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The latest copy of the Australasian Coin & Banknote Magazine
volume 7 number 11 the 2014 year book issue.
Price $10.50
Now apart from advertisements & auctions there is only14 pages dedicated to Australian coins & I think I might have been a bit generous, because I included the proclamation coins story 6 & one half pages long.
I didn't include the stories about the Bench mark collection as that was just an add for IAG even thought the coins are beautiful.
In the editors note John goes on to say he had so much good material that he had to leave a lot out.
Maybe he left out articles about Australian coins?
I know this is the only magazine we have & we must support it.
Plus it must be hard to fill up every month.
There is 28 full page advertisements I didn't add up the quarter page adds.
I didn't find a lot of reading in this double issue I would have been lucky to get an hours reading out of it.

Recently I enquired about submitting a (research type) article and received no response.
Zip.
I wonder if other potential contributors have had the same expereince.

My understanding is that John does everything (manages, edits, advertisers, subscriptions etc) alone.
That makes it hard for him to  organise the articles/deal with potential writers as well as could be hoped. The move this year also added to his burden and let a few things slip through the cracks (I'll bet echidna had a cracker of an article). The ideal article is one that is finished, edited, contains images and is in a format compatible with Johns system.
The ads is what keeps the magazine at a reasonable price and most of the ads are relevant to our collecting habit. The downside is that John has to keep the advertisers onside so many of the articles cover things that the advertisers are involved in and may well be written in part by the advertisers (auctions and new releases reads like advertorials)
I do agree that the Benchmark collection "article" was more advertisement than anything and I also wish there was more on Aussie pre decimal coins and less on everything else (especially the grannybait coins).
Perhaps a few of us should send letters to the editor requesting more pre decimal articles?

the answer is simple , do what i did about 7 years ago STOP buying it

I told Ian about my bubble coin and sent one and he said he had a lot of articles to do so the story wouldn't get in the mag for about 18 months and that was about a year or so ago so you can't rush these thing and if you wouldn't mind echi would it at all be possible to post it here or PM me it, as I for one would be most interested in your thoughts and they might start doing the right thing by us if they stop getting info from us.

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:swoon: over $10 now, gee they've gone up a bit in price from my last one in 08 that I got from the grafton mall newsagent for the sum of $3.75 and they wonder why we stop buying things in australia, getting to dear to live here so I might have to become a boat person so where can I go...besides hell :winkextra:

I myself have never bought the magazine. I have read it a couple of time at doctors appointments (in the magazine collection) and I've found that there was a lack of information that I consider useful or interesting for my collecting.

I have also found that a lot of the information can be out of date compared to online blogs/forums.

I would still consider buying an individual issue if I heard there was a topic of interest.

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='64541' dateline='1419863279'My understanding is that John does everything (manages, edits, advertisers, subscriptions etc) alone.
That makes it hard for him to  organise the articles/deal with potential writers as well as could be hoped. The move this year also added to his burden and let a few things slip through the cracks (I'll bet echidna had a cracker of an article). The ideal article is one that is finished, edited, contains images and is in a format compatible with Johns system.
The ads is what keeps the magazine at a reasonable price and most of the ads are relevant to our collecting habit. The downside is that John has to keep the advertisers onside so many of the articles cover things that the advertisers are involved in and may well be written in part by the advertisers (auctions and new releases reads like advertorials)
I do agree that the Benchmark collection "article" was more advertisement than anything and I also wish there was more on Aussie pre decimal coins and less on everything else (especially the grannybait coins).
Perhaps a few of us should send letters to the editor requesting more pre decimal articles?

I fully understand the fact that the adds help pay for the mag have no problem with that.
The fact that the cost was $10.50 is because it's a double issue, that is not the normal monthly price.
The letters to the Editor is now the best part of the magazine & some months that is not always there.
I wouldn't care if he rehashed articles from several years back, they are often still pertinent today.

Gee I don't know if to keep them or take them to the Dr's and maybe help get someone else interested. Does mean I'll have more competition and don't know if that's a good thing :scratch_one-s_head:

I have to buy it each month as I never know until perhaps years later that an article that seemed unimportant at the time contains information that I need.
Only started collecting Centenary Florins 6 months ago and I now have the August '07 issue close at hand for regular referral. I'd be up a creek without a paddle if I hadn't purchased it back then.
Down the track when your collecting focus changes it is so nice to have the back issues to refer to.
Blogs only go so far in providing information and being electronic they can vanish leaving no trace. For some information on 1920 pennies I was lucky to print off a hard copy years ago from a forum that no longer exists. Other ephemeral information I'll now never get to print and only my notes remain.
You cannot rely on public libraries to keep old material either as many have cleared out their shelves or worse yet have taken microfiche copies and pulped the originals. As a numismatologist I don't know how many times I've found they missed pages when scanning thousands of old newspapers and the missing pages are the ones I want. Or they do a half arsed job (for example the earliest reference to the 1930 penny was in a Sydney newspaper that is now just a fuzzy mess on microfiche).
If we don't buy the magazine then it will shut down. Then we will only have ACF and CCF to get information that isn't dependant on dealers sites.
One good Chinese (North Korean/CIA) hack and it will be gone.

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='64573' dateline='1419896868'I have to buy it each month as I never know until perhaps years later that an article that seemed unimportant at the time contains information that I need.
Only started collecting Centenary Florins 6 months ago and I now have the August '07 issue close at hand for regular referral. I'd be up a creek without a paddle if I hadn't purchased it back then.
Down the track when your collecting focus changes it is so nice to have the back issues to refer to.
Blogs only go so far in providing information and being electronic they can vanish leaving no trace. For some information on 1920 pennies I was lucky to print off a hard copy years ago from a forum that no longer exists. Other ephemeral information I'll now never get to print and only my notes remain.
You cannot rely on public libraries to keep old material either as many have cleared out their shelves or worse yet have taken microfiche copies and pulped the originals. As a numismatologist I don't know how many times I've found they missed pages when scanning thousands of old newspapers and the missing pages are the ones I want. Or they do a half arsed job (for example the earliest reference to the 1930 penny was in a Sydney newspaper that is now just a fuzzy mess on microfiche).
If we don't buy the magazine then it will shut down. Then we will only have ACF and CCF to get information that isn't dependant on dealers sites.
One good Chinese (North Korean/CIA) hack and it will be gone.

Yes I agree with all that, & I would hate to see it disappear, as it's our only mag & often a very good read.
This isn't the first one I've bought as I have a 2 & a half foot stack of them which I often like you refer back to.
So I keep buying them, but now I look to see if there is anything in them of interest to me before buying.

Good point, thanks Neal I'll be keeping mine.

Hmmmm...come on echidna, post your contibution here, a few months ago I remember you committing to do that. :)

I buy the mag. religiously each month always in the hope it will contain an article that aligns with my narrow collecting theme ie. predecimal coins, some decimal coins, and varieties of both. There is a monthly contribution that concentrates on blob, crack and error finds that are of interest, but unfortunately for me, a never ending saga of these types of varieties just doesn't do it. But that's just me.

I realise there are many diverse interests for the mag. to report about, and there's certainly no shortage of subjects covered, albeit on occasions by a minimum of contibutors. My problem is, very few of the aticles have any relevance to my interests, and too many in my opinion concentrate on subjects of foriegn origin, but then again that's just me talking.

It's good to hear there is a backlog of material, and I will continue to support the mag. as it's well produced and the only one we have.

I now have a quick flick through the mag before I buy as well as it can just sit on the table at home unread
they have always featured the auction houses as these auctions often have a rare and interesting coins for public display

we used to subscribe and that works out cheaper if you have issues with cost
I find them better value than the women's magazines (unless they have freebees with the purchase)

ps
you can nip down to the Australian national library for a read of back issues!
http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/3001252

For NOW you can nip down to Canberra and read back issues, but for how long? Also it is a hike to Canberra (especially for those like Trout who are a long way away or for any of you who are getting to old to travel). They also have back issues in the State Library of NSW, they used to get 5 or more numismatic publications and this is one of only 2 they get now.
I have a brother who was a librarian for many years. Libraries are laying off staff in large numbers (one university got rid of 70 librarians recently to cut costs) and they are slashing the numbers of journals they subscribe to as another cost cutting measure.
He has told me of some obscure publications that he needs for his research (early Biblical manuscripts) and he hates it when the only copy in an Australian library is disposed of.
Generalist readers probably don't know it but 90% of books are not on Kindle, Amazon or blogs and that probably also applies to most numismatic knowledge.

Well I have to admit that I subscribe to it for $82 per year and look forward to receiving it each month.

I read it from cover to cover , you never know what you are going to learn.  Do not look at most ads unless it looks interesting.

Good to give support to an Australian published magazine.

I have bought every issue since 2003
Although not every article is interesting to me I do enjoy the anticipation of every magazine
Some excellent articles and contributors

Wow runway that's a fair few books but be good to be able to refer back to if need be.

Sometimes I pick up an issue a few months old cheaply ($2-$3) from Downies at Sydney Town Hall. Good if you are keen on only the articles rather than the other more time sensitive info. Of course there is no guarantee they have any stock left.

I bought the February edition Volume 18 number 1 RRP $8.50
It contains 84 pages
I can find five & a half pages on Australian coins two of these pages were devoted to the mint.
Five pages were devoted to Australian notes.
I am being very generous with counts.
It's called Australian Coin & Banknote Incorporating Australian Coin Review

I don't mind the adds they help pay for the cost's & it couldn't be produced just on sales revenue.

I used to subscribe for several years, I kept  issues in monthly lots
So when I got February for example, I would look back at old February mags & so on.

But the lack of Australian content has unfortunately turned me off the magazine. I know it's a pity but I only got 15 minutes reading out of this issue.
There is 7 pages devoted to Goat coins, 7 pages.
Here is my last issue. But I will be sad if it ever fold as I used to look forward to getting it each month.

As the co founder and editor of the CAB magazine way back in 1996 I'm here to tell you that John does a fabulous and largely unsung job on producing a world class publication month after month.  Trust me when I say that this is no 40 hour a week job and the grief that goes on behind the scenes chasing up late adverts one minute and trying to convince the printer you will meet the deadline the next.  I know John gets dozens of phone calls every month from people just asking general questions. John takes it all in his stride regardless of the stresses and pressures going on around him. It's also an impossible task to always have a magazine full of the type of articles that are of immediate interest ... however, as mentioned earlier, tastes change and you might have a completely different appreciation when you pick up the magazine in a few years time.
I've got to say I think the whole concept of this forum is fantastic and I intend to shortly thank the members who have recently assisted me.  However I feel that some comments come from the hip without knowing all the facts. Apart from PNC King (who is a know-all with a negative opinion on everything. I really believe you when you say you haven't read the magazine in 7 years ) I don't think these are posted in a malicious way. But you have to be careful about what you wish for...
Where would we be without the CAB magazine?  A subscription to the CAB magazine equates to a couple of coffees, beers a month..... come on, it's peanuts.
I believe that if you enjoy an activity you have to do all you can (or afford) to grow the hobby. I haven't done a coin show since 1999 but I still pay my $330 a year to be a member of ANDA because I believe its a positive that needs support.
I think we can all fall into the trap where we can get complacent when we get a good service and we start to expect more for less.  I can remember showing the unpublished manuscript of the 1st edition of my pocketbook to a dealer whose opinion I still respect 23 years later.  He told me to reduce the amount of detail and, in particular, get rid of the "footnotes".  He argued that "people won't thank you for the extra information, they'll criticise you for what you leave out."
Support CAB.  It's not just a magazine but the hard graft of a seriously nice bloke who has given more to numismatics than he has taken from it.

He argued that "people won't thank you for the extra information,

I can't speak for anyone else but thank you very much for the footnotes Greg as I find them not only interesting but also very informative and have used them heaps, and thanks for all the effort you put in, I for one appreciate it very much :hi:

Hi Ausjack,

Thanks for the kind comments.  You've been a great supporter over the years.  If it's OK I'd like to call you again to run a few things past you.  I liked your ideas on the last project and I've got a few other things regarding the decimals for the next edition. I like the way you think.

Let me know if its convenient ... probably later in the week.  Can you also resend me a private message with your address.  I want to send you sections of the manuscript for your thoughts.

Cheers

Greg

PS :  Regarding my last post.  I don't want anyone to over think what I said. Basically what I am saying that for a very modest amount every month you are supporting a very well put together publication.  That's not to say that many of the comments were not without merit.  I agree that seven pages devoted to one topic (unless it is previously unpublished material of an historical nature) is overkill.  Reading trends are changing and because of the electronic age the attention span of many readers has shrunk enormously. If you cannot tell it in a few paragraphs, forget it.

It's up to the moderators and John of course but I would think a "best of" from this forum would make a fantastic monthly column.
I've just learned about three PNC issues I didn't know existed and some of the other information from members is really 1st class.
Most of the information is short and to the point and any mistakes are quickly corrected by another member and there are enough topics to please all readers.  Not only will this help John to include more variety in the magazine but the publicity would surely attract more collectors to the forum.  Win, win I think

Some merit in that idea.

Hello Greg,

Mate your most very welcome and thank you very much for your kind words, I really appreciate it and it would be my pleasure if I can help in anyway so you can call me any time as I'm here most of the time and if not I can always call you back..at a respectable hour :) Sending PM now :good:

Quote from: 'Greg McDonald' pid='67484' dateline='1424647638'As the co founder and editor of the CAB magazine way back in 1996 I'm here to tell you that John does a fabulous and largely unsung job on producing a world class publication month after month.  Trust me when I say that this is no 40 hour a week job and the grief that goes on behind the scenes chasing up late adverts one minute and trying to convince the printer you will meet the deadline the next.  I know John gets dozens of phone calls every month from people just asking general questions. John takes it all in his stride regardless of the stresses and pressures going on around him. It's also an impossible task to always have a magazine full of the type of articles that are of immediate interest ... however, as mentioned earlier, tastes change and you might have a completely different appreciation when you pick up the magazine in a few years time.
I've got to say I think the whole concept of this forum is fantastic and I intend to shortly thank the members who have recently assisted me.  However I feel that some comments come from the hip without knowing all the facts. Apart from PNC King (who is a know-all with a negative opinion on everything. I really believe you when you say you haven't read the magazine in 7 years ) I don't think these are posted in a malicious way. But you have to be careful about what you wish for...
Where would we be without the CAB magazine?  A subscription to the CAB magazine equates to a couple of coffees, beers a month..... come on, it's peanuts.
I believe that if you enjoy an activity you have to do all you can (or afford) to grow the hobby. I haven't done a coin show since 1999 but I still pay my $330 a year to be a member of ANDA because I believe its a positive that needs support.
I think we can all fall into the trap where we can get complacent when we get a good service and we start to expect more for less.  I can remember showing the unpublished manuscript of the 1st edition of my pocketbook to a dealer whose opinion I still respect 23 years later.  He told me to reduce the amount of detail and, in particular, get rid of the "footnotes".  He argued that "people won't thank you for the extra information, they'll criticise you for what you leave out."
Support CAB.  It's not just a magazine but the hard graft of a seriously nice bloke who has given more to numismatics than he has taken from it.

I agree with most of what you have said, John is a seriously nice bloke, yep met him at ANDA shows to renew my subscription, I know he works hard to keep MAG going in this time when magazine subscriptions are falling all over the world. I have been a supporter of the MAG for a long time. But there is becoming less & less in it that is of interest to me, bloody shame I used to look forwards to getting it.
But I'm not going to keep buying it because John is a good bloke. I don't buy 4X4 mags or cooking mags because there is nothing of interest in them for me.

I've been buying the Mag. since 2003 or 4, and as I said in a previous post in this thread, will keep supporting it even though the content of late doesn't align a great deal with my collecting interest.

There must be some great articles of Aussie origin hidden away in the archives at CAB, why not resurrect some of the earlier offerings that many buyers of CAB would have never seen.

Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='67549' dateline='1424699433'I've been buying the Mag. since 2003 or 4, and as I said in a previous post in this thread, will keep supporting it even though the content of late doesn't align a great deal with my collecting interest.

There must be some great articles of Aussie origin hidden away in the archives at CAB, why not resurrect some of the earlier offerings that many buyers of CAB would have never seen.

To do that would reduce the value of both the back issues that CAB still sells and reduce the value of the copies held by the loyal long time buyers. Also those who already have the old issues don't want to pay for a repeat of what they have.
Perhaps it would be better if some of those articles were thoroughly updated to suit both the old and new buyers of CAB.

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='67567' dateline='1424753576'To do that would reduce the value of both the back issues that CAB still sells and reduce the value of the copies held by the loyal long time buyers. Also those who already have the old issues don't want to pay for a repeat of what they have.
Perhaps it would be better if some of those articles were thoroughly updated to suit both the old and new buyers of CAB.

So be it. If that's what it takes to attract new entrants to the hobby or indeed satisfy current readers, who cares about values of old copies. Apparently some of the long term readership are taking to the life rafts, what is needed is lots of interesting local content to woo and satisfy the new blood and not so new blood.

They could publish my 2012 bubble as I sent Ian one so they can get a decent pic for the article.

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Hopefully it's getting close to being published but I think it will be the last time I do anything like that as it takes to long, it's been ages but he did say about 14 months or longer :(

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Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='67567' dateline='1424753576'To do that would reduce the value of both the back issues that CAB still sells and reduce the value of the copies held by the loyal long time buyers. Also those who already have the old issues don't want to pay for a repeat of what they have.
Perhaps it would be better if some of those articles were thoroughly updated to suit both the old and new buyers of CAB.

So be it. If that's what it takes to attract new entrants to the hobby or indeed satisfy current readers, who cares about values of old copies. Apparently some of the long term readership are taking to the life rafts, what is needed is lots of interesting local content to woo and satisfy the new blood and not so new blood.

Could not agree more. It needs a lot more local content.
It could a good mag,, just needs a bit of tweeking, then I would go back to it.

I think its a great Mag and a subscriber. Someone mentioned to me while back that there was a write up on the 27 Canberra Florin in an older issue of CAB. I emailed John to ask which issue this was in but didn't hear back from him, but also didn't realise how much work he does and must be very busy which is fine. Just wondering does anyone know what issue this might of been in please, TIA.

Quote from: 'proof27' pid='72733' dateline='1432125303'I think its a great Mag and a subscriber. Someone mentioned to me while back that there was a write up on the 27 Canberra Florin in an older issue of CAB. I emailed John to ask which issue this was in but didn't hear back from him, but also didn't realise how much work he does and must be very busy which is fine. Just wondering does anyone know what issue this might of been in please, TIA.

Sel691 from ccf sent me the pages from this issue a couple of years ago.
It is the February 2007 edition :ok:

Thanks Trout.

Would anyone have this issue that I could buy of them ?

By my recollection drake sterling he the article on his website

Quote from: 'proof27' pid='72766' dateline='1432170342'Would anyone have this issue that I could buy of them ?

Direct link to the PDF Article stored on my Dropbox.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xf7ghxnccz9u00n/CAB%201927%20Proof.pdf?dl=0

Another link to the same article if the above link dosn't work.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55638309/CAB%201927%20Proof.pdf

There was nothing there FP and the link wanted me to sign up :(

Same for me, but all I had to do was type in my name and the article opened up.

Cool, thanks for fixing the link and don't ya just love some of the toning on some of those coins, the purples and orange are so vibrant :drooling:

Great article. Thanks for sharing. :good:

Thanks Ford, that's fantastic:good:
What a beautiful looking coin, especially proof.

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Quote from: 'proof27' pid='72766' dateline='1432170342'Would anyone have this issue that I could buy of them ?

Direct link to the PDF Article stored on my Dropbox.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xf7ghxnccz9u00n/CAB%201927%20Proof.pdf?dl=0

Another link to the same article if the above link dosn't work.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55638309/CAB%201927%20Proof.pdf

thanks Fordie - I just saved myself a copy

The Australasian Coin & Banknote Magazine has Copyright and as such publishing or copying / reproducing in any way in part of full is prohibited by International Law.
Jon has been made aware of such breaches so best not scan or copy anything even in cloud

Quote from: 'runway' pid='73449' dateline='1432998559'The Australasian Coin & Banknote Magazine has Copyright and as such publishing or copying / reproducing in any way in part of full is prohibited by International Law.
Jon has been made aware of such breaches so best not scan or copy anything even in cloud

But aren't you allowed to make copies for a small percentage of the work? A few pages is OK but not cover to cover. Otherwise you can pretty sue every university student in the country.

Quote from: 'runway' pid='73449' dateline='1432998559'The Australasian Coin & Banknote Magazine has Copyright and as such publishing or copying / reproducing in any way in part of full is prohibited by International Law.
Jon has been made aware of such breaches so best not scan or copy anything even in cloud

Cobblers, Australian Copyright Law allows for educational use(Not Sale).
You may utilise this to copy 10% or One (1) chapter without contravening any Australian Law.

The National Library of Australia utilise this allowance and will do it for you, (at a price)

As long as you get written permission from copyright owner you will be ok

So, for those who buy from a news-agent, anyone seen the August issue yet?

Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='76543' dateline='1438159011'So, for those who buy from a news-agent, anyone seen the August issue yet?

Got mine on Tuesday. Ended up buying a coin listed in CAB from Klaus Ford to upgrade my type set (1936 sixpence in gem). For those into 1922 pennies Fred Lever has a nice article.

Thanks - been waiting all week but it arrived today.

Quote from: 'proof27' pid='72766' dateline='1432170342'Would anyone have this issue that I could buy of them ?

Sent you a PM mate

Is anyone else's 2015 year book not glued together very well?

Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='81929' dateline='1448676110'Is anyone else's 2015 year book not glued together very well?

Anyone?

haven't got one yet .. sorry

Mine has arrived and looks OK to me

Mine hasn't arrived yet.

As far as I can tell mine is OK.

Mine is ok,bought at local newsagent on Friday

Yep...mine is OK as well, but I think it will be my last as it's slowly becoming irrelevant to my collecting habits, due somewhat in part to a revitalised involvement in model railways. It's a quality mag, unfortunately for me I'm only interested in Australian coins from any era, and have no connection to notes, foreign coins or notes, nor ancients, which usually make up 90 percent of the content.

Thanks for the responses - mine's half way to falling apart and so were the ones I looked at at a newsagent across town.

Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='82079' dateline='1448958405'Yep...mine is OK as well, but I think it will be my last as it's slowly becoming irrelevant to my collecting habits, due somewhat in part to a revitalised involvement in model railways. It's a quality mag, unfortunately for me I'm only interested in Australian coins from any era, and have no connection to notes, foreign coins or notes, nor ancients, which usually make up 90 percent of the content.

Hi AC.
If you look at my very first post of this thread you will see that I'm saying exactly the same thing.
I must say I would love the mag to be more focused on Australian coins I mean it is called the Australasian Coin & Banknote magazine Incorporating Australian Coin Review.
It's a quality mag but just not of interest to me any more.
I pick up the odd one to see if it's changed only to be disappointed

After looking over this topic there is great input and totally agree with you interest regarding your original post
"I must say I would love the mag to be more focused on Australian coins I mean it is called the Australasian Coin & Banknote magazine Incorporating Australian Coin Review. It's a quality mag but just not of interest to me any more"

Quote from: 'interest' pid='82092' dateline='1448968509'I pick up the odd one to see if it's changed only to be disappointed

Similar to you interest, and as we say, it's a quality publication. There must be any number of articles based on Aussie coinage that would have adorned the pages of Coin Review/CAB in the earlier years, and there must be many, many new readers (older ones as well) out there interested in Aussie numismatics who would never have had the opportunity to read this stuff. Why not recycle some of it?

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Quote from: 'interest' pid='82092' dateline='1448968509'I pick up the odd one to see if it's changed only to be disappointed

Similar to you interest, and as we say, it's a quality publication. There must be any number of articles based on Aussie coinage that would have adorned the pages of Coin Review/CAB in the earlier years, and there must be many, many new readers (older ones as well) out there interested in Aussie numismatics who would never have had the opportunity to read this stuff. Why not recycle some of it?

Recycling some of those old stories is a great idea & it would be a huge incentive for more readers to buy the mag.
It's the only one we have I would hate to see it go, I used to subscribe to it & look forwards to it arriving, I no longer subscribe  because the way it is heading there is no incentive for me to purchase I'm sorry to say.
Damn shame.

Quote from: 'runway' pid='82100' dateline='1448976928'After looking over this topic there is great input and totally agree with you interest regarding your original post
"I must say I would love the mag to be more focused on Australian coins I mean it is called the Australasian Coin & Banknote magazine Incorporating Australian Coin Review. It's a quality mag but just not of interest to me any more"

I suggest John would be happy to consider any submissions of material for the mag. He's certainly very happy when we contribute. If you're not aware it does actually pay. You would have to contact John but you would be rewarded with a sum per page.

Pay? You mean I missed out:-/  (Fred, where is my cut:heart:)
I hope most who contribute to the mag do it as an outlet for their passion for the hobby and not to get paid.
I don't think articles should be recycled but why don't some of you use those old articles as a guide to write fresh, new and up to date articles?
Trout could write on the Canberra (cover the steps, the proofs and those uniface patterns that sold recently), or the do's and don'ts of sending coins through customs for slabbing. PP could write on the curse of PVC and review the range of better options.
I'm sure many of us have a coin subject that we could cover so why not give it a go. Otherwise the mag will only have articles (even if well written) on collecting interests that most of us have little interest in; look at how many articles on hammered coins such as 12 Caesars, bishops coins, English treasure finds etc there have been this year yet I doubt those who collect those coins are a tenth of those who collect Aussie coins.

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='82123' dateline='1449040044'Pay? You mean I missed out:-/  (Fred, where is my cut:heart:)
I hope most who contribute to the mag do it as an outlet for their passion for the hobby and not to get paid.
I don't think articles should be recycled but why don't some of you use those old articles as a guide to write fresh, new and up to date articles?
Trout could write on the Canberra (cover the steps, the proofs and those uniface patterns that sold recently), or the do's and don'ts of sending coins through customs for slabbing. PP could write on the curse of PVC and review the range of better options.
I'm sure many of us have a coin subject that we could cover so why not give it a go. Otherwise the mag will only have articles (even if well written) on collecting interests that most of us have little interest in; look at how many articles on hammered coins such as 12 Caesars, bishops coins, English treasure finds etc there have been this year yet I doubt those who collect those coins are a tenth of those who collect Aussie coins.

What a great Post Neil :good::yahoo:

If I ever did bite the bullet and decide to write some articles I would be thrilled that they get published, Bugger the money the "Kudos" is good enough :)
Maybe one day Mate :ok:

I can write an article on the 1964 penny
bet the sales go through the roof that edition!! ha ha

First you need a snappy title to grab attention.
How about "My Indecent Obsession"

Or for trout about '27 florins.
Mind The Step

Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='82155' dateline='1449094346'First you need a snappy title to grab attention.
How about "My Indecent Obsession"

Or for trout about '27 florins.
Mind The Step

To write a good article on the Canberra Florin I would need to image a Proof coin.
Anyone care to send me one :angel::laugh2:

I doubt it.

Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='82155' dateline='1449094346'First you need a snappy title to grab attention.
How about "My Indecent Obsession"

Or for trout about '27 florins.
Mind The Step

I love it

... my indecent obsession... the 50 shades of the norti 1964 penny!!  ( I reckon i'd have that too ... the 50 shades that is + definitely the indecent obsession!! ha ha)

Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='81929' dateline='1448676110'Is anyone else's 2015 year book not glued together very well?

I contacted the editor and apparently a few people have been affected. Two days later I got a replacement copy in the mail.

Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='83096' dateline='1450864378'

Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='81929' dateline='1448676110'Is anyone else's 2015 year book not glued together very well?

I contacted the editor and apparently a few people have been affected. Two days later I got a replacement copy in the mail.

Absolutely NO problems with the customer service there Mate :good:

Quote from: 'trout' pid='83150' dateline='1450983567'Absolutely NO problems with the customer service there Mate :good:

No, it's good to see some people do still car about customer service.

Just rehashing the idea about the forum/ members getting together and doing some articles etc. for the CAB, there is a lot  of knowledge and info in  here. You just take a look at the noodling finds for starters, some of those would have to be fairly hard to find. I think there would be some interesting topics that could surface out of this. Pick a topic and take it from there sort of thing. Just thinking out aloud again. Dang fingers :)just go wandering sometimes.

I'll never do anything for CAB again after I sent Ian a 2012 50 cent bubble and rang him about my discovery but no one has said anything about an article being in there about it so why should I waste my time and money so now I just post here for people to see what I find, like they say once bitten twice shy.

Yeah, well I sent in about 190 odd something pics awhile back as well, so in the same boat, wasn't really happy with the way it came out either, besides who said anything about  sending it to Ian, anyway. :)

Someone said he's the error man there but maybe I should have contacted someone else but then I don't think I could be bothered again and just let the forum know about my finds ;)

Just a thought. :)

Tis all good g :friends:

Send your pictures to us!  When we have enough we'll write an article about them and send it in.

Will do Mark but you can take a pic of the bubble I gave you, unless you spent it :laugh2:

Would it be a good idea if we posted the images in this thread so that we don't double up sending them directly to you Mark?

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='89340' dateline='1464258352'Will do Mark but you can take a pic of the bubble I gave you, unless you spent it :laugh2:

Nope, I still have it.  No idea where it is but it's still here somewhere. :angel:

Quote from: 'trout' pid='89342' dateline='1464258618'Would it be a good idea if we posted the images in this thread so that we don't double up sending them directly to you Mark?

The bigger images the better, posting them here is ok but most people seem to downsize their images when posting them online, we'd prefer the full res ones.

Quote from: 'markn' pid='89367' dateline='1464301041'

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='89340' dateline='1464258352'Will do Mark but you can take a pic of the bubble I gave you, unless you spent it :laugh2:

Nope, I still have it.  No idea where it is but it's still here somewhere. :angel:

All good mate I know the feeling and sometimes during sorting/clean up's I find things I can't remember putting away so that's a bonus :)

QuoteThe bigger images the better, posting them here is ok but most people seem to downsize their images when posting them online, we'd prefer the full res ones.

No worries
I will see if I can find the rotated 2010 50c and 2010 "Bubble" 20c that I have somewhere and take a couple of holiday snaps of them :)

Does anyone get the online version?

Has anyone's news agency stopped selling in the last month or two? I've had to go further afield.

Why don't you subscribe and it is then posted to you each month before newsagents have them?

I prefer the news agency.

I haven't seen a copy in a newsagent up here in Northern NSW for years,may still be around thou..
Certain mainstream Dealer used to put his copy in the Comic Book section of his store each Month.
That should narrow it down for the sleuths on here,who sold Coins/Stamps and pre-read Books/Mags/Comics?.

I don't trust the post to deliver. They fold my sons copy of Open Road to squeeze it in the top slot (even though we have a parcel delivery slot below it). Or they lose things (heading off this arvo to Service NSW to arrange a replacement security licence that never arrived). Or their mail sorting machines bash the heck out packages. At least at the newsagent you can select a pristine copy to read and then stick away neatly for future reference. Do most of us keep all our back issues? Always handy when referring to articles from years ago.

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='126270' dateline='1651458582' Do most of us keep all our back issues? Always handy when referring to articles from years ago.

Yep, a couple of plastic storage boxes in the back shed.

Of the three newsagents in my area, one has stopped stocking the magazine, which of course is the one closest to me. When they were still getting it in, availability was a bit hit and miss. Also, I was told by another agent that the distributors will stop sending if bills are not paid on time.

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='126270' dateline='1651458582'Do most of us keep all our back issues?

Yes - I think I have every issue from August 2001 and then it gets a bit patchy before that.

We may have seen the last ever CAB magazine this month

Why - what happened?

Yes Runway, as a contributor to CAB what can you tell us?

Fred.

Has anyone got their December/January issue yet?

Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='127444' dateline='1669889973'Has anyone got their December/January issue yet?

Nobody has unfortunately

Went to the newsagent today and no CAB. Did not come this month. Is it a distribution problem or is CAB defunct?

No idea - I've looked in a different news agent to my usual and saw nothing there either (but there are three different stamp magazines still in publication).

Any subscribers here?

According to the person at the news agent it's due in late January. Not sure how accurate that is.

I went to another newsagent on the 14th, he said the computer shows they only got one copy. Another newsagent on the 16th only had the November issue on the shelf.

Hm, only one copy - maybe a mistake.

Did you try the library? They usually have a subscription for magazines and would get them first.

I am a subscriber and a contributor have not received the end of year issue.
I do not believe or expect that it will be printed.
I note the CAB website is down for maintenance 'to return shortly'.
We will have to wait and be advised whenever that happens.
Fred.

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Not sure how much truth there is in this but I've just gotten an email from Imperial saying they have acquired CAB magazine.

Unfortunately it is a picture and it won't let me copy the text and I currently don't have the time to type it all up.
It is supposed to relaunch in March.

see attached ... or not. No idea why it is so ridiculously hard to add a picture here.It tells me I have the space, it just won't add the attachment.

There was more, but I was able to copy this off the email they sent. 


(https://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10064/191/Picture1.jpg)

This is the remainder.

(https://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10064/191/Picture2.jpg)

But wait, there's more


(https://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10064/191/Picture3.jpg)

Thanks Auto..i deleted that Email this morning,will have to revive it.

How did you manage to put up the pics Auto cause the forum wouldn't let me?
I tried attaching it, I tried copying the picture and pasting it in. No joy.

You could just SAVE the images and print out from that.
Bit rough but readable.
So now we have a statement of intent.
I wish Scott all the best wishes for success in a tough market!
Fred.

Quote from: 'gweidion' pid='127569' dateline='1671680997'How did you manage to put up the pics Auto cause the forum wouldn't let me?
I tried attaching it, I tried copying the picture and pasting it in. No joy.

Hi gweidion, had to think about this, that's what happens when flying by the seat of one's pants.

Ok, right click on the email page and copy image, then paste to a word document. 

Right click on the word document then click on save as picture. This will give you the option of saving a JPEG file to your computer.

Then upload the file to the forum gallery, and then to the relevant post as you normally would for any other. 

 I did find when trying to copy the original email page the whole document was not covered so had to do it in increments.

Hope this helps.

Glad the magazine has been saved.  I hope the print version continues alongside the digital as I prefer hard copies over anything that can be erased with a keystroke (or a glitch like happened to MySpace). Plus a physical copy can't be subject to new fees (like photobucket).

Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='127574' dateline='1671697900'

Quote from: 'gweidion' pid='127569' dateline='1671680997'How did you manage to put up the pics Auto cause the forum wouldn't let me?
I tried attaching it, I tried copying the picture and pasting it in. No joy.

Hi gweidion, had to think about this, that's what happens when flying by the seat of one's pants.

Ok, right click on the email page and copy image, then paste to a word document. 

Right click on the word document then click on save as picture. This will give you the option of saving a JPEG file to your computer.

Then upload the file to the forum gallery, and then to the relevant post as you normally would for any other. 

 I did find when trying to copy the original email page the whole document was not covered so had to do it in increments.

Hope this helps.

Thanks Auto, I actually saved the image as a jpg but couldn't get the forum to accept it as an attachment. Not sure why.

Thanks for the updates - so no December/January issue then?

And did the website ever have anything on it? I remember the URL being published a few years ago but I didn't think anything came of it.

Anyone heard any more about this? New one can't be too far away now.

Re the 'new' CAB or more correctly 'Coin Review'.
Anybody received their March subscription copy?
Usually comes in the mail about now.

Fred.

Was speaking to Steele Waterman yesterday on another matter and he said the new editor [Steele's son Scott] said that the magazine was all printed and distribution is currently in place.  Given this is the first issue by the new "team" I think we should give them a bit of slack.  No doubt we are all keen to see the latest version.  Having founded the original CAB magazine back in 1996, I can assure all readers that producing a magazine like this every month was about the most stressful project I had ever been involved in.  I wish you all the best to Scott and his team.  Just like American presidents, I am sure his hair will go from black to grey in an unnaturally short period of tine :)

Anyone got one yet? Any news on the online version too?

Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='127877' dateline='1677841034'Anyone got one yet? Any news on the online version too?

Yes, the website is up see   https://australiancoinreview.com.au/  

Interesting that they require $129 for their annual online subscription, $179 if you want to see digital back issues. To calibrate these costs its only 24 pounds for a 24 month digital subscription to the UK's Coin News. The ANA magazine (The Numimatist) online subscription is $30 US for 12 months.

Quote from: 'shagreen' pid='127880' dateline='1677903891'

Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='127877' dateline='1677841034'Anyone got one yet? Any news on the online version too?

Yes, the website is up see   https://australiancoinreview.com.au/  

Interesting that they require $129 for their annual online subscription, $179 if you want to see digital back issues. To calibrate these costs its only 24 pounds for a 24 month digital subscription to the UK's Coin News. The ANA magazine (The Numimatist) online subscription is $30 US for 12 months.

 :welcome:

Quote from: 'shagreen' pid='127880' dateline='1677903891'

Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='127877' dateline='1677841034'Anyone got one yet? Any news on the online version too?

Yes, the website is up see   https://australiancoinreview.com.au/  

Interesting that they require $129 for their annual online subscription, $179 if you want to see digital back issues. To calibrate these costs its only 24 pounds for a 24 month digital subscription to the UK's Coin News. The ANA magazine (The Numimatist) online subscription is $30 US for 12 months.

Ah nice, thanks.

Yeah I subscribe to Coin News and it's a bargain for a 2 digital digital subscription. Looks like retail price is $14.95 (can't quite make it out).

I agree with Greg Mac, cut some slack for ACR.
Had contact with Scott Waterman today, magazine appears to be "well on the way".
Looks like it's a pretty fresh "clean sheet" start for the new owners.
There will be a lot of furious paddling going on under the surface and catching up to be done.
I expect my subscription copy of the first mag to arrive in due course and look forward to it.
I do intend to submit articles once the machinery is up and running and, as always, these must appear at the discretion of the Editor.
(Just a note about CAB, yes, I did submit articles unpaid on a "hobby" basis and was quite happy to do so as part of my hobby.
My relationship with John Mulhall was excellent and I was pleased to have been a part of the success of the magazine as a steady contributor.)
Let's see how the new mag and web site goes in this professional modern world.

Fred.

Have the printed copies hit the newsagents yet and if so will it be the same agents that stocked CAB

Well said Fred.  I am so pleased I am as old as I am. I just hate having to rely on electronics for everything.  Never had a cheque scammed! If you are not a slave to the electronic way of life within five years it will be like being illiterate.

Hi Neal, I don't have any idea of detail on distribution.
Scott contacted me regarding submissions, and I have indicated interest in continuing that on a commercial basis.
I think the amount of work in producing a print magazine as well as web site is being an eye opener.
John Mulhall was a mighty "one man band" and suddenly you need a whole bunch of people to come up to speed and do the work of one!
Having worked in a large catalogue driven company, Jaycar,  with a "one man band" boss/owner i have a glimmer of an idea.
Let's see how it goes, the best thing to do is be a subscriber as John was trying to get CAB readers to be.
As a subscriber I always enjoyed the mag coming in the post van to my box and not having to search paper shops.
I am a subscriber to a number of mags, automotive, electronic etc and it's the way to go for me.
Fred.

Hi Fred, problem with the subscription route is the stupid postal system. We installed a drop box next to our letter box but the postie still puts magazines and packages in the little letterbox. Don't want a wet and folded magazine sitting in that letter box when I'm not home for days or longer.
I did try 2 larger newsagents today, they both had a decent range of magazines including stamp collecting but no ACR, so either the March issue is running late or newsagents are not stocking it. Hope the distributor has informed the newsagents that ACR is replacing CAB after a 3 month break.

Hi Neal, yes the posties these days do have an eye sight problem and cant count numbers.

The Magazines I get in the post are all bagged in clear plastic and when they are left half hanging out of the big box, don't get that wet.
I think bagging is pretty standard with post mags.

I noted the same thing as you, I saw about 5 stamp magazines in the paper shop and no coin magazines.
Does that mean anything i wonder?

Fred.

Fred.

I noticed a heap of stamp magazines in my searches a few months ago too - I can't figure it.

I noted that my local newsagent in Toongabbie NSW has been supplied some March Issues of the Coin Review.
So, distribution is now under way.
I grabbed a copy so see how the startup issue has been handled.
I noted the retail cost of the Mag is $14.95, the current price of similar Hobby mags in my own library, Silicon Chip is $11.50, Model Railway $11.0, Restored Cars $11.95.
Those mags are run by hard nosed  enthusiasts and represent the lowest possible retail  cost for return in the industry. There will be increases by them  this year as costs increase.
My opinion was that CAB was being subsidised by the owner and free support from contributors and the industry to a large degree, and may not have been viable in a commercial sense.
I don't expect a huge content in a start-up magazine but note items by authors such as Mick Vort R., Tony James, Andrew Crellin previous authors in CAB described elsewhere as "amateurs". This "amateur ", Fred Lever will offer articles for publication in ACR as usual.
Other items are by fresh faces to CAB , industry people and the usual industry advertisers, like Renniks, Heritage etc. We have Club Meeting notices, a 2022 index of CAB , an ANDA members list and so on.
The initial binding is in that welded spine ( i hate) that has the advantage of clear Volume and issue numbers visible on the shelf but the disadvantage of not staying open at the page you are trying to read. You need to get used to the unusual font not used by industry mags (these really pack the text onto the page) but binding and font can be re-jigged to avoid the "coffee table" glossy chuck in the bin look.
You all need to support your local coin/electronics/model rail/vintage car magazine as well as the web sites that link the two formats of information together.

Cheers, Fred.

Not loads of advertising for Imperial or Roxburys?

I ended up going the subscription route. $199 for 11 issues isn't cheap but I'm not a Fred who has multiple hobbies to buy mags for. Plus as an "amateur" the online back issues are handy for research.

Gweid,

88 pages total in magazine.
 1 page ad Imperial, 2 pages Roxbury ads.
Guess you better buy a copy and check it out.

Fred.

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='127914' dateline='1678695729'I ended up going the subscription route. $199 for 11 issues isn't cheap but I'm not a Fred who has multiple hobbies to buy mags for. Plus as an "amateur" the online back issues are handy for research.

Sounds like 'amateur' struck a nerve but a lot of the articles over the years were,they belong in a Coin Club magazine at best, or posted on here.

It was better reading than nothing but i hope the new magazine,haven't read it yet,is more professional in its text and content.My 2c.

Mine came today, express post. Only subscribed on Sunday.
And yes Fred, the "amateur" bit gets me. Nothing worse than seeing stuff by so called "professionals"  (dealers, mint officials, museum curators) being full of silly errors, bad assumptions and whatnot. At least us "amateur's" do the research with passion and frequently with larger collections and reference files.
Most of the interesting articles in CAB were by "amateur's" as they were usually on real coins and not grannybait new mint issues.
A bit strange that the Roxbury ad was for an auction at the beginning of the month (1st-3rd) when very few would see it in time.

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='127918' dateline='1678778490'Mine came today, express post. Only subscribed on Sunday.
And yes Fred, the "amateur" bit gets me. Nothing worse than seeing stuff by so called "professionals"  (dealers, mint officials, museum curators) being full of silly errors, bad assumptions and whatnot. At least us "amateur's" do the research with passion and frequently with larger collections and reference files.
Most of the interesting articles in CAB were by "amateur's" as they were usually on real coins and not grannybait new mint issues.
A bit strange that the Roxbury ad was for an auction at the beginning of the month (1st-3rd) when very few would see it in time.

Don't take it personally Neale,i was talking about the Mag. in general over a 20 year+ period,some good issues with interesting topics but a lot of poor topics as well,just ego related rehashed topics/scripts that present opinions as fact and shouldn't be included in a magazine you have to buy.  
One of my peeves is pre-Dec Mintage figures being presented as facts,they are an estimates.
In the 1960's it was generally accepted by Dealers the 1925 penny mintage was wrong and grossly underestimated,this kind of faded away after 1966 as Dealers were making money out of this 'rare' Coin.
It was a low mintage year but 117,000 is ridiculous,its probably around 500,000 based on its availability.
David Briggs stated it was minted prior to Xmas 1925,Bill Mullett in his 1996 book said they were minted in 1926 ,who's correct or are they both correct?.

Just my 2c and my opinion.
I've been collecting Coins since 1960 but as a hobby,i don't regard myself as an expert or authority in any way but some of the rubbish published over the last 20-30 years is astounding.

Hi Basil,
The best way to stop myths and errors from being past on from publication to publication is to man up and publish an article that sets the record straight once and for all.  Even if you don't consider yourself an author, a list of corrections in point form is better than nothing.  Some readers have been puzzled that I either start a post or follow one set up by someone else that highlights errors in my pocketbook.
No one deliberately writes books, or articles with known errors or mistakes, but unlike critics, such writers and authors are just human beings with the usual faults of often believing what they are told or read elsewhere.  If someone points out an error in one of my books, you can be assured it won't reappear in the next book.  Nothing galls me more than a puffed-up expert going public to criticise some error I have made, but doesn't do the decent thing to contact me personally so I can fix the error. Conversely, anyone who cannot be bothered to fix errors, or pretend they don't make mistakes, also doesn't have a place in publishing numismatics material.  Whether they are regarded as "amateurs" or whatever; anyone who tries to share knowledge for the greater good of the hobby should be appreciated rather than be denigrated as being some sort of chain-smoking pedophile. Remember the world is full of statues honouring explorers, artists, writers and scientists etc - but so far, none for Critics!

Quote from: 'Greg McDonald' pid='127920' dateline='1678841476' Remember the world is full of statues honouring explorers, artists, writers and scientists etc - but so far, none for Critics!

Hi Greg, no criticism of you, but disciples of the crazy far left in other parts have been knocking over the odd statue lately, won't be surprised to see a push for the erection of same to celebrate protagonists and anarchists. I don't think they teach history in schools anymore, so all sorts of rhetoric prevails.

Hi Neal, and all, Australia Post finally coughed up my subscription issue of the new CAB.
I would expect that everybody in Australia on a subs list or buying from a paper shop would have theirs by now.
Possibly you all could all set me straight on that, I would not want to get a fact wrong when I write a review, or an opinion article on the new mag!

How about you Basil, had a read yet?
What do you think?
I value your opinion.

Cheers, Fred.

Hi Fred,Thanks,haven't read it yet but i saw the local Newsagent and she is chasing up a copy,i might bite the bullet and get a subscription,only thing we might be moving so see what happens there before i commit.

Hi Greg,i do throw my 2c in on various pre-Dec. subjects but usually on here and CC.,also verbally with various Dealers over the years.
My Niece is a Journo and she is compiling a Book on the 1930 Penny on behalf of an aged family friend who was a Stamp/Coin Dealer post WW11.I might submit a draft later this year to the new mag to see what the reaction is.

HI Basil,  I am pleased you didn't take anything I said personally. I comment you on doing a book on the 1930 penny. Some time ago Fred put me straight on the origins of the 1930 I just accepted as fact. Once you've beenntold off by Fred there is no going back LOL!  Someone with the amount of knowledge you must have acquired would be welcome in a book.  When DR Bill Mira based away I went to the auction selling his estate.  I just zeroed in on the fabulous collection of coin club newsletters going back to the late 1940's from clubs all around Australia.  It will take years to read each and everyone but I've come across some really wonderful Stuff I'll put into book form at some stage.  After Dion Skiller sold his book rights to Renniks, he called me to see if I wanted all the numismatic corresponded be had built up from the 1950s.  I have letters from Dion to the Indian mints about 1942/43 restrict proof; Letters to various numismatics regarding the recently discovered 1916 mule.  All these items put a different slant on what has come down through the years.  When you are ready to promote your book Basil, I'd like to offer you a free half-page advert in whatever book I'm doing at the time to promote it.
Kind Regards, Greg

Thanks Greg,kind words.
It will have to morph into a slightly bigger focus at this stage to try and fill the pages but my Niece is a very clever wordsmith so see how we go.

Basil I would be happy to do a reading and comment at  draft level on any section  of the book or the whole.

Having written much about the 1930 and cranked out a book on coins I know how much effort and time goes into the job.
Where the experiences of somebody involved in the trade goes, getting it down on paper for all to find out about is so important.
So many people have passed with not a trace left behind of the experience and knowledge of a life time.

Cheers, Fred.

Quote from: 'fred lever' pid='127932' dateline='1678995631'Basil I would be happy to do a reading and comment at  draft level on any section  of the book or the whole.

Having written much about the 1930 and cranked out a book on coins I know how much effort and time goes into the job.
Where the experiences of somebody involved in the trade goes, getting it down on paper for all to find out about is so important.
So many people have passed with not a trace left behind of the experience and knowledge of a life time.

Cheers, Fred.

Thanks Fred.
At this stage it will be later this year,having problems getting Dealers/Numismatists to go on record.
The the main difference from your CaB article is the release date,general consensus is they weren't released in 1930/31 as they would have been ID in a heartbeat by Dealers/Numismatic Societies and Coin collectors in general.
I know some heavyweights have gone on record as saying this is when they were released.

At this stage we 'think'(no proof yet so still a theory) they were released late 1930's,when we went to the Kangaroo,or during the Coin shortage of the early 1940's.They first turned up in Sydney during the early 1940's but that doesn't mean they weren't released elsewhere earlier.
We are trying to track down Numismatic Society of NSW Newsletters from the the late l940/1950's as apparently the 1930 Penny got a lot of attention.
Gilbert Heyde and his cronies were scooping up every 1930 Penny they could find around this time.

Hi Basil, the other puzzle is why,   apparently,    the main dealer action with flogging 1930's started in Sydney?
You would think the coins would have been released in  Melbourne first, being where the Mint was at the time.
Seemingly there was little dealer action in Melbourne in the early stages?

You know me, I'll just go with common sense and logic about anything.

Cheers, Fred.

Quote from: 'fred lever' pid='127934' dateline='1679043782'Hi Basil, the other puzzle is why,   apparently,    the main dealer action with flogging 1930's started in Sydney?
You would think the coins would have been released in  Melbourne first, being where the Mint was at the time.
Seemingly there was little dealer action in Melbourne in the early stages?

You know me, I'll just go with common sense and logic about anything.

Cheers, Fred.

Hi Fred..
Yes,lots of quandaries,apparently Phil Downie stated in print he didn't see a 1930 Penny until 1948(49?) but trying to verify this is a nightmare.
The Auctions in Sydney were mainly Gilbert Heyde,they were onto the 1930 Penny during the war,apparently at one stage he had over 30 of them.
I read in the 1960's that the Public,& a couple of agents for large US Dealers,who were chasing 1930 Pennies were 20 years too late but like lots of hearsay trying to verify this is near impossible but i'm still trying.

Basil and all, just as a teaser here is the conclusion of a developing article of mine on the 1930.

"Conclusion, When and Where.
When. The 1930 specimen coins were minted in August 1930. From a known number of twelve selected, six were issued and are accounted for today, the rest are not accounted for.
The 1930 dated productions coins could have been minted between August 1931 and June 1932, which was the end of the production run of the 1931 dated coins.
Being only several thousand in number they just disappeared into the mix of millions and millions of pennies in circulation.
Apart from the Museums, the Numismatic Associations that existed, in the 1930's and a few motivated private collectors, the fact that 1930 pennies existed was unknown and not notable in the 1930's.
The pace picked up once the scarcity was realized aided by the hobby of coin collecting moving into popularity with the post war boom in the late 1940's.

Where. The question of distribution is simple speculation.
The whole 1930 production could have resided in one bag in a delivery crate so the whole of production could have been sent to one destination. Therefore, and this is pure speculation, such a delivery could have been to the Commonwealth Bank in George St, Sydney and that may explain why the 1930 penny   seemingly   was "found" and promoted in the Sydney area first."
End of conclusion.

That woolly speculation is simply why the type of research that Basil is doing is so important, where he can get FIRST HAND the recollections of someone in the trade nearer to the era than we can get to by just researching papers, journals and so. Download his brain Basil before he leaves us!

The simple truth, I feel, is just what I sum up in that conclusion, there is no mystery to find because there is no mystery, they just made them and delivered.
The actual balance of pennies in the Mint stock fell from about 2.5 million in 1929 to zero or a small deficit in 1934 (Briggs research) so by that time, no penny with a date previous to 1934 was available from the stock. Production picked up post 1934 and a positive stock balance existed until 1937 where they scaled back production and holdings of 1936 dated coins.
That anticipated the big Kahoona change in 1937 and the rest as they say is History.

Fred.

Oh Fred, please do your research first, there is a statue to literary critic Northrop Frye in Canada. (just messing with you Fred :shout:). But it is OK for Fred and others to make quick comments on the forums about stuff and not be fully accurate; but when articles and research papers are published they should be critiqued, fact checked and proof read prior to publication. Sure CAB and ACR are not formal research publications, but "facts" published in them are used both as references in other articles and as selling points for "rare" coins.
Galls me (and Basil and probably most of us) when mintage figures are plainly wrong or just guesstimates without the authors of such mintage tables adding warnings and qualifiers to the numbers.

As for the 1930 penny, the Melbourne museum had seen an example or 2 in 1940, Nobles auctioned a 1930 some years back where the vendor stated it had been collected by his father in 1938 on the Glenelg tram and in Sydney a dealer was advertising to buy them in April 1945 and obtained a number of them. So 3 different states prior to wars end and with over 1200 minted that is more than one mint bags worth. Plus assuming the striking was done not as a commercial run but just dribs and drabs as dies were tested it is possible handfuls could have ended up in any number of bags and released over a couple of years in different states.
BTW how is it physically possible for mint stocks to get to a small deficit by 1934 Fred? Sounds like the stocktake figures had acquired a rounding error over the years that would require slightly more coins to have been struck than counted. Out by a few bags of pennies with millions minted would be easy unless every blank was counted, every misstruck penny chucked in the reject pile also counted and any taken for examination also accounted for.

Yes, Neal, very funny,  I was not providing a research paper in my post #154!
You will all note the word "speculation" where I am waffling.
The other dates and figures are well known and reported by researchers all the way from John Sharples in JNNA's to Bill Mullett private, et al, well before Fred Lever even thought about a 1930 penny.

Upcoming in ACR will be an article by me on the appearances and mentions of the 1930 in, professional journals, in newspapers and in the ACR / ACB magazine series. 1960's to today.
There is nothing new in that article just a long list for researchers to refer to, gathered into one place.
I did that article prior to the not yet written article whose conclusion is in #154.
Yep, starting with a conclusion this time and then refuting/ proving anything i write.
Almost like being a professional rather than an amateur!
David Briggs has done a massive amount of work on the VR Mint records concerning everything from weights of metal used, discs produced and quantities of coin, costs and a lot more.
I am trying to absorb this and really am off the pace, we all have a lot of catching up to do, once Dr. Briggs completes the next issue of "Pennys".

Cheers, Freddo.

Anyway, the point and subject of this thread is the NEW MAGAZINE.
I made some comments on this thread as a first reaction.
Now that users of this forum will have a copy, what is your reaction to the form and style of the mag?
I had a swipe at the binding and font being a bit set in my ways about  readability of research documents, but thats just me.

Regarding the contents, well its a good read just like CAB.
News, a look at the coloured  two dollars (not my cup of tea but i'm coming around) a slew of articles from K Rodgers and T James, Sally Lovegrove looks at more coloured  RAM issues.
Andrew Crellin updates the 1930 penny story, Stephen Jones starts a series on the "Kangaroo Office" and as John used to say "much much more".

So, all I know from this web site so far is Fred has got a copy, Neal has got a copy and Basil will give it a look.
Thats not much data.
How about the rest of you?
I will do an article on the changeover later on this year and need education from all you forum members, say, how the CAB magazine was going and how does this continuation look so far?

Fred.

Hi Fred, I stopped buying CAB a year or more ago because as I saw it, there was a lack of Australian coin content. I'm not interested in banknotes, foreign coins, ancient coins, shiny bower bird glitter from our mints or stories about historical goings on around the planet, all of which was the main focus of the magazine in my opinion. 

Some issues it took a really hard look to find just one article of interest to me, I couldn't see any value in the magazine and stopped buying it. When I first discovered CAB in 2003 it was always a month's eager wait until the next issue.  

I attempted to present an article of my own on one occasion, it obviously didn't cut the mustard and that's ok, but received no reply indicating why. I hope they made good use of the USB stick.

Another thing which got up my nose was how the editor didn't rerun articles from earlier years. This would make sense to me particularly when you consider there would obviously have been an incremental take-up of the magazine by readers over time who potentially would never get to see earlier works which most probably would have been on file in some form or other. 

Just one old work of interest per issue would have done nicely, as opposed to buying back issues with even more uninteresting content. 

I hope the new ACR is able to produce a more balanced offering.   

Anyhow, that's just the view of an increasingly cranky individual, but stick by what I said.

Cheers

Hi auto. Yes I agree about the frustration of few pre decimal articles in CAB. As for recycling old articles it won't be necessary if you choose the archive article option with ACR mark 2.0. I'm looking forward to reading some of the issues that I missed buying.
If you still have a copy of your rejected article then why not post it in this forum? Might not be quite polished enough for CAB or of too niche a topic for a mainstream coin mag. But it might be fascinating to pre decimal fanatics like myself and others. That applies to everyone, this forum has gone a bit dormant with little added to the coin wiki in ages. Same with uploaded photos and whatnot.

Thanks Auto, thanks Neal, more please!
Fred.

Hi Fred..picked up a copy on the W/end and a professional,good quality paper,magazine.
Still working my way thru the articles but so far so good,probably have to wait a year or 2 to give it a rating.

Crellin's article on the 1930 was interesting and well written,i agree with his time line,'finds' before the 1940's are hearsay and can't be verified(so far) but something may turn up in an old newspaper or the like in the years ahead.
I think he might have a couple of things slightly wrong however,the 1930 was mentioned(vr..very rare) in Heyde's book that was published in 1944 and Heyde owned at least 2 egs back then.I read,IIRC, he found them in 1942/43.

US Dealer who i purchased Oz Coins from sent me a signed copy of his book,it was the US Numismatic. Assn Library copy,he purchased it at Auction and thought i may like it.May be of interest to collectors down the track.

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The Heyde book is interesting for what it doesn't include.
1919 .//.
1942 I missing I (in the mid 40s it was rated as rare as the 1930)
Also no English or Indian for any year, dropped and normal 1, short and long denticle Indian pennies and halfpennies and the 33/32 overdate penny.
Any chance Basil if you can recall where you have read 1942/43 as the years he found 2 of them? Did he find them himself or did he buy them. If he did find them the odds are he found them in the city or suburb where he lived or worked.

Also, the ACR article has an image from the 1945 of the society minutes of Fleming showing his 1930. It mentions the Heyde had since obtained one. That makes it unlikely that he had one until April 1945.
I should also add I have a copy of "Coins" and the front cover displays 1945.  So perhaps Heyde wrote his preface in 1944, then the booklet was published in 1945? Could the tables have been finished in 1945 and if so why is the latest issue date for any denomination 1943 (excepting 1944 for P and M pennies).
In addition IIRC there was a limited and controlled supply of paper during the war so it is possible that this booklet was only published after August 1945 (maybe well after). Might explain the tardiness of sending Basils copy until Feb 1947.
I am disappointed that the ACR article does not have a reference list at the end. Besides the specifics of the articles cited it is also possible to see the many references not cited. For example were the society journals besides the Fleming 1945 example checked? Why no mention of the reported 1938 Glenelg find and clearly the author was mistaken is writing that little was written about the 1930 penny until the mid 60s boom as i know of a dozen references by 1960.

Neal,
Re the references, see page 84.,
References 1 to 16 expanded.
A bit odd to put refs separately but probably due to pressure.

Guys the April issue is near the printing stage, I had the pleasure of viewing a draft layout simply because I have a article embedded.
More comments please on this thread about the mag.

Fred.

Hi all...the key is the NSW Numismatic Society newsletters from 1944 on.Apparently references almost monthly on the 1930 and this went on until the 1960's.Sounds like Crellin has found some,hope he shares.
I read(in the 1960's IIRC) where Heyde found a couple of 1930's in Sydney early 1940's,but perhaps they belonged to someone else and he just photographed them for the NSW NS.,not sure,more research and verification needed.
I'll throw this in whilst i have the PDF  out,from Heyde memoirs,first told in 1942 about the Coin but i can't find where he obtained them in 1942/43.
'' Some sixty years later Gilbert Christoph Heyde wrote in his memoires:
The 1930 Penny: About 1942 Sydney Hagley told me there was an Australian 1930 penny, and he had been shown one. The Mint said that none had been made or issued that year.
Both these two statements were written some years after the event, which would account for their inaccuracies. This is not unusual when trying to recall years later....."

Aust. Coin Review Article..Ref. at end.

https://www.sterlingcurrency.com.au/blog/news-research/commonwealth-coins/australias-1930-penny-why-is-it-our-nations-most-p/

Hi Basil. Heyde was the guy at NSNSW who put in the newsletter that he had since obtained a 1930 penny. So  just in the days or at most weeks following Fleming displaying his example until Heyde printed off the newsletter is the period he obtained it. Recalling details years/decades later for his memoirs is where the inaccuracies arose.
Hi Fred, back to critiquing ACR;  found that reference page, not sure why it needed 16 reference points for 12 references. I wish there was a reference to where Heyde obtained 38 of them from Raymond, I know there is a photo where someone (Heyde?) had 7 examples on his hand, but 38? Did Raymond get that many through his shop?
I also find it hard reading the articles as the font is not bold enough. Considering the average age of collectors the editor might need to make the letters darker (that or I need to buy reading glasses).
Also in the 2022 CAB index there is a Sedge Tailed Eagle 2oz gold article, what is a sedge tailed eagle? (is it a fat finger typo as the S key is below the W?) Typos were an issue in CAB, hope it doesn't carry over to ACR.
And does the CAB list alphabetical order need to have the same article by Tony James in 2 places? (under both Abyssinian and Ethiopian). Surely those interested in Abyssinian anything would also check under Ethiopia?

No need to go to specsavers yet Neal. I'm having the same trouble.
The readability of type is a whole subject in itself!
I read a pretty good discussion of this (no i don't have the reference!)  by  the editor of Silicon Chip.
He discussed  why they selected the font/size used and why the type of paper used.
Their  font is easy to read and stands out from the rather matt  surface ( reflectivity) of the paper.
SC is a tech heavy mag where they are transmitting IDEAS and FACTS and the last thing they want readers to do is struggle to read the page under all lighting conditions.
They rarely lay text over colour  for instance.
 
ACR is more an INFORMATION mag but still needs to follow the basic editing to readability principles.
Now i'm starting to sound like I know what I'm talking about and a f---know all.
I thought a lot about font and binding when producing my book on coins.
I used 100gm matt white page paper, whatever font was in Word and spiro bound 200gm covers with clear protectors and  the thing lay flat when opened.
That was ok for an amateur home printer but commercial printing is a different ball game with a different cost structure.
I had to give the thing away and put it on CD, the amount of information would have filled 1000 pages in the end.
Stop whining Fred!

  The new ACR will find out just why the old magazines had a slew of editors, sub editors, fact checkers, legals, that sort of thing you just cannot have  nowadays for a viable monthly low circulation mag. Different if you are a daily news paper. Or a yearly Journal, those should be absolutely impeccable in fact checking and references.

I'll stop mouthing off.

Fred.

Quote from: 'fred lever' pid='127956' dateline='1679344395' The new ACR will find out just why the old magazines had a slew of editors, sub editors, fact checkers, legals, that sort of thing you just cannot have  nowadays for a viable monthly low circulation mag. Different if you are a daily news paper. Or a yearly Journal, those should be absolutely impeccable in fact checking and references.

Fred.

Hi Fred,my Niece has some exotic SW on her laptop,spelling,punctuation,paragraphs and with 'Google Facts' makes it very easy to churn out a story.
Point being Mag. Editors have it easy these days,all the work is done by the SW.

Neale..good find by Crellin of the 1945 NSW NS article.I agree with the time line,1942-45,just needs some fine tuning,Coin went from myth to fact.It was reported Heyde found his first Coin early 1940's,he may have had a couple by 1945 but will need a verification of some kind.
The whole focus of the NSW NS from early 1940's to the 1950's was the 1930 Penny,members spent W/ends doing nothing but sort Coins  for years on end.Vast majority of Coins were found in Sydney,Brisbane & Melb. were time wasters.

Family friend who was a Dealer in the 1950/60's knew Heyde and said he was an old fox,if he said he had over 30 1930 Pennies he probably had double that.The 38 figure was from one Dealer and needs verification.
The NSW NS used to run Coin Auctions and they always had a 1930 Penny,or 2,in the lisings.
Heyde,Flemming and their Cronies made a killing with the 1930,who knows how many they found.

Just wondering ifs we can keep to topic - Magazine?

Maybe a separate blog for the 1930 penny - some interesting comments which I think would be easier to follow if grouped together ... just Sayin'

Interesting point about google driven software writing articles.
It is becoming a huge problem in Academia.
The editor of Silicon Chip monthly  illustrated this perfectly by "writing" an Editorial  page for a recent  issue.
The editorial was on point to the subject, and just about perfect, but not written by a human!
He used a "robot" automatic writing google style app to do the job.
Just fill the program boxes with the subject, how many words and a few other details and bingo minutes later you have a prefect article / paper.

I have read tech articles by writers that are near perfect to read, except when google AI has put is a series of words and you see text from a paper you have read or worse still written.
What a coincidence!! It is like being quoted with no attribution but the scum have gone well past that point.
That is why an editor may prefer to print a bit of a scrappy opinion article from a part time amateur as myself, over a pitch perfect, on point dissertation, full cross indexed and referenced.
Writers with styles and foibles are to be preferred. if you read a paper or article and there is a certain monotony and lifelessness to the perfection, beware.

If I write some dribble on about , say, fake concocted coins (now there is an idea for the new  ACR)  I can go out into the work shop with hammer, anvil, press and lathe and knock up some rare Mint errors. (ok I have already done it back years ago for CAB). The editor back then knew I was a real person and the article was kosher.

Full academic papers are different level up from magazines and  you can  feel sorry for editors or markers reading a pitch perfect paper when they know the writer is a idiot.
Any way that's a different world from writing for magazines and I will continue to write and write and submit,  and every now and then i will score a printing.
Thats a ego boost.
You can be sure there were no robots in the major writers that were used for CAB.
There is a theory that old stiffs like me should relax and let the robots and google take over I am not going along with it.
No way!
I'm rambling again.

More people, let me know about the first and second issue magazine issues and what you think.
Fred.

Quote from: 'Greg McDonald' pid='127962' dateline='1679445187'Just wondering ifs we can keep to topic - Magazine?

Maybe a separate blog for the 1930 penny - some interesting comments which I think would be easier to follow if grouped together ... just Sayin'

They will eventually migrate to a '1930 Penny' Thread Greg.

We were discussing the 1930 article in ACR so really not that much OT,its attracted a lot of attention up our way,Hobby collectors thou.,,no experts or Dealers.

I was going to save it for our Book but will throw it in here for comments.
By-product of the frantic 10 year+(1945-55) search for the 1930 was the 1925 Penny,NSW NS & Dealers mainly,found them by the thousands,Dealers had shoeboxes full of them and that was just Sydney.
Suddenly this 'scarce' Coin wasn't so scarce and questions were raised of the official Mintage figures but not one Dealer broke ranks,they all were sold at the going rate ,10-20 Shillings for an average eg., and that continued into the 1960's when no questions were raised about the Mintage figures.

Well Basil, there you go, why not trot out an article on the 1925 penny for ACR?

I had a go at it, (ref CAB 2018 vol21-06 Neal).
I picked Dr Briggs' brain and padded out a 9 page, 16,000 word 30 illustration  article.
That was about 15 hour  edit time to compose the article.
The research time by Dr. Briggs would have been unending hours assembling information and research of Mint reports, VRO units and his personal coin collection.

That may all sound impressive, BUT the article was pretty limited to  a "varieties and errors" point of view.
You could have a very different point of view using your knowledge of the Australian coin collecting scene and coin associations, dealers etc.
That experience would make a cracking article discussing the trading of the 1925 at collector and club level over the years.
As i pointed out in the Briggs article we only scratched the surface and there must be much more to tell about the 1925.

This all about point of view and I and others tend to get buried in writing articles from the engineering master / hub / die point of view.
There is plenty of room to do what I cannot, the point of view of someone actually involved in the coin scene over the years.

Cheers, Fred.

Hi Fred,just reiterating the views of a couple of Dealers from the 1950's,they felt the official 1925 Mintage figures were wrong,no doubt it was a low mintage year but the Mintage was probaly closer to,or even higher,than the 1946.
To find evidence and proof is another matter,perhaps there was another run from the Melb. Mint in 1926 or the Sydney Mint did have the 1925 Reverse die and churned out a few Thousand.

Anyway as Greg said we should get back on topic,our little group up here in Northern NSW enjoyed reading it and definitely shows promise.

Still no April issue yet?

Hi Mr T. As it's a Saturday and the first of the month would the hard copies be in the mail? Now for those that get the digital online version is it up yet?

It wasn't up digitally that I could see when I checked yesterday.

Presuming the digital online copy is ready for when the draft is sent to the printer for the print version it is a bit slack that you didn't get it on the morning of the 1st. Being a weekend shouldn't make a difference as the release to digital subscribers can be pre set for 00:01 on the 1st.
BTW is the online version an exact copy of the printed version?

I assume it's the same.

Look like it's up now - it wasn't when I looked on the weekend.

Got my printed copy on the 6th. Articles are generally good. Still a few typos such as in the Bangladesh banknote article the president was titled both sheik and sheikh.
To me the pages with puzzles are pointless, maybe they attract novice level collectors?
Biggest personal gripe (probably Freds and a few others as well) is the lack of pre decimal articles. maybe that's my/others fault for not writing more research up to publish.

Neal, you were lucky, Australia NonPost had not delivered any mail to our street for 12 days.
No folks I am not living up a tree or at Uppercumback, simply Toongabbie 2146  in Sydney .
The postie delivered a big hand full today, AP was obviously keeping it warm somewhere.
I nearly bought an issue of ACR at the local newsagent just to read it!
So if your susbs issue has not yet arrived blame AustNonPost.

I  still have trouble reading the faint text, possibly I need to go to Specsavers, or, have the cataracts removed.
That font is not my favourite or anybody else's for readability.
The content I guess is up to the editor, he has to craft the magazine to suit the readership and boost circulation.

Neal, you and I and Basil and co are fossils it seems.
If I post a comment on a pre-decimal coin on this forum usually about 3 people have anything to say.
On that basis I would say that pre-decimal coins are dead to talk about.
Of course anything about 1930 , 1925 pennies and the like will always be printed because they are what's in the catalogue are they not? ...don't get me started!!!!!
Anyway, early days I look forward to the next issue.
Fred.

Pre-Decimal is alive and well here Fred. It just keeps getting moth balled by other nonsense in life :-) I read basically every post on here as it comes in, sometimes I comment if I've got something I feel worth saying. (Sometimes I post nonsense in the hope that Jeff and Pedro will read it). Get the cataracts done Fred! I had spontaneous ones in both eyes removed a fair way back now, along with 2 detached retinas fixed and my eyesight is fabulous. (Was always short sighted, but only wear reading glasses now). I have been going to pop you a message on here for a fair while, which I will still do when time permits. It's purely pre-decimal production related. (Melbourne Mint). I'm feeling that your knowledge on the subject may be beneficial in my research. (A pet project of about 8 years now).

Perhaps when I've completed my research it may be worthy of an article in the magazine. (Don't hold your breath though)

I hear you Uni  :D

Pedro

Picked up ACR 2,going well so far,interesting article on the history/background of ACR from Fred.
I can't remember it from the 1960's,i subscribed to Coin World back then,i also read the multitude of various books that appeared as we headed to Decimal Currency.I first started reading ACR in the 1980's,Greg McDonald was a regular contributer back then.

The article on Fanning Island during WW11 was also interesting,i read a similar article back in the 1960/70's,i'll try and find it.

Overall i enjoyed this issue but as already mentioned it needs more pre 1966 Australian Currency content.

Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='128053' dateline='1681439282'Perhaps when I've completed my research it may be worthy of an article in the magazine. (Don't hold your breath though)

And if ACR doesn't publish it then post it to the ACF coin wiki. Nothing has been posted there in 8+ years and needs reviving by us regulars

Further to my comment the other day above, regarding some research I'm doing into the Melbourne Mint (particularly die production / usage), I was just wondering if anyone has ever seen or had the extract from the Victorian Public Records Office:

DIES ; STOCK OF DIES

VPRS 10219/P0001

I'd really like to know what information is included in the extract, but their system doesn't give you much info at all.

It's all a bit of a lucky dip, but if someone has seen a copy previously they may recall what information it does contain. 

I've popped Fred a message as I thought he may have seen it.

I'm happy to order it if it contains what I want, just can't afford to waste $85 on a "hope" if I can help it.

Latest issue is out now.
An email notification would be nice.

Hi MrT and all.
Yep my May issue came in the mail on Friday.
Interesting stuff but no articles by that old geezer fred lever.
I'll have to stir him along a bit!

Fred.

Yes,get back to it Fred,same old compliant,not enough pre-Dec. articles,shame Ian McConnelly isn't with us, he had a pre-Dec article in every Month back in the early 2000's.

Crellin's article on the 1930 rang a bell,i had read about the Sydney Paper Boys on a retainer to find them and found the article on the W/end looking for something else,1984!!!.
I think the writer has his dates mixed up however,i;'m sure it was a Dealer that insigated it and it was post 1945.
When i have the time i'll have another go at finding the Newspaper article of the time.

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Hi Basil, good find.
I had submitted an article to ACR updating my 1930 penny information and part of that is a list appearances and mentions  of the coin over the years. I have listed 39 magazine references from  ACR, CAB etc.
Now we have number 40!
I simply missed it.

The ACR article may not be printed any time soon  as Andrew's article on that subject trumped me a bit.
Sometimes a coin article may take up to a year to be printed, or not at all!
Its up to the magazine editors to select what they think is best and as I am freelance and not on contract its pot luck sometimes.
I dont want to be contracted and have to meet dead lines, I did all that crap in my working life, never again.
I just type away, compose articles and send.
Rejection is part of writing.

I have had tech articles appear 2 years after writing usually based on a lab project of some sort.
I have to keep those tech projects on a workshop shelf  with a working file so I can re-fresh myself on what the hell it was, when the editors' questions start to come in!
Same with coin articles, a file on each article is backed up  in memory sometimes along with an album containing the actual coins featured so i can do a re-fresh.
Guys ask me questions about coins , honestly if i worked on the coin in question  more than a couple of months ago i'm blank!

Cheers, Fred.

Hi Fred..Crellin's article also trumped us,almost exactly the time line we were working on,i need access to the NSW NS newsletters to get some facts,may yet happen.

Fred you could rejig/revamp some of your old articles,new generation of readers from the early ones,not everyone is into obscure World Coins/Notes,as i posted before it seems in some cases the author is trying to show how much they know rather than write an informative article.
The same applies to the Mints 'popcorn' releases getting more space than they deserve but i guess its an advertisers thing..

June issue out,a couple of interesting articles from Fred.
As an aside on the 1926 penny mintage stats,a couple(more than 1) of researchers back in the 1960's stated they felt part of the Mintage were dated 1925.
No proof/evidence presented that i have seen but neverless its a possibility.
I'll try and find the original articles,not in Aust. Coin World magazines from back then,i went thru them the last couple of days.

On the subject of 1926 Penny die-cracks,CR article by Fred,the half also had a variety of die-cracks,not sure what the Mints were doing to cause this.

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That's in the post I'm guessing? Doesn't look like it's online yet, although a bunch of old CAB back issues are now.

Latest Australian Coin Review is out and Australasian Coin and Banknote Magazines back to May 2021 are available.

October Australian Coin Review is out now.
I haven't really been keeping track but it seems like mid-month is when it's released online. Is anyone getting it delivered?

The new publisher dismisses any feedback about this magazine which definitely needs improvement in many ways
I will not be resubscribing

I get my copy delivered and my November issue came a week ago

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='128672' dateline='1698686897'I get my copy delivered and my November issue came a week ago

Thanks,i'll check with the Newsagent tomorrow.

The November and December/January issues are now available online.

I bit the bullet and purchased a copy to read over the chrissy break. Usually only get the last edition of the year now. Got a bit of a surprise when I saw 2 pieces from my collection in articles in there.
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You're famous now G!!!!! :sun_bespectacled:

:laughingneqw:  Thanks Uni, autographs later :)

Nice coin, didn't consider getting it third party graded? ANACS or PCGS?

Nice! Yet to read mine.

Thanks :) Maybe one day I may send some again to be slabbed, but not at this stage.

February is out now.

Yes, they have printed my thoughts on the 1919/1920 penny dots being "mint marks".
See page 62.
I dont have the same belief as Mark Duff on that one!
Fred.

The April Australian Coin Review is out now.

Seems like mid-month is when they get released.

The May Australian Coin Review is out now.

June issue is out now.

The August issue is out now, as is the July.

September issue is online now. I saw it in a news agent a week ago.

March issue is online now and they have started sending emails to say so.

Latest Australian Coin Review is out.

Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='129941' dateline='1746079067'Latest Australian Coin Review is out.

Thanks,our local Newsagent doesn't carry them anymore,i'll have to subscibe again.

Ah, mine stopped a few years ago but a family member was able to help.

Then with the relaunch the online option became available.

You guys will note that Fred Lever is back in the latest October issue of ACR.
I was encouraged by the appeal in the September issue to contribute with the promise of payment "each time your article features".
For the last couple of years i have been concentrating on writing tech articles on electronics and left coins on the back burner.
That satisfies my accounts people who reckon if I'm going to waste time by writing there should be an upside to it.
Anyway, the new current mag editor has included some interesting articles from researchers, some to do with my favorite subject, pre decimal coins.

I have an apology to make to Mick Vort-Ronalds for lazily miss spelling his name page 73, though i did get it right on page 75.
Sorry Mick, all my fault, try not to do it again.
Mick was kind enough to email me and point out my shortcomings and rightly so.

In that same article some 'printers devil' has added the words 'National Payments Authority' before NPA on page 74.
No that's not an attempt at sarcastic humor by me, (although I did laugh like hell when I read it!) my original text just said 'NPA'
Someone else owns that one.

With the new magazine editor ACR should be a read for everybody.
You can email any comments on my articles to me, or even air them on this forum.

Cheers, Fred.

:good: Good to see you back at it Fred. Always look forward to your excellent contributions.

I have finally cancelled my subscription to the magazine Australian coin review, after a lot of years the April edition is my last
as you know the only way you can get the mag in hard copy is to subscribe, it is also available online but you still have to subscribe.
It was mainly full of stories I, personally had no interest in, I could read the entire mag in 15 minutes
Articles like, Letters to the editor are no longer published nor is what's wrong with this or what is this coin etc
 
  BUT there is a very good story about Counter struck, Mintmarks & Privy mark on one-dollar coins, the how & why they started plus a full comprehensive list

I can imagine that with the very high cost of printing that hard copies of this mag might disappear like so many various magazines over the last few years have
or maybe it will just be available online for a reduced subscription fee.
It's the end of an era for me, I used to look forward to its delivery every month then not so much

Hi interest, i can write coin articles.
Always looking for topics.
What sort of story would capture your interest?

Cheers, Fred.

I didn't mind the move to subscription only - while I did like the physical copy they do take up a bit of space.