add the mintmark.
There were no Portable Press applications for this coin, so there was no need
for a third reverse die,sans No Seperator dot reverse die.
Although I have examined this coin at 200X magnification and could not see
any sign of Die Fill, I do believe it is Die Fill that has produced this "Error" and
not a Third Reverse Die variety.
Just my thoughts, it actually reminds me of the '43 Missing "I" penny.
Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='69525' dateline='1427070808'The C mintmark coin is struck with dies with the "C" incorporated in them. They don't go through a second striking to add the mintmark.
There were no Portable Press applications for this coin, so there was no need
for a third reverse die,sans No Seperator dot reverse die.
Although I have examined this coin at 200X magnification and could not see
any sign of Die Fill, I do believe it is Die Fill that has produced this "Error" and
not a Third Reverse Die variety.
Just my thoughts, it actually reminds me of the '43 Missing "I" penny.
Thanks FP, some info I was not aware of, or if I was ever aware of it, I'd forgotten.
So we are back to an error. :good:
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='69527' dateline='1427071812'So we are back to an error. :good:
I think so.
What I would like to see turn up is the coin with
a partial die fill of the "Dot".
This would reinforce the Die Fill theory.
Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='69529' dateline='1427073760'What I would like to see turn up is the coin with
a partial die fill of the "Dot".
This would reinforce the Die Fill theory.
Time to start compiling an album of close-ups of all known examples, eh?
Well, start one on this forum.
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='69502' dateline='1427019304'Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='69473' dateline='1426986864'Don't forget the 1999 and 2001 portrait sizes.
What? :dodgy:
The 1999 legend can close or far to the rim and the 2001 coins are similar though more easy to distinguish by the presence or absence of serifs on the IRB.
Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='69752' dateline='1427508488'The 1999 legend can close or far to the rim and the 2001 coins are similar though more easy to distinguish by the presence or absence of serifs on the IRB.
On the $2? Since when?
I think there's been a footnote in McDonld's for a few years at least.
I've never found a circulating purple $2
Which one is rarer the 2 dot or 1 dot?
Quote from: 'runway' pid='69770' dateline='1427550785'Which one is rarer the 2 dot or 1 dot?
The one dot by the looks of it.
Double dot is the one in circulation Single Dot is the scarce one.
Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='69779' dateline='1427613039'Quote from: 'runway' pid='69770' dateline='1427550785'Which one is rarer the 2 dot or 1 dot?
The one dot by the looks of it.