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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Pre-Decimal Coins => Topic started by: nealeffendi on January 14, 2015, 04:44:52 PM

Title: Hijacked eBay account
Post by: nealeffendi on January 14, 2015, 04:44:52 PM
Looks like another dormant account has been hijacked. Item 111573247734 (a very nice Canberra florin) has photos pinched from another seller (an honest seller in South Australia that I recently purchased a 34/35 florin from).
magnoliasinthemeadow is probably hijacked as no feedback for 12 months except 2 recent low value tea towels. Only 2 bidders so far (and the underbidder might be a shill with a feedback of 1).
I've already let the real seller know of the fake seller.
How many other accounts have been hijacked and what do we pay our police for?
Title: RE: Hijacked eBay account
Post by: Australian coin on January 14, 2015, 09:21:58 PM
der if you think its fake give ebay a call, I think the real police have better thing to do than play on ebay
seriously
Title: RE: Hijacked eBay account
Post by: nealeffendi on January 14, 2015, 09:44:40 PM
Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='65292' dateline='1421232718'der if you think its fake give ebay a call, I think the real police have better thing to do than play on ebay
seriously

Seriously the real police need to get their fingers out and deal with fraud.   Fleabay have been notified by others of a number of instances of hijacked accounts and still the con men are operating.
Title: RE: Hijacked eBay account
Post by: Fulvio on January 15, 2015, 01:36:49 AM
Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='65292' dateline='1421232718'I think the real police have better thing to do than play on ebay
seriously

Yeah, like trolling Twitter and FailBook pretending to be underage girls.. can't believe they have a whole squad working full time on that. :(
Title: RE: Hijacked eBay account
Post by: robbiegal on January 15, 2015, 07:34:33 AM
they have caught some very bad bastards doing that Fulvio
protecting our kids is far more important to me than chasing ebay scammers over a common old 1927 PH florin

anyways, I don't get the account highjacked theory anyways
Title: RE: Hijacked eBay account
Post by: nealeffendi on January 15, 2015, 09:25:46 AM
Scammers find an account with a feedback in the 100s or 1,000s that has at/near 100% positive feedback but no feedback in the past year. That means the seller is inactive and probably not monitoring their account (possibly retired, emigrated, started a new account, in a nursing home or deceased).
BINGO! says the crook. They hack the account and represent it as theirs. They also change the account payment details and offer things like free postage if paying by direct deposit. List some items (often with borrowed images) and get the money. Even with Paypal many buyers might not realise the seller is buying for time (30 days?) by saying the item is on its way or the seller is relying on many people not keeping track of what they have purchased and not realising an item never arrived.
In this particular case the real owner of the coin has thanked me for the heads up and has sent the other guy a message about the stolen images.
Title: RE: Hijacked eBay account
Post by: robbiegal on January 15, 2015, 09:44:47 AM
Oh bad news & good to know about it
as I had left my account sitting for a fair while

so they must change the password and account details - so the rightful owner is effectively locked out?

sounds a bit like those housing scams where the house deed title is 'sold' and all ownership is transferred to a 'new owner'. All done by internet and phone calls and bingo - the rightful owner is literally locked out and has lost the home (read about that scam happening recently in WA with rental properties) - very nasty business
Title: RE: Hijacked eBay account
Post by: nealeffendi on January 15, 2015, 11:29:18 AM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='65318' dateline='1421277287'Oh bad news & good to know about it
as I had left my account sitting for a fair while

so they must change the password and account details - so the rightful owner is effectively locked out?

sounds a bit like those housing scams where the house deed title is 'sold' and all ownership is transferred to a 'new owner'. All done by internet and phone calls and bingo - the rightful owner is literally locked out and has lost the home (read about that scam happening recently in WA with rental properties) - very nasty business

That scam (housing  theft) doesn't just happen via the internet and has happened in Sydney as well.  If the title deeds are transferred and the property sold the new owner becomes the legal owner and the old owner has to try to get compensation from the thief (even if you can identify who they are they are often beyond reach as they have returned to Lebanon and other countries).
The scammers start out small (buy some items on sleezebay and then claim the item never arrived) and then gain experience in identity theft and other fraud. Someday Australian Coin might become a victim of the fraud they dismiss as unworthy of police action. Those of us who have been victims already might just experience schadenfreude.
Title: RE: Hijacked eBay account
Post by: Basil on January 16, 2015, 09:29:11 AM
There is another scam that has operated in Sydney & Melbourne where the scammers ID prestige properties for sale then pretend they are acting for the Owner and try to sell  them to unsuspecting buyers using methods that the Police keep quiet.Basically they are after the deposit payment they con out of suckers who think they are getting a great deal so the actual Owner,who doesn't know whats going on,is not involved in any way and still owns the property.